Banter Geelong V Richmond - GO!

[Wosh]

In the interests of keeping your back and forth shite fights out of match threads so normal people can talk.

Keep it clean and above the shorts
Off topic rubbish clogging up match threads will be moved here, knock yourselves out.

 

[tiger_tough]

Hi guys.

 

[Username Anthony]

So we are on the same amount as you, then, except we beat Port Adelaide, who won a flag 3 years earlier

So what, one flag does not make a minor dynasty.

and Collingwood who won one a year earlier.

One flag does not make a minor dynasty, you know this. A minor dynasty is 4 flags (with no b2b) in 18 seasons.

5 flags in 14 seasons is your proper dynasty.

Remind me which dynasty teams Brisbane beat during their run, by the way.

None.

You beat Adelaide who hadn’t played a grand final in 20 years

And how long did we not play in one?

GWS who didn’t exist until 7 years prior

But they beat Collingwood at the MCG in a PF after Collingwood beat us the season before when we had the flu. If they could beat Collingwood, why not us?

and us

That's the one that was never in doubt I'll give you that.

 

[PhatBoy]

So what, one flag does not make a minor dynasty.

One flag does not make a minor dynasty, you know this. A minor dynasty is 4 flags (with no b2b) in 18 seasons.

5 flags in 14 seasons is your proper dynasty.

None.

And how long did we not play in one?

But they beat Collingwood at the MCG in a PF after Collingwood beat us the season before when we had the flu. If they could beat Collingwood, why not us?

That's the one that was never in doubt I'll give you that.

So in other words you had no point to make.

Well done again.

 

[FreddyTwoShoes]

So what, one flag does not make a minor dynasty.

One flag does not make a minor dynasty, you know this. A minor dynasty is 4 flags (with no b2b) in 18 seasons.

5 flags in 14 seasons is your proper dynasty.

None.

And how long did we not play in one?

But they beat Collingwood at the MCG in a PF after Collingwood beat us the season before when we had the flu. If they could beat Collingwood, why not us?

That's the one that was never in doubt I'll give you that.

“we had the flu”. Wahhhhhhh!

 

[Username Anthony]

Would've won the flag last year if it wasn't in place.

You mean if we didn't have injuries?

The Tigers dropping off was definitely nothing to do with Dusty, Reiwoldt, Cotchin, Lynch, Grimes, Edwards

we only needed one of those players to beat Sydney after they had already beaten the reigning premier at the 'G.

 

[Username Anthony]

“we had the flu”. Wahhhhhhh!

Remember, it's not an excuse, it's the reason.

 

[Username Anthony]

So in other words you had no point to make.

Well done again.

The point was Geelong never beat a dynasty team enroute to any flag. And if the AFL stepped in earlier and changed the father son rule before (not after) they allowed Geelong to draft a pick 1 with pick 41, you wouldn't even have 4 flags, but only 1, which wouldn't be a problem for Geelong supporters because they could still call it a dynasty, because you guys make finals regularly.

 

[PhatBoy]

The point was Geelong never beat a dynasty team enroute to any flag. And if the AFL stepped in earlier and changed the father son rule before (not after) they allowed Geelong to draft a pick 1 with pick 41, you wouldn't even have 4 flags, but only 1, which wouldn't be a problem for Geelong supporters because they could still call it a dynasty, because you guys make finals regularly.

Neither did the other sides.

You don’t consider the Cats a dynasty team so even Hawthorn’s 2008 and 2013 flag doesn’t count.


So literally none of the four best sides this century, dynasty or not, beat any dynasty sides on the way to a flag.

Wow, great chat.


Awww and what is this I see? Another excuse. Careful, they’ll be popping out the front of your lips if they retreat any further inside your sack.

 

[STPer18]

Joel Selwood's four flag Empire still causing a commotion?

 

[PhatBoy]

Joel Selwood's four flag Empire still causing a commotion?

Someone doesn’t like rules that all teams have access to: no big deal.

Richo’s decade and a half of failure as a father son caused a rule change and one fan is trying to deflect

 

[Username Anthony]

Someone doesn’t like rules that all teams have access to: no big deal.

You need father sons to have access to a rule the AFL changed (not me) because it was deemed unfair.

 

[PhatBoy]

You need father sons to have access to a rule the AFL changed (not me) because it was deemed unfair.

Your club has had a f**k tonne of them.

Not our fault they were all dogshit, bar one of them. Who’s teams were all dogshit.

 

[Username Anthony]

You don’t consider the Cats a dynasty team so even Hawthorn’s 2008 and 2013 flag doesn’t count.

You do though. You called Geelong a minor dynasty team when you said Richmond didn't go through any "dominant dynasty" enroute to their 3 flags.

Your club has had a f**k tonne of them.

How many of them would've went pick 1. Just remember the AFL changed the rule for a reason. And the reason is that it was deemed unfair, just like years later Richmond's system was deemed unfair for the competition. And I have no problem saying Richmond would've won no flags without our pressure based system and quick ball movement.

There is no "Selwood empire" if the AFL changed the unfair father son rule before and not after allowing Geelong to take pick 1 at pick 41, very lucky that the unfair rule wasn't changed earlier. I knew Tom Hawkins was going to go number 1 the season before he was picked, can't see how the AFL couldn't know that?

 

[PhatBoy]

You do though. You called Geelong a minor dynasty team when you said Richmond didn't go through any "dominant dynasty" enroute to their 3 flags.


How many of them would've went pick 1. Just remember the AFL changed the rule for a reason. And the reason is that it was deemed unfair, just like years later Richmond's system was deemed unfair for the competition. And I have no problem saying Richmond would've won no flags without our pressure based system and quick ball movement.

There is no "Selwood empire" if the AFL changed the unfair father son rule before and not after allowing Geelong to take pick 1 at pick 41, very lucky that the unfair rule wasn't changed earlier. I knew Tom Hawkins was going to go number 1 the season before he was picked, can't see how the AFL couldn't know that?

The unfair father son rule that every club has had access to except two clubs…. Who both have academies

It’s only unfair because your club didn’t have any good ones at the time. If Richo came along 15 years later you wouldn’t have a problem with it you sook. If your dozen father son selections over the last 30 years weren’t so garbage you wouldn’t care.

Guess what? If it wasn’t for one of the draft rules maybe we would have won the flag this year. Will Ashcroft had an excellent prelim final against us. Who the f**k cares. If we were better, we would have won.

You really must think Tom Hawkins was the best player of his generation if we were that reliant on him.

 

[FreddyTwoShoes]

Falcon/Cleany etc still has his knickers in a twist about father/sons and the stand rule.

And still wheeling out excuses - “we had injuries” “we had the flu”.

Nothing new under the sun.

 

[PhatBoy]

Falcon/Cleany etc still has his knickers in a twist about father/sons and the stand rule.

And still wheeling out excuses - “we had injuries” “we had the flu”.

Nothing new under the sun.

This is a different guy I’m pretty sure, I can’t remember his original name but he was a fan of the word emasculation.

He does share Falcon’s love of a good excuse though.

 

[Username Anthony]

It’s only unfair because your club didn’t have any good ones at the time.

It was unfair, that's why the AFL changed the rule, I already said that lol!

If Richo came along 15 years later you wouldn’t have a problem with it you sook.

It still would've been an unfair rule if other teams couldn't get a pick 1 with pick 41.

Guess what? If it wasn’t for one of the draft rules maybe we would have won the flag this year. Will Ashcroft had an excellent prelim final against us. Who the f**k cares. If we were better, we would have won.

Imagine the farher son rule was today what it was when you got pick 1 for pick 41?

You really must think Tom Hawkins was the best player of his generation if we were that reliant on him.

Hawkins was yours, it was Selwood you would've missed out on if the AFL didn't pretend they didn't know who Tom Hawkins was 2 years out from his draft year. So the rule could've been changed earlier if the AFL knew what unfair meant before the change, it's lucky for Geelong they didn't, or did they?

And lucky for Geelong that the stand rule prompted them to move the ball quicker, great coaching by the premiership coach Hocking there. Don't listen to lying Chris Scott when he said he figured out how to beat Richmond in 2021, if that were true then he told Hocking to change the rule?

 

[PhatBoy]

It was unfair, that's why the AFL changed the rule, I already said that lol!

It still would've been an unfair rule if other teams couldn't get a pick 1 with pick 41.

Imagine the farher son rule was today what it was when you got pick 1 for pick 41?

Hawkins was yours, it was Selwood you would've missed out on if the AFL didn't pretend they didn't know who Tom Hawkins was 2 years out from his draft year. So the rule could've been changed earlier if the AFL knew what unfair meant before the change, it's lucky for Geelong they didn't, or did they?

And lucky for Geelong that the stand rule prompted them to move the ball quicker, great coaching by the premiership coach Hocking there. Don't listen to lying Chris Scott when he said he figured out how to beat Richmond in 2021, if that were true then he told Hocking to change the rule?

The Selwood that 6 other clubs passed on because he had dodgy knees.

Yeah.

We know mate.

Make some more excuses and cry a bit harder

 

[Username Anthony]

This is a different guy I’m pretty sure, I can’t remember his original name but he was a fan of the word emasculation.

You can be sure.

I was the guy that called your kids half white because you're white. Then you told me to go f**k myself because you believe they're full blooded indigenous.

 

[PhatBoy]

You can be sure.

I was the guy that called your kids half white because you're white. Then you told me to go f**k myself because you believe they're full blooded indigenous.

I’ll tell it to you again. Go f**k yourself.

My kids are indigenous and if you start labelling them anything I’ll abuse the piss out of you on here to the point where you don’t come back under whatever alias you like, ban or not. There are things you don’t need to bring onto a forum about football.

 

[Username Anthony]

The Selwood that 6 other clubs passed on because he had dodgy knees.

But you don't get him at all if you don't get pick 1 with pick 41.

I’ll tell it to you again. Go f**k yourself.

That's unfair

My kids are indigenous and if you start labelling them anything I’ll abuse the piss out of you on here to the point where you don’t come back under whatever alias you like, ban or not. There are things you don’t need to bring onto a forum about football.

Just calm the f*** down ok. Obviously we talked about that on another thread, I just bring it here so you can be sure that I'm not Falcon/Cleansweep17.

Surely you can imagine how being called someone you're not would be a little frustrating?

 

[PhatBoy]

But you don't get him at all

That's unfair

Just calm the f*** down ok. Obviously we talked about that on another thread, I just bring it here so you can be sure that I'm not Falcon/Cleansweep17.

Surely you can imagine how being called someone you're not would be a little frustrating?

Yes but I actually know you aren’t those guys mentioned earlier. I remember you as I said just not your username.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

I’ll tell it to you again. Go f**k yourself.

My kids are indigenous and if you start labelling them anything I’ll abuse the piss out of you on here to the point where you don’t come back under whatever alias you like, ban or not. There are things you don’t need to bring onto a forum about football.

Agree with that but surely he came to know that information because you were happy to share it "on a forum about football?"

It seems a bit hypocritical or foolish of you to share the information & then become infuriated when somebody else mentions it so that you know who he is.

 

[tiger_tough]

This a banter or sooking thread?

 

[Noidnadroj]

The Selwood that 6 other clubs passed on because he had dodgy knees.

Yeah.

We know mate.

Make some more excuses and cry a bit harder

The father son rule of the day was a godsend for Geelong … but it was just the rules of the day.

Got G Ablett at 40… Bartel (7), Kelly (17) and Stevie J (24) came earlier in the same draft. Geelong would’ve offloaded 1 and maybe 2 of those picks for points in the modern system - he wasn’t going top-7 so would’ve kept the Bartel pick.

In 2004 got N Ablett at 48. Egan came at 62. That was Geelong’s last pick that would’ve been gobbled up in a point match on Ablett…. Egan CHB in AA team of 2007 I believe.

Then obviously Hawkins went 41 and was a unanimous pick-1, so wouldn’t have got Selwood.

So no Stevie J, M Egan or Selwood … and maybe no James Kelly in updated father-son rules….

What a great free kick for a dynasty … but just the rules of the day so good luck to them. Probably no dynasty without it though.


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