General MFC Discussion 2.0

[blitznu]

FOXSPORTS or whatever has 3 words for the round has us with 'Fitness needed now'. I don't see how its our fitness when we ran the furthest of any team this round and 30km further than last week. It all just comes down to dumb football for me.

 

[Cannon82]

FOXSPORTS or whatever has 3 words for the round has us with 'Fitness needed now'. I don't see how its our fitness when we ran the furthest of any team this round and 30km further than last week. It all just comes down to dumb football for me.

We ran 30 km further than last week and were beaten by 80? That's pretty impressive.

 

[blitznu]

We ran 30 km further than last week and were beaten by 80? That's pretty impressive.

Had the most i50s of any team this round also more tackles and i50 tackles than anybody. raining and all but mehhh just shows how bad our set ups are

 

[Topkent]

Remember when Goodwin made good in game coaching moves?
Surely at some point of the 73 inside 50s we could have thrown Hibberd or Jetta or Frost or Omac or Oliver deep forward for an extended period just to see if we could change something

 

[Dark Avenger]

We ran 30 km further than last week and were beaten by 80? That's pretty impressive.

Its been revealed that the players turned their GPS' on the way to the ground when they hit Werribee.

 

[PerfectFooty]

Remember when Goodwin made good in game coaching moves?
Surely at some point of the 73 inside 50s we could have thrown Hibberd or Jetta or Frost or Omac or Oliver deep forward for an extended period just to see if we could change something

Agree with the rest, but there's no way we could have taken our best mid out of the midfield when we were getting smashed in clearances and contested ball

 

[Topkent]

Agree with the rest, but there's no way we could have taken our best mid out of the midfield when we were getting smashed in clearances and contested ball

We had 73 inside 50s an 15 more clearances. Was probably the least of our problems

 

[TheCount]

We had 73 inside 50s an 15 more clearances. Was probably the least of our problems

It was our main problem in the first qrt tho ... and it would have been again if we took Oliver out of there.

 

[Topkent]

It was our main problem in the first qrt tho ... and it would have been again if we took Oliver out of there.

Nah that's crap, we have Jones, Viney, Brayshaw, Harmes and Petracca. If Oliver is our only option we may aswell give up

 

[Topkent]

I'm watching the Sunday footy show here an Nathan Brown just showed a package of our inside 50s being wasted. The whole package was almost all Brayshaw completely burning people.

 

[TheCount]

Nah that's crap, we have Jones, Viney, Brayshaw, Harmes and Petracca. If Oliver is our only option we may aswell give up

I never said he was our only option, but he was the one that swung the tide. Stands to reason if you take him out of there, it swings back

 

[Topkent]

I never said he was our only option, but he was the one that swung the tide. Stands to reason if you take him out of there, it swings back

He swung the tide in the 3rd quarter did he?

 

[TheCount]

He swung the tide in the 3rd quarter did he?

haha, I honestly don't care enough to continue the debate

 

[Topkent]

haha, I honestly don't care enough to continue the debate

The point of my post wasn't 'Oliver should have played forward'
It was at no point during the massive rush of inside 50s did we bother changing the mix of the forward set up

 

[TheCount]

The point of my post wasn't 'Oliver should have played forward'
It was at no point during the massive rush of inside 50s did we bother changing the mix of the forward set up

No questioning that ... You could maybe argue that it was the lack of runners thing, but we all know its just standard stubborn Goodwin refusing to change anything up.

Im similarly convinced that the direction is to bomb it to the top of the square at every chance ... otherwise I just can't figure out why Brayshaw and co continue to do it when its so plainly obvious that it isn't working.

 

[Demonkings]

Our team has no guts, so when we get behind we can’t come back. If the game is not being played on our terms we give into panic and can’t scrap our way back into the contest. It has happened twice in our last three games, prelim and Saturday, that absolute panic has set in across the team and fumbles and overrunning the ball becomes the norm. Good experienced players like Hibberd and Jetta make the ball look like a bar of soap, so what chance do kids like Sparrow have of staying composed?

When Hawkins handballed back to that kid for a goal and they showed Chris Scott with that goofy grin on his face, it cut me up. I’ve been thinking as to why, and I’m pretty sure it was because Scott showed in that moment a sort of disdain for us. Even though we beat them in an elimination final a few months ago, he knows we aren’t a good footy team because good footy teams don’t crumble like we did in the prelim and on Saturday night. Good teams show some guts and fight back into the contest. Draft picks and development coaches can’t give this to you, in the end there comes a time when the players need to really test their mettle and show composure under pressure. Until our players like Petracca and Brayshaw can show this composure under pressure, we will be far from a good football team. In many ways I think the hard yards and heavy lifting is just beginning for a lot of our players.

 

[rhaz]

I'm watching the Sunday footy show here an Nathan Brown just showed a package of our inside 50s being wasted. The whole package was almost all Brayshaw completely burning people.

Brayshaw was shithouse. 30+ touches of nothing. Being at the ground, the number of his kicks that went higher than they did longer was just ridiculous.

Having said that are we lacking spread from the contest, and therefore he lacks options? I think his natural instinct is to chuck in on the boot, but sometimes I think he has no other choice.

 

[Topkent]

Brayshaw was shithouse. 30+ touches of nothing. Being at the ground, the number of his kicks that went higher than they did longer was just ridiculous.

Having said that are we lacking spread from the contest, and therefore he lacks options? I think his natural instinct is to chuck in on the boot, but sometimes I think he has no other choice.

He doesn't even look, the highlights package pointed out some very dark short kicks he ignored every single time. He's one of the least composed midfielders I've ever seen. At least when Brent Moloney went long there was a season Robbo was getting on the end of all them.

 

[Tulip]

Nah that's crap, we have Jones, Viney, Brayshaw, Harmes and Petracca. If Oliver is our only option we may aswell give up

I agree. Jones is still a good inside mid. Throwing him in there more often should be encouraged, given Clarry is a good forward.

 

[Topkent]

I agree. Jones is still a good inside mid. Throwing him in there more often should be encouraged, given Clarry is a good forward.

Found some of the critisicm of his 'leadership' strange seeing as he is on the wing. What's he supposed to do? Come inside an leave his man free on the wing to win a contested ball? Then people would complain about the over crowding.

Your wingers are the last people responsible for changing a result that's why they are always the ones labelled as front runners. They literally rely on everyone else

 

[TheCount]

He doesn't even look, the highlights package pointed out some very dark short kicks he ignored every single time. He's one of the least composed midfielders I've ever seen. At least when Brent Moloney went long there was a season Robbo was getting on the end of all them.

I was going to ask that before ... is there at least options for him to go to short? It's hard to pick up on the coverage if he's blindly bombing it because it's his default kick, or if the forwards are just giving him nothing.

 

[Topkent]

I was going to ask that before ... is there at least options for him to go to short? It's hard to pick up on the coverage if he's blindly bombing it because it's his default kick, or if the forwards are just giving him nothing.

On the 5 occasions they showed there were teammates standing between 40-60m out with no one near them screaming at him an he belted it straight over their heads. One he had Oliver 10m infront of him alone calling for the handball an instead kicked to Melk 3 on 1.

Nathan Brown even said it wasn't supposed to be a dig at Brayshaw but he was in 5 of the 8 they showed

 

[00Stinger]

 

[schmuttt]

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I don’t get it.

 

[Topkent]

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I don't get it. Are you saying the players were on smack that's why they played bad?