Analysis Hawks 2022 Hypothetical trades (read the pinned post)

[Strapping Young Lad]

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[HairyO]

You'd think it's us and Essendon best positioned, few days ago I'd have said no contest...

Hopefully Sam is a major attraction. Does anyone know if Bowes and Scrima are tight?

Essendon would use it on a quality half back flanker I assume.

 

[Big Hotdog]

Essendon would use it on a quality half back flanker I assume.

Not sure that joke is all that funny considering our list.

 

[hawkmang]

Your mate on twitter says he's going to Geelong.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Then Sam and Mark's number 1 priority is convincing Bowes there's a spot for him in our side.

Surely we offer picks then to make them want to take the deal - along with rolling out the gold trimmed red carpet for our new lord and savior Bowes.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Also add in the fact the scum haven’t announced Turd as coach yet ? Might sway things

Yze and Dordoro seen sitting with each other for large periods during todays NAB league, has set tongues wagging.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Surely we offer picks then to make them want to take the deal - along with rolling out the gold trimmed red carpet for our new lord and savior Bowes.

Its the convincing Bowes, not GC, that we need to do.

 

[Braidz]

This 7 + Bowes has our name written all over it. Hopefully The ex suns boys can get in his ear and nominate us. Can’t see why he wouldn’t get a run in our midfield

 

[HairyO]

Not sure that joke is all that funny considering our list.

Been adding midfielders and looking to add more midfielders ?

 

[TylerDurden]

Yze and Dordoro seen sitting with each other for large periods during todays NAB league, has set tongues wagging.

Correct. Hird was clearly the favourite a week ago, but it seems Yze maybe coming home with the wind.

 

[Hawk4life1990]

These hypothetical trades are done assuming that Adelaide give Pick 5 for Rankine.

Trade 1:

Hawks:
In: Pick 5, Pick 7, Bowes
Out: Pick 6, Future 2nd, Future 3rd

Suns:
In: Pick 6, Hawks future 2nd, Hawks future 3rd
Out: Pick 5, Pick 7, Bowes

Trade 2:

Hawks:
In: Pies future 2nd
Out: Mitchell

Pies:
In: Mitchell
Out: Future 2nd

Trade 3:

Hawks:
In: Meek, Pick 72
Out: Pick 50, Pick 61

Freo:
In: Pick 50, Pick 61
Out: Meek, Pick 72

Trade 1 - This way Suns still have a top 10 pick and they get Bowes off the books & future picks for their academy kids next year.

We get 2 top 10 picks potentially McKenzie/Clark & Humphries

Trade 2 - If Mitchell really does want to move on & Pies are keen, I think this is fair price for Mitchell

Trade 3 - Freo will likely want more but given the lack of game time he has had with 5-6 years on an AFL list, I think it's about right.

After trade/free agency period

Gain: Pick 5, Pick 7, Bowes, Meek, Amon, Pies future 2nd, Pick 72

Loss: Pick 6, Future 2nd, Future 3rd, Mitchell, Pick 50, Pick 61

Draft hand: Pick 5, Pick 7, Pick 24, Pick 72

Pick 5: McKenzie or Clark

Pick 7: Humphries

Pick 24: Best available player

Pick 72: F/S for Lawrence

Thoughts?

 

[RX Hawk]

The thing is they can’t pick and choose, if they are pushing him out and he decides I want to go to ‘x’ or I’m staying they simply have to work with that club

So the first job then is to convince Bowes that Hawks is the club that he has the best future.

 

[hardway]

If draft picks had dollar values , would pick 7 be worth 1.2 million?

 

[Iceman!]

So the first job then is to convince Bowes that Hawks is the club that he has the best future.

Yep if we can convince him to come to us we have all the bargaining power unless they are really happy to keep him, which sounds unlikely

 

[Braidz]

If draft picks had dollar values , would pick 7 be worth 1.2 million?

It’s worth whatever Gold Coast need to move on

 

[Hawkboy62]

Haven't been reading this thread fanatically the past few days so apologies if it has been mentioned but isn't it funny the AFL are finally okay with these salary dump deals and coincidentally it is the same year the Suns seem to be completely cooked cap wise?

Not this year, as they have the 650k that Rankine is walking away from. Next year they will have at least Anderson and Rowell as priority re-signings so pre-emptive salary dump deals on marginal players like Fiorini and Atkins.

Agree. Add to that Flanders on 500k (apparently?).

We could help them clear over one million in cap space, whilst adding two ready-made talents to our list AND adding another top ten pick.

I'd be happy to lose our 2022 and 2023 second rounders at a minimum.

We'd be mad not to.

Regarding Flanders they will want to keep him, as he and Hollands are next in line for midfield minutes, with Fiorini moving on. However if we took Atkins (still 3 x 500k) we would likely have a deal!

 

[MJA33]

Not this year, as they have the 650k that Rankine is walking away from. Next year they will have at least Anderson and Rowell as priority re-signings so pre-emptive salary dump deals on marginal players like Fiorini and Atkins.

Regarding Flanders they will want to keep him, as he and Hollands are next in line for midfield minutes, with Fiorini moving on. However if we took Atkins (still 3 x 500k) we would likely have a deal!

Atkins such bad list management

 

[Big Hotdog]

Been adding midfielders and looking to add more midfielders ?

We have a shit tin of HBFers ourselves

 

[HairyO]

We have a s**t tin of HBFers ourselves

We didnt use a bunch of 1st round picks on them. Only on Day. And most seem to want him moving in to the middle.

 

[Mrzohs]

Not this year, as they have the 650k that Rankine is walking away from. Next year they will have at least Anderson and Rowell as priority re-signings so pre-emptive salary dump deals on marginal players like Fiorini and Atkins.

Regarding Flanders they will want to keep him, as he and Hollands are next in line for midfield minutes, with Fiorini moving on. However if we took Atkins (still 3 x 500k) we would likely have a deal!

Is Rankine money not being used up on
JJ 3 years 650k...

 

[cryptor]

This probably isn't legal under the current rules. But I wonder if we aren't as keen on Bowes as Geelong are, and if Bowes himself is keen on Geelong if we could on-trade him (still paying all or part of his salary) in exchange for something from Geelong.

Basically, we get pick 7 from Gold Coast for freeing up their cap, and something else from Geelong for getting them a player they couldn't otherwise afford to acquire.

 

[perrdan86]

We have a s**t tin of HBFers ourselves

I think Bowes was getting ready to play more midfield before he had that injury. Also going by the fact he hit the scoresheet a bit in the VFL, i think he might have been playing more midfield time there?

 

[HairyO]

Is Rankine money not being used up on
JJ 3 years 650k...

Surely they just skip that trade. Total waste of money.

 

[Mrzohs]

Surely they just skip that trade. Total waste of money.

I would of thought so they have interest in Long from the saints as well.

 

[HairyO]

This probably isn't legal under the current rules. But I wonder if we aren't as keen on Bowes as Geelong are, and if Bowes himself is keen on Geelong if we could on-trade him (still paying all or part of his salary) in exchange for something from Geelong.

Basically, we get pick 7 from Gold Coast for freeing up their cap, and something else from Geelong for getting them a player they couldn't otherwise afford to acquire.

We help our mortal enemy and probable Premiership team ?

 

[Bugs1977]

This probably isn't legal under the current rules. But I wonder if we aren't as keen on Bowes as Geelong are, and if Bowes himself is keen on Geelong if we could on-trade him (still paying all or part of his salary) in exchange for something from Geelong.

Basically, we get pick 7 from Gold Coast for freeing up their cap, and something else from Geelong for getting them a player they couldn't otherwise afford to acquire.

Pretty sure a player can only be traded once with in a trade window. I assume all these by laws would be in the player / club agreement.