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[faible]

Another bizarre one

Man and woman charged with murder, torture over death of man allegedly held on rural property for three days

Police have kept an active crime scene in Mount Mee, north of Brisbane, since Wednesday night, with divers and other specialist teams called in.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Kurve]

Another bizarre one

Man and woman charged with murder, torture over death of man allegedly held on rural property for three days

Police have kept an active crime scene in Mount Mee, north of Brisbane, since Wednesday night, with divers and other specialist teams called in.

www.abc.net.au

It's horrific, they found the victim half buried.

 

[faible]

It's horrific, they found the victim half buried.

Sounds a lot like they were torturing the victims, no idea why yet.

 

[Jatz]

Sounds a lot like they were torturing the victims, no idea why yet.

Victims? Was there more than one?

 

[faible]

Victims? Was there more than one?

Was on my phone, just a typo

 

[Kurve]

Sounds a lot like they were torturing the victims, no idea why yet.

With that kind of prolonged, extreme violence and the little information we have, I'll go with ice.

 

[jason_recliner]

Sad the organisers have screwed suppliers (seems typical for the industry) but at least there's some humorous aspects.

Gathering of the Goddesses festival director used company funds to pay her rent, liquidator alleges​

Musician, author and witch Fiona Horne flew from the USA to headline at the Victorian festival, presenting two workshops and a musical performance.

Ms Horne said she was promised a glamping tent but on arrival found "there were none", and she said she was instead offered the first aid room of the Scouts hall.

"I could not stay in the first aid room, so I rented an Airbnb as nearby as I could to the venue, which was expensive and paid out of my own pocket," Ms Horne said.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05...sses-festival-organiser-liquidation/103816968

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[SaintsSeptember]

Sad the organisers have screwed suppliers (seems typical for the industry) but at least there's some humorous aspects.

Gathering of the Goddesses festival director used company funds to pay her rent, liquidator alleges​

Musician, author and witch Fiona Horne flew from the USA to headline at the Victorian festival, presenting two workshops and a musical performance.

Ms Horne said she was promised a glamping tent but on arrival found "there were none", and she said she was instead offered the first aid room of the Scouts hall.

"I could not stay in the first aid room, so I rented an Airbnb as nearby as I could to the venue, which was expensive and paid out of my own pocket," Ms Horne said.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05...sses-festival-organiser-liquidation/103816968

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If they throw her into a pond will she float like a duck?

 

[jason_recliner]

Returned ISIS wife Mariam Raad pleads guilty to entering terrorist-controlled region​

A woman who returned to Australia from Syria in 2022 has pleaded guilty to willingly entering a region controlled by a terrorist organisation.

So-called ISIS bride Mariam Raad, 32, was arrested in January 2023 following a joint investigation between NSW Police and the Australian Federal Police.

She was charged with entering or remaining in an area controlled by the Islamic State group.

Raad, from Young in southern NSW, appeared via video link in Goulburn Local Court today wearing a maroon headscarf and black-rimmed glasses.

She did not speak during the brief proceedings.

Lawyers representing the Commonwealth and Raad told Magistrate Robert Rabbidge that a statement of facts had been agreed upon by both sides and a guilty plea had been entered.

The offence carries a maximum penalty of up to 10 years in prison.

Raad is on bail and will be sentenced in June.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-08/isis-bride-mariam-raad-pleads-guilty/103816332

Waste of scarce time and resources. Should have left her to rot in Syria.

 

[jason_recliner]

High Court rules director of national parks criminally liable for alleged sacred site violation at Kakadu's Gunlom Falls​

• The High Court has ruled Parks Australia's director of national parks can be held criminally liable under NT law for damaging a Kakadu sacred site.
• The case concerns allegations that a sacred men's site at Gunlom Falls was damaged by Parks Australia during construction of a walking track in 2019.
• The Aboriginal Areas Protection Authority will return to the NT Local Court to prosecute its original case against Parks Australia, seeking up to a $350,000 fine.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05...akadu-high-court-decision-on-appeal/103818866

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

High Court rules director of national parks criminally liable for alleged sacred site violation at Kakadu's Gunlom Falls​

• The High Court has ruled Parks Australia's director of national parks can be held criminally liable under NT law for damaging a Kakadu sacred site.
• The case concerns allegations that a sacred men's site at Gunlom Falls was damaged by Parks Australia during construction of a walking track in 2019.
• The Aboriginal Areas Protection Authority will return to the NT Local Court to prosecute its original case against Parks Australia, seeking up to a $350,000 fine.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05...akadu-high-court-decision-on-appeal/103818866

So the construction of the path constituted “damage”?

 

[jason_recliner]

So the construction of the path constituted “damage”?

"Disturbance" would be the technically correct term.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

"Disturbance" would be the technically correct term.

I predict that one day people are going to get tired of this kind of punitive hostility. Mostly, there’s no intent to disrespect a place, only improve it, and the “sacredness” is only revealed after the action is done.

 

[jason_recliner]

I predict that one day people are going to get tired of this kind of punitive hostility. Mostly, there’s no intent to disrespect a place, only improve it, and the “sacredness” is only revealed after the action is done.

It's difficult to comment on the magnitude of the damages sought as I don't understand the degree and severity (including permanence) of the unauthorised disturbance. Personally, I feel the consequences of unauthorised environmental disturbance in Australia, in general, are inadequate and should be made more severe. I was unaware, surprised, and pleased that a public servant can be held criminally responsible in this case. Should he be found guilty, I hope he will personally pay, not you and me.

 

[Rob R]

Returned ISIS wife Mariam Raad pleads guilty to entering terrorist-controlled region​

A woman who returned to Australia from Syria in 2022 has pleaded guilty to willingly entering a region controlled by a terrorist organisation.

So-called ISIS bride Mariam Raad, 32, was arrested in January 2023 following a joint investigation between NSW Police and the Australian Federal Police.

She was charged with entering or remaining in an area controlled by the Islamic State group.

Raad, from Young in southern NSW, appeared via video link in Goulburn Local Court today wearing a maroon headscarf and black-rimmed glasses.

She did not speak during the brief proceedings.

Lawyers representing the Commonwealth and Raad told Magistrate Robert Rabbidge that a statement of facts had been agreed upon by both sides and a guilty plea had been entered.

The offence carries a maximum penalty of up to 10 years in prison.

Raad is on bail and will be sentenced in June.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-08/isis-bride-mariam-raad-pleads-guilty/103816332

Waste of scarce time and resources. Should have left her to rot in Syria.

Pathetic maximum sentence, should be mandatory life in isolation for anyone supporting terrorists

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[CD Xbow]

Racheal Wake was stabbed 17 times and killed by her ex, Darren. He is asking for leniency because he was a clean skin and called the ambulance afterwards.

Man who stabbed ex-wife to death should be shown leniency, lawyer argues

A man who stabbed his ex-wife to death should be shown a "degree of leniency" in sentencing partly because ...

www.9news.com.au

I don't think he deserves leniency and I don't expect it to be given. He took the flick knife there and I believe the excuse it was a present for his daughter is pretty thin. The daughter witnessed the murder of her mother from the car.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Why has it taken so long to sentence him?

Anyone can say they’re remorseful.

Everyone is a “cleanskin” until they’re not.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Racheal Wake was stabbed 17 times and killed by her ex, Darren. He is asking for leniency because he was a clean skin and called the ambulance afterwards.

Man who stabbed ex-wife to death should be shown leniency, lawyer argues

A man who stabbed his ex-wife to death should be shown a "degree of leniency" in sentencing partly because ...

www.9news.com.au

I don't think he deserves leniency and I don't expect it to be given. He took the flick knife there and I believe the excuse it was a present for his daughter is pretty thin. The daughter witnessed the murder of her mother from the car.

I used to work with a guy who ( after i no longer worked with him or kept in touch ) had pulled a knife out of the kitchen drawer and fatally stabbed his wife in a fit of rage. I was pretty shocked to read about it.

From my time working with him, he was a guy that people could "press his buttons" and make him flare into a rage. For example i'd seen him throw heavy objects at people who had "stirred him up ".
From reading the crime , i worked out that was exactly what his wife had done. She'd incited him into rage ( not a defence but a reason ).
His children had called the ambulance, and when he tried to talk to emergency, he was so emotional and incomprehensible and crying so much, that they asked for the child to be put back on.

He rightfully got 17 years, but i don't think it was anything planned, and i think that as soon as he realised what he'd done he'd wished he could have undone it.

Anyway, the guy in the article above took a knife to the scene, and did it in cold blood. He probably doesn't regret a thing, he should get worse.

 

[CD Xbow]

I used to work with a guy who ( after i no longer worked with him or kept in touch ) had pulled a knife out of the kitchen drawer and fatally stabbed his wife in a fit of rage. I was pretty shocked to read about it.

From my time working with him, he was a guy that people could "press his buttons" and make him flare into a rage. For example i'd seen him throw heavy objects at people who had "stirred him up ".
From reading the crime , i worked out that was exactly what his wife had done. She'd incited him into rage ( not a defence but a reason ).
His children had called the ambulance, and when he tried to talk to emergency, he was so emotional and incomprehensible and crying so much, that they asked for the child to be put back on.

He rightfully got 17 years, but i don't think it was anything planned, and i think that as soon as he realised what he'd done he'd wished he could have undone it.

Anyway, the guy in the article above took a knife to the scene, and did it in cold blood. He probably doesn't regret a thing, he should get worse.

Terrible story. I agree, I think taking the knife suggests some premeditation rather than an act of spontaneous rage. I don't think it necessarily excludes regret, for what ever reason we all regret doing stupid things. I do worry that folks don't have a good understanding of the consequences of their actions nowadays, especially when they grow up in our virtual digital culture where you respawn after dying as much as you like in games or push the undo button to correct mistakes you make on the computer. There is no undo button in life - my rule #7 for a happy life.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Terrible story. I agree, I think taking the knife suggests some premeditation rather than an act of spontaneous rage. I don't think it necessarily excludes regret, for what ever reason we all regret doing stupid things. I do worry that folks don't have a good understanding of the consequences of their actions nowadays, especially when they grow up in our virtual digital culture where you respawn after dying as much as you like in games or push the undo button to correct mistakes you make on the computer. There is no undo button in life - my rule #7 for a happy life.

I wonder how many people take a knife or a gun, and start heading somewhere , with intent to kill, and then somewhere along the way think better of it and turn around.

 

[CD Xbow]

I wonder how many people take a knife or a gun, and start heading somewhere , with intent to kill, and then somewhere along the way think better of it and turn around.

I'm sure many do.
This is not exactly the same situation, but perhaps has some parallels. I was suicidally depressed a few ago and was going to throw myself under the number 48 tram in Bridge rd, in my state of mind at the time it seemed the easiest way to stop the pain. When the tram trundled up I didn't do it, thankfully. I'm certainly glad I didn't, I would never have got to meet all the nice folks on BF.

 

[jason_recliner]

Unbelievable!



Would be funny if it wasn't true.

 

[FTY1]

Terrible story. I agree, I think taking the knife suggests some premeditation rather than an act of spontaneous rage. I don't think it necessarily excludes regret, for what ever reason we all regret doing stupid things. I do worry that folks don't have a good understanding of the consequences of their actions nowadays, especially when they grow up in our virtual digital culture where you respawn after dying as much as you like in games or push the undo button to correct mistakes you make on the computer. There is no undo button in life - my rule #7 for a happy life.

In a domestic situation, I would say it is more likely to be spontaneous. Big Sharp knives are on a knife block on a bench. A relative was a magistrate and always said, don't have knives in places that are easy to get to. If someone gets angry, it is a readily available weapon with tragic consequences. He had seen a few cases with a lot of regrets.

 

[Irma]

In a domestic situation, I would say it is more likely to be spontaneous. Big Sharp knives are on a knife block on a bench. A relative was a magistrate and always said, don't have knives in places that are easy to get to. If someone gets angry, it is a readily available weapon with tragic consequences. He had seen a few cases with a lot of regrets.

Was told a similar thing years ago too, thankfully not for DV, but after there’d been a few local break-in’s - don’t ever have a knife block on the bench. If someone breaks in, you could be presenting them with a far better weapon than the one they brought with them.

 

[Pamcake1]

Disgusted would be too nice a word to describe on reading this:

Man known as ‘eunuch maker’ who streamed mutilations is jailed for life

Marius Gustavson, 46, was involved in procedures that were ‘little short of human butchery’, UK court heard

www.theguardian.com