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You don't have to be fast enough to be a WC in your own right. You just have to be able to be up the near the front and in a position to be able to help with strategy. The perfect number 2 was Bottas at Mercedes. He was never going to win a title but was more often than not up the front and on occasion able to take advantage and win when Lewis didn't.

The help with strategy is overated. Max is helped by always being able to be on the right strategy for himself. All 3 of the other top teams are racing each other and taking points off each other. With Lando and Oscar they are racing each other into the first turn and always having to stop 1 car not on the optimal strategy as they are a lap late. It works perfectly for Max what they have, makes him look better when they are nowhere in the constructors as well, he would love it.
 
His wine makes him plenty of coin these days

That and his clothing lines and the enchante launch he's got plenty of projects and no shortage of money. As much as I'd love him to come back to the grid there's no reason for him to.
 
The help with strategy is overated. Max is helped by always being able to be on the right strategy for himself. All 3 of the other top teams are racing each other and taking points off each other. With Lando and Oscar they are racing each other into the first turn and always having to stop 1 car not on the optimal strategy as they are a lap late. It works perfectly for Max what they have, makes him look better when they are nowhere in the constructors as well, he would love it.

It's perfect for him but not for any of their staff who can't get their bonus money when the team doesn't win the constructors.
 

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Probably more interesting than the series as a whole TBH.

Had its moments but it was pretty disappointing
I enjoyed it but was decent, not brilliant
 
His wine makes him plenty of coin these days
Does it? Would love a link to anything that provides details on this. Grape suppliers. manufacturers etc.

AFAIK that's a term partnership with the Pernod Ricard group under the St Hugo Label. Have an interest in the wine industry and would love any intelligence on what his cut is (assume its a licence arrangement). My guess is that its a short lived thing but have no way of backing that up.
 
Does it? Would love a link to anything that provides details on this. Grape suppliers. manufacturers etc.

AFAIK that's a term partnership with the Pernod Ricard group under the St Hugo Label. Have an interest in the wine industry and would love any intelligence on what his cut is (assume its a licence arrangement). My guess is that its a short lived thing but have no way of backing that up.
I mean in the scheme of his career earnings it's probably not a large % but it would be more than enough to pay the bills.

The name of the top of his range escapes me but I know it's their highest seller to overseas visitors. My wife works in the industry, though not in the Barossa, but she does have enough contacts to find all that stuff out.
 
In the recent discussion about a suitable no2 to Verstappen at RB, you made the suggestion of Hulkenberg and happy eagle, who mentioned Bottas.

From my view reading the thread, the thing about a suitable no2 is that you have to be fast enough to win the WC in your own right. Fast enough so that the team can then manipulate qualifying/pit strategies, and maybe how they construct the car. It doesn't matter what RB do, they can't haul Perez' arse to the podium. Bottas was often has the worse of the pit strategies, which is forgotten about.

So when I read your "moneyball" suggestion of Hulk at RB, it tells me in a roundabout way you think he could be a WC. This is incredible considering how long his career is and having the indignifying record of most races without a win and podium.

I think there's quite a few drivers on the grid that in the perfect set of circumstances (car, a teammate that isn't one of the greatest of all time) that are fast enough to win a WC.

For Hulk to be Max's teammate, he only needs to be good enough to be close enough to Max, because this was a specific Red Bull related discussion and we all know that's all they care about. And I think he would have been the best available option prior to signing with Audi.

It would have to be an absolute freak of nature one off Jenson Button/Brawn-style season for Hulk to win a WC but he's definitely not rubbish. He's only had a couple of seasons where he's had a car capable of finishing on the podium let alone win a race.
 
The help with strategy is overated. Max is helped by always being able to be on the right strategy for himself. All 3 of the other top teams are racing each other and taking points off each other. With Lando and Oscar they are racing each other into the first turn and always having to stop 1 car not on the optimal strategy as they are a lap late. It works perfectly for Max what they have, makes him look better when they are nowhere in the constructors as well, he would love it.
They would prefer a second driver being closer to competitors though, because the second driver's strategy could be used to hold up other cars

they were able to use Perez for that a few times when he was close enough in 2021/22
 

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Does it? Would love a link to anything that provides details on this. Grape suppliers. manufacturers etc.

AFAIK that's a term partnership with the Pernod Ricard group under the St Hugo Label. Have an interest in the wine industry and would love any intelligence on what his cut is (assume its a licence arrangement). My guess is that its a short lived thing but have no way of backing that up.
Bottas more serious with Oliver's Taranga.

Decent drop to the Ihana wine from McLaren Vale Shiraz (2 different vineyards).
 
Valteri and Tiff are very involved with their wine and gin.

Wife and I were lucky enough to have a conversation with them in a Stirling bakery by chance.
Both here & in Finland too.

We went to his Australian Ihana opening last January.

Got talking to both afterwards as had parked next to them. Great couple. Think he enjoyed talking to the only Finns who came on the day.

Helps too that Corinna is a gun wine maker!
 
Both here & in Finland too.

We went to his Australian Ihana opening last January.

Got talking to both afterwards as had parked next to them. Great couple. Think he enjoyed talking to the only Finns who came on the day.

Helps too that Corinna is a gun wine maker!
They are, its funny that as an F1 driver and successful professional cyclist they can still walk around largely anonymous in this country.

Have only chatted to Corinna briefly but shes pretty friendly and down to earth, not a trait you see in a lot of winemakers in the Vale.
 
Mike krack said in an interview that there's not much difference between lance stroll and Fernando Alonso.

Surely he vomits in his mouth while saying these things

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Mike krack said in an interview that there's not much difference between lance stroll and Fernando Alonso.

Surely he vomits in his mouth while saying these things

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They both have two arms and two legs, ten fingers and ten toes. Both wear green overalls and drive Aston Martins. Both are Lawrence's favourite son.
 

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