Rumour GFC 2022 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists PT2

[Pure_Ownage]

Know of any names that could be that KPD player?

I flagged ethan phillips from port melb a while ago (hes well known to all recruiters no secret there) and theres a couple of other state league options that id consider.

 

[Hinkley29]

Was Matt Rendell drunk on the radio today or is that how he normally carries on?

 

[TheMenz Gallery]

No it was better than that - he was on the backline - and Geel kicked another goal and he said something so the Nth Melb players in the vicinity heard it

AFL’s famous sledges: Shannon Byrnes reveals Andrew Mackie’s cheeky moment

Byrnes returns serve with Mackie moment

www.foxsports.com.au

Basically saying we don’t deserve 4 points as this is only a training drill

 

[Tristan34]

They have 33 and 43 but neither is good to us as we have too many picks and no list spots. We need to turn that pick into a future 2nd so we can then send our future 2nd out for bowes and 7 and do bruhn.

We could give 18 to Freo for 2 x fr2 picks... They need more currency for Jackson...

 

[tielgaz]

we need to do Gold Coast first. And then scramble for Bruhn if we must.

Trouble is if we have pick 7 the Pies and GWS will want more!

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Something like
18 for Bruhn and 44, values Bruhn at 31 under DVI

38 and 44 to someone like Richmond for 31

31 to Collingwood for Henry

I think 44 is going to go to bedford and 31 will go to gws in the hopper deal (and they wont do 18 for bruhn and 31 unless we are also sending a future 1st).

Collingwood wont do 31 for anyway they will want an early 20s pick at worst.

For eg (purely guessing)
If it was 48 and sav for 33 you might then be able to flip 33 and 38 to brisbane for 25.

Whether coll would then take 25 and 55 for henry im not sure still feels a bit light.

If we are going to do bruhn and henry while keeping our future 1st it would need to be something like that.

Wont be easy to do.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

We could give 18 to Freo for 2 x fr2 picks... They need more currency for Jackson...

Maybe but if they trade both future 2nds they cant trade their future 1st.

 

[catstragic]

I think Geel should keep him - 2023 wil be make or break for him

But in the games hes played - i really liked the energy/effort/enthusiam he brought to every contest he was involved in - and he looked like he concentrated when he played

You compare that to Narkle - polar opposite in those facets

Haven't heard anyone advocating shopping him out, more that he is going to find it tough to get game time given our probable depth (at least next year).

Would consider it a strong point in his favor if he backed himself to make it the 22 despite tough competition though.

 

[Jemaine]

Firstly all boards are feral, especially this time of the year.
You forgot to mention that a number of us are ok with 18. Not ecstatic but it's the best of a bad situation.
At the same time, we're happy to keep Ollie if Mackie wants to low ball us with pick 38. There is precedent for players being forced to stay and thriving (eg Papley). Even those who left eventually (T Kelly, Gibbs, Lobb) provided good service to their clubs before leaving.
The point is that it wouldn't be a disaster for us if Ollie stayed. It provides more time to build bonds with team mates, put his case forward for a regular spot in the seniors etc. If he still wants to leave next year, his value is likely to go up even further. Win win

You guys and the blokes from further down Hoddle Street are a different kind of feral though let's be honest. Also Henry will go to the draft, not sign a one year with you guys.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I think Geel should keep him - 2023 wil be make or break for him

But in the games hes played - i really liked the energy/effort/enthusiam he brought to every contest he was involved in - and he looked like he concentrated when he played

You compare that to Narkle - polar opposite in those facets

I agree and i would like to keep him for that reason but i could also understand why cooper wanted out if another club offers him more gametime.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I don't think he is worth more than what we let Lang go for.

He is miles better than darcy lang. Miles.

 

[Turbocat]

Trouble is if we have pick 7 the Pies and GWS will want more!

WE simply have to hold hard to having 7


but if we dont trade our fr2 to gc then we missout on 7 and Bowes. .

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Can understand Port being hopefully "pretty keen" on Sav.

They've had the likes of Trent McKenzie playing extremely undersized on Hawkins and other key forwards.

They have one big unit (Alir Alir) in defense, but they like to free him up to intercept.

I imagine they'd be keen on getting someone in that has the size to play on the big boy forwards... It's an obvious weakness of theirs.

I agree and sav for that reason would get regular games there. As much as id like to keep him i cant begrudge him wanting to go.

 

[tielgaz]

Something like
18 for Bruhn and 44, values Bruhn at 31 under DVI

38 and 44 to someone like Richmond for 31

31 to Collingwood for Henry

31 for Henry act going to get it done, he was pick 17 and shown heaps.

 

[Tony Barber]

Firstly all boards are feral, especially this time of the year.
You forgot to mention that a number of us are ok with 18. Not ecstatic but it's the best of a bad situation.
At the same time, we're happy to keep Ollie if Mackie wants to low ball us with pick 38. There is precedent for players being forced to stay and thriving (eg Papley). Even those who left eventually (T Kelly, Gibbs, Lobb) provided good service to their clubs before leaving.
The point is that it wouldn't be a disaster for us if Ollie stayed. It provides more time to build bonds with team mates, put his case forward for a regular spot in the seniors etc. If he still wants to leave next year, his value is likely to go up even further. Win win

Buddy, you can’t keep him.
He’s out of contract and just knocked back a one year extension.

It’s all over.

 

[you pick one]

Trouble is if we have pick 7 the Pies and GWS will want more!

Give more of that sort of trouble

 

[Grimoz]

So who would be interest in Copper Stephens and what would thay pay?

Tasmania....

 

[Turbocat]

I think 44 is going to go to bedford and 31 will go to gws in the hopper deal (and they wont do 18 for bruhn and 31 unless we are also sending a future 1st).

Collingwood wont do 31 for anyway they will want an early 20s pick at worst.

For eg (purely guessing)
If it was 48 and sav for 33 you might then be able to flip 33 and 38 to brisbane for 25.

Whether coll would then take 25 and 55 for henry im not sure still feels a bit light.

If we are going to do bruhn and henry while keeping our future 1st it would need to be something like that.

Wont be easy to do.

Trade 18 for Henry and just find a way to do Bruhn.

 

[Tony Barber]

Was something like "It's a shame we are playing this well and its only Nth Melb"

No. It was “do we still get 4 points for beating this mob or is it only two?”

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Trade 18 for Henry and just find a way to do Bruhn.

Yeah but then we are back to the old fr1 for henry fr2 for bowes cant do unless we bring in another fr2 (hello sav) or unless gws send back an fr2, issue.
I dont disagree on 18 as fair for henry though.

 

[foxdog50]

Btw guys, Matt Rendell basically confirmed on the call with me that he was full of it, that I was 'taking him too seriously and he was just being facetious' and that me saying it was just an opening gambit and referencing the Pick 8/Pick 30+ Clark opening trade negotiations last year, made a lot of sense.

Completely backtracked when called out lol, which suggests, as we all knew, that he's completely full of it

Can you get a copy of the audio... love to hear it

 

[Hvashera2]

Just what do you think is the correct value for him then ...considering he is OOC.


Jordan Clark was P15 and we got 22 ..with a slight change of futures. ... upgrade 4th round

Unlike many others I don't rely on precedent. Including the Jordan Clark case. Every case is different.
TBH 18 is fair with a swap of future 3rd rounders.
Being OOC is irrelevant too. Contracts run until 31 Oct and if Ollie wants to run out his contract he can run the gauntlet of the PSD. Plenty of clubs who have cap space to accommodate him. If he gets picked by West Coast, he'll truly understand what homesickness means.
It's also interesting that Geelong only value him at 38. Sends a message to Ollie that his preferred team don't really rate him after all.
It's also forgotten that Ollie actually enjoys being at the Pies. He just wants to be closer to home and play with his bro (both valid reasons).
The reality is that Geelong don't have to do anything - they don't really need Ollie. He's more valuable to us.
But unless Geelong come up with something else beyond 38, I doubt if Wright will budge on the first round demand.
BTW the whole "henry wasn't in the first 22" argument is a furphy. Ollie was good enough but his defensive pressure needed some work (which the coaches informed him about). And Ash Johnson was in better form anyway.

 

[Shadow89]

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Something went wrong right from the start but they stuck with you your phone was so muffled it was near impossible to understand what you were saying.They should have stopped you and cleared the line up but said you had been hanging on for a long time so continued.

Nah that wasn’t me, that was Tom before me who sounded like he was in a hostage situation, haha.
I was the one afterwards who let Rendell have it over his comments, and the other host was going on about the word ‘postulate’

 

[catempire]

Firstly all boards are feral, especially this time of the year.
You forgot to mention that a number of us are ok with 18. Not ecstatic but it's the best of a bad situation.
At the same time, we're happy to keep Ollie if Mackie wants to low ball us with pick 38. There is precedent for players being forced to stay and thriving (eg Papley). Even those who left eventually (T Kelly, Gibbs, Lobb) provided good service to their clubs before leaving.
The point is that it wouldn't be a disaster for us if Ollie stayed. It provides more time to build bonds with team mates, put his case forward for a regular spot in the seniors etc. If he still wants to leave next year, his value is likely to go up even further. Win win

The most remarkable thing in these situations is the club losing the player continues with the charade that keeping him is an option.

 

[Grimoz]

Lets just get the Henry trade done, to be honest im not fazed if we get Bruhn or not.