How big a tug is the 'burgess factor'

[1970crow]

Seriously, the way people crap on about this guy being some kind of messiah. Where's the evidence? We're about as fit as every other side and we still play guys who clearly shouldn't play.

 

[Firewalker]

I reckon the Crows hierarchy attached their wagon to him and just believe everything he tells them no questions asked.

Also believe he played a part in the Nicks resigning as it wouldn’t surprise me if again the hierarchy believe given their friendship they are a package deal.

 

[Scorpus]

Physically we look like a team that is in round 20 gasping for the finish line

Look miles off the peak physical fitness and extreme ability to run out games the guy is supposedly known for

 

[spenze]

I think this is unfair, he has definitely made players fitter.

You only have to look at how many more marking contests ROB is getting to compared to 2021. Sure, he doesn't actually mark them and the opposition basically crumb of his concrete hands but that is one positive.

Also, you will find Lachie "leadership group" Murphy and Ben Keays

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0.4

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are able to get involved in more chains of play, I mean it's a turnover every time but if they weren't fitter, they'd never be able to get involved.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

We're running around like headless chooks faster and for longer than ever

 

[1970crow]

We're running around like headless chooks faster and for longer than ever

And with much more resilience.

 

[Crowboto]

No bigger or smaller a tug than anything else our loser club tugs about.

 

[Interloperer]

It's probably too early in the season to tell this year. So far Adelaide have had:

• One genuine comeback where they finished over the top of an opponent, albeit left way too late
• One relatively strong finish in a close'ish match against Geelong, but the opposition were able to withstand it and ice the game relatively early
• One strong start with basically nothing after half time. With the caveat that it was an away trip to Perth with multiple players suffering injuries in game

One thing that did get me thinking was a random aside from the commentary team from the second quarter game vs Geelong, to the effect that the Cats were working back harder than Adelaide were. Which made me wonder how much of Adelaide's strong finishes are an out and out fitness advantage, and how much is consciously saving energy in the first half to make a push later in the game. (I'm not saying this would inherently be a bad strategy. But it would be a departure from the rhetoric around Burgess)

 

[Geoffa32]

We were fitter than GC on a heavy track.


Defensive slow gameplan has more to do with looking slow and "unfit" other than actual fitness.






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[Billy_01]

He’s done an exceptional job. We had probably the lowest rate of soft tissues injuries last year and hes managed our older players as good as humanely possible, just look at Tex last year.

But if you’re expecting him to transform our players into super humans who overrun the opposition then thats your problem. No one overruns anyone, this is a league of professionals.

 

[cmndstab]

In terms of reducing our soft tissue injuries, he seems to have done a good job. Certainly better than the shitshow we had before.

In terms of fitness, who knows? Our game plan seems custom designed to minimise our energy expenditure, given nobody ahead of the ball ever seems to be moving to lead or to create space. We're not struggling to run matches out, but we're also barely running in the first place.

 

[Cap]

I thought our skills were the problem

Being fit doesn't stop you missing the 20m pass to a leading forward

 

[Sanders]

I think the problem is any advantage he may have conferred has been reduced as other teams got good people too

 

[spenze]

I'd still like to know how we have midfielders in their fourth season still building "midfield tanks" whilst other teams get these players up and running by the second pre season?

 

[Redleg Crow]

Fitness can’t overcome bad coaching

 

[Bovo]

I thought our skills were the problem

Being fit doesn't stop you missing the 20m pass to a leading forward

Actually I’d argue it does play a part. If you have a good fitness base you have the energy to deliver the ball a lot better than an unfit player.

 

[cmndstab]

I'd still like to know how we have midfielders in their fourth season still building "midfield tanks" whilst other teams get these players up and running by the second pre season?

Who are these players? Pedlar, Rachele, etc? Who knows whether they have "midfield tanks" or not... the club refuses to play them in the midfield for any period of time to find out!

 

[SugarShane]

Last year, and round 1 this year, we consistently ran out games better than opposition. It's just that when our fitness allows us to get close enough to win, our skills and mental weakness stop us.

 

[skittlebrew]

I recall Port and Melbourne supporters saying that it takes 2 or 3 years to reach physical fitness under Burgess then the following year everyone is cooked.