Yes, you have to be fast enough to win a WC so you can "help" with strategy. You can't "help" with strategy otherwise.
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Was Bottas fast enough to win a world title ?
Nope
Yes. His results at Williams got him the MB job and he's got 20PP.
His qualifying record against Hamilton stacks up better than race results because there are less variables that can be manipulated by the pit. There was also a period he was referred to as "Mr Saturday" because of his qualifying results
We saw him cop the worse of pit calls and safety car intervention a 1000 times. But because mandatory stops and prolific use of the safety are accepted, the number of times he was stooged is not even considered.
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17 m for oscar. excluding advertising i guess. nice payday for webber too.
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That's no surprise. Even less than most F1 drivers he doesn't need the money. Unless he was going to a car at the very front like red bull (and that bridge is burned) there's no reason for him to come back to be in a squad at the lower end.
His wine makes him plenty of coin these days
The help with strategy is overated. Max is helped by always being able to be on the right strategy for himself. All 3 of the other top teams are racing each other and taking points off each other. With Lando and Oscar they are racing each other into the first turn and always having to stop 1 car not on the optimal strategy as they are a lap late. It works perfectly for Max what they have, makes him look better when they are nowhere in the constructors as well, he would love it.
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That and his clothing lines and the enchante launch he's got plenty of projects and no shortage of money. As much as I'd love him to come back to the grid there's no reason for him to.
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It's perfect for him but not for any of their staff who can't get their bonus money when the team doesn't win the constructors.
This was interesting,
Probably more interesting than the series as a whole TBH.
Had its moments but it was pretty disappointing
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I enjoyed it but was decent, not brilliant
Does it? Would love a link to anything that provides details on this. Grape suppliers. manufacturers etc.
AFAIK that's a term partnership with the Pernod Ricard group under the St Hugo Label. Have an interest in the wine industry and would love any intelligence on what his cut is (assume its a licence arrangement). My guess is that its a short lived thing but have no way of backing that up.
I mean in the scheme of his career earnings it's probably not a large % but it would be more than enough to pay the bills.
The name of the top of his range escapes me but I know it's their highest seller to overseas visitors. My wife works in the industry, though not in the Barossa, but she does have enough contacts to find all that stuff out.
He’s also an owner or part owner of a brewery here on La Côte d’Azur called Blue Coast Brewing.
Yup he'll be fine without optus
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I think there's quite a few drivers on the grid that in the perfect set of circumstances (car, a teammate that isn't one of the greatest of all time) that are fast enough to win a WC.
For Hulk to be Max's teammate, he only needs to be good enough to be close enough to Max, because this was a specific Red Bull related discussion and we all know that's all they care about. And I think he would have been the best available option prior to signing with Audi.
It would have to be an absolute freak of nature one off Jenson Button/Brawn-style season for Hulk to win a WC but he's definitely not rubbish. He's only had a couple of seasons where he's had a car capable of finishing on the podium let alone win a race.
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They would prefer a second driver being closer to competitors though, because the second driver's strategy could be used to hold up other cars
they were able to use Perez for that a few times when he was close enough in 2021/22
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Bottas more serious with Oliver's Taranga.
Decent drop to the Ihana wine from McLaren Vale Shiraz (2 different vineyards).
Valteri and Tiff are very involved with their wine and gin.
Wife and I were lucky enough to have a conversation with them in a Stirling bakery by chance.
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Both here & in Finland too.
We went to his Australian Ihana opening last January.
Got talking to both afterwards as had parked next to them. Great couple. Think he enjoyed talking to the only Finns who came on the day.
Helps too that Corinna is a gun wine maker!
They are, its funny that as an F1 driver and successful professional cyclist they can still walk around largely anonymous in this country.
Have only chatted to Corinna briefly but shes pretty friendly and down to earth, not a trait you see in a lot of winemakers in the Vale.
