Hobart Stadium: $750 million cost

[Professor Knowall]

The latest (first 3 paragraphs included below) from the ABC. Unlike most of the ABC articles which have been generally sceptical or outright hostile to any new AFL stadium, this one is neutral, giving some facts rather than mere opinion -

New images of Hobart's proposed Macquarie Point stadium released

New images of Hobart's proposed stadium have been released, along with 800 pages of additional information following a request from the Tasmanian Planning Commission.

www.abc.net.au

More than 800 pages of additional information has been provided to the Tasmanian Planning Commission by the Macquarie Point Development Corporation, in response to a request for more information about the stadium project.

Among its various requests, which were made in November, the TPC had asked for more visualisations of the stadium's effects on the broader area, leading to Friday's release of new images that show how the proposed Macquarie Point stadium would look from the Hobart waterfront.

Three additional images, provided by consulting firm 'SLR', show how the stadium appears behind a row of heritage buildings on Hunter Street, and from Constitution Dock. …

 

[robo_1]

Oval stadia cost more, Australian labour costs more, and building materials cost more after the recent global inflation spike.

It’s funny how people and media obsess over the price tag of the stadium of 750 million plus blowouts but if the government just wasted that much in handouts and consultants and feasibility studies on wasteless projects no one would bat an eyelid. It’s only the media and some politicians who keep beating it up for their own gain

 

[Saucery]

‘Unworkable’: Fresh concerns for Tassie stadium as cricket, AFL left at odds over key element

‘Unworkable’: Fresh concerns for Tassie stadium as cricket, AFL left at odds over key element

www.foxsports.com.au

Does anyone know if it's CA or the ICC who are responsible for deciding if a venue is viable for international matches?

 

[Saucery]

Must admit I'm kind of worried that it will be difficult to attract enough specialist construction workers for the project, considering the QLD Olympic stadiums will suck up a lot of spare capacity (if there even is any).

 

[Mr north man]

Hey!!! North Melbourne might have something to say about that. It's taken them a decade of poor on field performance to earn that timeslot. They might not take kindly to having some upstarts muscling in on their gig. Tell the Devils to go and earn their own crappy timeslot

That said, if the AFL ever shifts the Grand Final to Sunday at 4 pm, North will have it in the bag.

Well got news for you once Tasmania come in they will get a better draw then North,Bulldogs and St.Kilda and will be well looked after.
As for Premierships iv seen 4 of them what about you with your club.

 

[jpmelb7]

Does anyone think North & Hawthorn would sell their home game against Tassie back to Tasmania? North have obviously signed W.A deal already. Perhaps after that? Would give Tasmania 13 games in home state.

 

[Speck]

Does anyone think North & Hawthorn would sell their home game against Tassie back to Tasmania? North have obviously signed W.A deal already. Perhaps after that? Would give Tasmania 13 games in home state.

I'm not sure Tassie will be flush with cash compared to the WA clubs. The priority for the government will be to spend money on the club rather than giving it to opposition clubs.

I can absolutely see a Tassie gather round incoming though. Especially if you've got the new stadium, Bellrieve and York Park to schedule games at.

 

[Ratdweller]

Well got news for you once Tasmania come in they will get a better draw then North,Bulldogs and St.Kilda and will be well looked after.
As for Premierships iv seen 4 of them what about you with your club.

Settle down mate, I was being satirical (which means that there is indeed an element of truth underpinning). My point is that the AFL do dole out awful timeslots to the smaller clubs, particularly when they are underperforming on the field, but when Collingwood, Essendon, Carlton, Richmond and Hawthorn have underperformed over the years since North won its last flag (1999) the AFL haven't given them crappy timeslots, in fact they hand them marquee games and premium broadcast free to air time slots. It is ordinary considering that since 1999 Carlton hasn't won a flag at all. Or to put another spin on it, consider that North Melbourne have won more Premierships in the last 50 years than Collingwood.

 

[Professor Knowall]

So now it looks like the new Hobart stadium is perking the interest of cricket authorities in England - in a good way -

British cricket authorities look to replicate Macquarie Point stadium design in Manchester

UK officials are ‘closely monitoring the developments’ in Hobart…

pulsetasmania.com.au

 

[Outtatym]

So now it looks like the new Hobart stadium is perking the interest of cricket authorities in England - in a good way -

British cricket authorities look to replicate Macquarie Point stadium design in Manchester

UK officials are ‘closely monitoring the developments’ in Hobart…

pulsetasmania.com.au

Considering they live in shit weather 90% of the year why haven't they done this years ago?

 

[jdisc]

Considering they live in shit weather 90% of the year why haven't they done this years ago?

it's a british tradition to be worse than other countries at doing the sports you invented

 

[Nepotism]

I can't believe England doesn't have a roofed cricket stadium.

 

[TheTassieHawk]

The TPC have apparently noted concerns with flow of attendees at the end of events, as well as stadium design and finance aspects

MSN

 

[Howard Littlejohn]

I'm not sure Tassie will be flush with cash compared to the WA clubs. The priority for the government will be to spend money on the club rather than giving it to opposition clubs.

I can absolutely see a Tassie gather round incoming though. Especially if you've got the new stadium, Bellrieve and York Park to schedule games at.

Was wondering if in such a small city there would be the requisite hotel rooms of necessary standard to host a gather round. But assuming six games in Hobart, probably. Three games in Lonny might struggle for enough 4star+ (guess AFL minimums) accommodation, so possibly a 7-2 split.
With players, coaching and support staff, umpires, media (those that bother to travel), club and league hangers-on, nine games might need to accommodate 1000 people before any fans turn up.

 

[Saucery]

Was wondering if in such a small city there would be the requisite hotel rooms of necessary standard to host a gather round. But assuming six games in Hobart, probably. Three games in Lonny might struggle for enough 4star+ (guess AFL minimums) accommodation, so possibly a 7-2 split.
With players, coaching and support staff, umpires, media (those that bother to travel), club and league hangers-on, nine games might need to accommodate 1000 people before any fans turn up.

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[Saucery]

So, the total cost including all of the other infrastructure has now gone from high 700,000 to 1.2 billion with all the necessary infrastructure changes to be made? Around 1hr average waiting to catch a bus after leaving a stadium that apparently needs a roof? No wonder they fought so hard to hide the truth.

 

[Howard Littlejohn]

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Well, the state is set up mostly to get political donations from the Federal Group.

 

[Aussie in exile]

So, the total cost including all of the other infrastructure has now gone from high 700,000 to 1.2 billion with all the necessary infrastructure changes to be made? Around 1hr average waiting to catch a bus after leaving a stadium that apparently needs a roof? No wonder they fought so hard to hide the truth.

These infrastructures rarely in ever are done within budget, and possibly the final figure will be above the 1.2 billion quoted.
The Tassie government are going to face some hard questions from the local taxpayers over this whole saga.