Phantom Draft eth-dog's phantom 2024 edition

How many picks will I get right? (Note: Academy and FS correct bidding position)

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eth-dog said:
Right, as usual, I'll be doing a mugs version of a "true" phantom. I'm basing most off the 3 minute YouTube videos I've seen but actual people who watch games like eDPS, Smythe and Chris25. I'll try to knock the first round out tonight but don't expect rounds 2-4 until tomorrow morning to early arvo.

As I said, I'll be going for a true phantom with bid matching, but no live trading because it's gonna be bloody hard this year to keep track. Note that Brisbane probably in deficit within this draft but will almost certainly have live trades to get enough points not to go into deficit next year. Oh well, here goes! And yeah, feel free to use the below table if you want to have a crack at bid matching too.

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Round 1:

Pick 1. Richmond: Sam Lalor (GWV Rebels, 187 cm, Inside Midfielder/Medium Forward). Who goes 1? I went Lalor as in the past few weeks it's felt as if there's more and more people thinking it'll be the powerful mid/forward for Vic Country. Some are comparing him to Martin and I think the Tigers won't pass that up.

Pick 2. Brisbane: Levi Ashcroft (Sandringham Dragons, 179 cm, IM). North Melbourne bid pick 2, Brisbane match the 2013.6 with picks 27 (703), 34 (542), 42 (395) and 43 (378) and add a 4.4 point surplus. Brisbane probably live trade 27 at this point for more points but to win the flag and then secure arguably the best prospect of the year is great for the Lions, Levi will add to their forward rotation until he breaks into that midfield.

Pick 3. North Melbourne: Finn O'Sullivan (Oakleigh Chargers, 182 cm, IM). Smith or O'Sullivan? The pair make a deadly combination and I struggled to separate the two here so essentially went with my gut on who was going to be taken first of the pair.

Pick 4. Carlton: Jagga Smith (OC, 182 cm, IM). I honestly almost had him going at 1, but make no mistake, Smithnis a star of the future. His best is absolutely lethal and will likely impact for Carlton in round 1 if he ends up here.

Pick 5. Adelaide: Sid Draper (South Adelaide, 180 cm, IM). I know it's a bit cloche for Adelaide to take the SA product but he's also the best player available at this point in a position of need. Rumours of him not wanting to play for Adelaide are exaggerated apparently but they may cause the Crows to look elsewhere.

Pick 6. Melbourne: Josh Smillie (Eastern Ranges, 194 cm, IM). Where to go for Melbourne? They have some quality Young key forwards coming through, same with their defence. Given the tumultuous off season over Oliver and Petracca, adding a replacement could be wise.

Pick 7. Richmond: Alixzander Tauru (Bendigo Pioneers, 194 cm, Key Position Defender). I ummed and ahhed over this one a bit. I think Richmond have a really good chance at setting up their spine over the next couple of drafts and Tauru as someone who is primarily a defender but can go forward as well is a prime xandidate for them, and I don't think he gets past the Saints

Pick 8. Gold Coast: Leo Lombard (Burleigh Bombers, 178 cm, IM/SF). St. Kilda bid with pick 8, Gold Coast match 1240.8 points with picks 38 (465), 40 (429), 48 (302) and 58 (170) and gain a 125.2 point surplus. I think the Saints bid here because they need the midfielders to rise up the table and obviously Gold Coast traded out a raft of picks because of this guy so will definitely match.

Pick 9. Essendon: Isaac Kako (Calder Cannons, 175 cm, Small Forward). St Kilda bid with pick 9, Essendon match 1175.2 with picks 29 (653) and 32 (584) and gain a 61.8 point surplus. I think St Kilda bid here because everyone knows Essendon match. Kako is tailor made for the bombers, the best small forward in the draft. I do think Essendon likely trade 28 and 31 out for a F1 at this point to trade back into the draft at some point around pick 15-20 as the rest of their picks can match this.

Pick 10. St. Kilda: Xavier Lindsay (Gippsland Power, 183 cm, Outside Midfielder). Saints get a midfielder that has received multiple comparisons to Essendon captain Zach Merrett. St Kilda need to add class to the midfield and he's the classiest mid left.

Pick 11. St. Kilda: Luke Trainor (SD, 194 cm, KPD). I think St Kilda need some Young key defenders coming through and Trainor is probably the best of this draft class alongside Tauru, who they were probably be hoping for here.

Pick 12. Melbourne: Murphy Reid (SD, 180 cm, IM/SF). Reid and Langford was a genuine 50/50 at this point, Reid I simply think is the better player and adding the big bodied Amillie already makes me lean more Reid.

Pick 13. Richmond: Harvey Langford (Dandenong Stingrays, 190 cm, IM/MF). I almost pulled the trigger on Langford at pick 7 but thought he was more likely to last than Tauru for the Tigers. Langford adds height and power to the Rixhmond midfield and forward line and is probably the perfect rotational piece for Lalor.

Pick 14. Richmond: Harry Armstrong (SD, 195 cm, Key Position Forward). The best key forward of this class, I think taking Armstrong here is the obvious choice, he can take a mark, solid set shot and is the man for them in my opinion.

Pick 15. West Coast: Bo Allen (Peel Thunder, 191 cm, Half Back/IM). More class is needed off half back for the Eagles and Allen more than provides that, and he could well end up in the mids down the track too.

Pick 16. Port Adelaide: Matt Whitlock (Murray Bushrangers, 199 cm, Key Position Utility). Hard to say when Whitlock goes but I think Port really really need to bring in a key defender and that's honestly where I see Whitlock ending up.

Pick 17. Brisbane: Sam Marshall (SD, 185 cm, HB/OM). Fremantle bid with pick 17, Brisbane match 820 points with picks 44 (362), 54 (220), 59 (158) and their 4.4 Point surplus, go into a 75.6 point deficit for 2025. I think Freo bids because a classy half back who can impact straight away will help in their September push but Brisbane probably get a pick upgrade here to cocer off this small deficit.

Pick 18. Fremantle: Tobie Travaglia (Bendigo Pioneers, 187 cm, HB). Travaglia is the perfect guy for Freo as a half back who can run and carry and kick the ball really well, so I feel like if he lasts to this point he's not gonna get passed up here.

Pick 19. Greater Western Sydney: Tom Gross (OC, 181 cm, IM). The next mid off the ranks, and the area the Giants most need. Mids are really important for GWS, having lost Peatling without a direct replacement.

Pick 20. Greater Western Sydney: Hamish Davis (Claremont, 190 cm, MF/IM). Davis is an interesting one, he is very talented but is he a forward or mid? I lean forward but he could well end up as a very food mid.

Pick 21. Western Bulldogs: Joe Berry (MB, 180 cm, SF). Late? Yeah, but the only spot I honestly see him going earlier than this is the Tigers last brace of picks.

Pick 22. Richmond: Jobe Shanahan (BP, 194 cm, KPF). Jobe Shanahan can seriouslymplay, as shown by his 11 VFL games in 3 games. He and Armstrong could make a very dangerous combination in the future if it works out this way.

Pick 23. Sydney: Jack Whitlock (MB, 199 cm, KPF). I think this probably gets traded but Whitlock is a very good player and if they keep the pick, he'd be the right one to pick.

Pick 24. Richmond: Taj Hotton (SD, 182 cm, SF/IM). Hotton here allows the Tigers to somewhat replace Bolton but not as good, the kid can add a lot to their side if they haven't traded out.

Pick 25. Greater Western Sydney: Harrison Oliver (SD, 181 cm, HB). I think more class off half back is something they need to address, plus he's probably the best available at this pick too.

Pick 26. Sydney: Angus Clarke (Glenelg, 188 cm, HB). Again, I think this pick gets traded but Clarke adds some class off half back for the Swans.

Pick 27. Richmond: Alex Dodson (Sturt, 203 cm, Ruck). How do you cap it off? The best ruck in the class is a nice way to round out day 1 with two key forwards, a key defender and plenty of mids, this seemed the natural choice
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eth-dog said:
Right, as usual, I'll be doing a mugs version of a "true" phantom. I'm basing most off the 3 minute YouTube videos I've seen but actual people who watch games like eDPS, Smythe and Chris25. I'll try to knock the first round out tonight but don't expect rounds 2-4 until tomorrow morning to early arvo.

As I said, I'll be going for a true phantom with bid matching, but no live trading because it's gonna be bloody hard this year to keep track. Note that Brisbane probably in deficit within this draft but will almost certainly have live trades to get enough points not to go into deficit next year. Oh well, here goes! And yeah, feel free to use the below table if you want to have a crack at bid matching too.

View attachment 2145114


Round 1:

Pick 1. Richmond: Sam Lalor (GWV Rebels, 187 cm, Inside Midfielder/Medium Forward). Who goes 1? I went Lalor as in the past few weeks it's felt as if there's more and more people thinking it'll be the powerful mid/forward for Vic Country. Some are comparing him to Martin and I think the Tigers won't pass that up.

Pick 2. Brisbane: Levi Ashcroft (Sandringham Dragons, 179 cm, IM). North Melbourne bid pick 2, Brisbane match the 2013.6 with picks 27 (703), 34 (542), 42 (395) and 43 (378) and add a 4.4 point surplus. Brisbane probably live trade 27 at this point for more points but to win the flag and then secure arguably the best prospect of the year is great for the Lions, Levi will add to their forward rotation until he breaks into that midfield.

Pick 3. North Melbourne: Finn O'Sullivan (Oakleigh Chargers, 182 cm, IM). Smith or O'Sullivan? The pair make a deadly combination and I struggled to separate the two here so essentially went with my gut on who was going to be taken first of the pair.

Pick 4. Carlton: Jagga Smith (OC, 182 cm, IM). I honestly almost had him going at 1, but make no mistake, Smithnis a star of the future. His best is absolutely lethal and will likely impact for Carlton in round 1 if he ends up here.

Pick 5. Adelaide: Sid Draper (South Adelaide, 180 cm, IM). I know it's a bit cloche for Adelaide to take the SA product but he's also the best player available at this point in a position of need. Rumours of him not wanting to play for Adelaide are exaggerated apparently but they may cause the Crows to look elsewhere.

Pick 6. Melbourne: Josh Smillie (Eastern Ranges, 194 cm, IM). Where to go for Melbourne? They have some quality Young key forwards coming through, same with their defence. Given the tumultuous off season over Oliver and Petracca, adding a replacement could be wise.

Pick 7. Richmond: Alixzander Tauru (Bendigo Pioneers, 194 cm, Key Position Defender). I ummed and ahhed over this one a bit. I think Richmond have a really good chance at setting up their spine over the next couple of drafts and Tauru as someone who is primarily a defender but can go forward as well is a prime xandidate for them, and I don't think he gets past the Saints

Pick 8. Gold Coast: Leo Lombard (Burleigh Bombers, 178 cm, IM/SF). St. Kilda bid with pick 8, Gold Coast match 1240.8 points with picks 38 (465), 40 (429), 48 (302) and 58 (170) and gain a 125.2 point surplus. I think the Saints bid here because they need the midfielders to rise up the table and obviously Gold Coast traded out a raft of picks because of this guy so will definitely match.

Pick 9. Essendon: Isaac Kako (Calder Cannons, 175 cm, Small Forward). St Kilda bid with pick 9, Essendon match 1175.2 with picks 29 (653) and 32 (584) and gain a 61.8 point surplus. I think St Kilda bid here because everyone knows Essendon match. Kako is tailor made for the bombers, the best small forward in the draft. I do think Essendon likely trade 28 and 31 out for a F1 at this point to trade back into the draft at some point around pick 15-20 as the rest of their picks can match this.

Pick 10. St. Kilda: Xavier Lindsay (Gippsland Power, 183 cm, Outside Midfielder). Saints get a midfielder that has received multiple comparisons to Essendon captain Zach Merrett. St Kilda need to add class to the midfield and he's the classiest mid left.

Pick 11. St. Kilda: Luke Trainor (SD, 194 cm, KPD). I think St Kilda need some Young key defenders coming through and Trainor is probably the best of this draft class alongside Tauru, who they were probably be hoping for here.

Pick 12. Melbourne: Murphy Reid (SD, 180 cm, IM/SF). Reid and Langford was a genuine 50/50 at this point, Reid I simply think is the better player and adding the big bodied Amillie already makes me lean more Reid.

Pick 13. Richmond: Harvey Langford (Dandenong Stingrays, 190 cm, IM/MF). I almost pulled the trigger on Langford at pick 7 but thought he was more likely to last than Tauru for the Tigers. Langford adds height and power to the Rixhmond midfield and forward line and is probably the perfect rotational piece for Lalor.

Pick 14. Richmond: Harry Armstrong (SD, 195 cm, Key Position Forward). The best key forward of this class, I think taking Armstrong here is the obvious choice, he can take a mark, solid set shot and is the man for them in my opinion.

Pick 15. West Coast: Bo Allen (Peel Thunder, 191 cm, Half Back/IM). More class is needed off half back for the Eagles and Allen more than provides that, and he could well end up in the mids down the track too.

Pick 16. Port Adelaide: Matt Whitlock (Murray Bushrangers, 199 cm, Key Position Utility). Hard to say when Whitlock goes but I think Port really really need to bring in a key defender and that's honestly where I see Whitlock ending up.

Pick 17. Brisbane: Sam Marshall (SD, 185 cm, HB/OM). Fremantle bid with pick 17, Brisbane match 820 points with picks 44 (362), 54 (220), 59 (158) and their 4.4 Point surplus, go into a 75.6 point deficit for 2025. I think Freo bids because a classy half back who can impact straight away will help in their September push but Brisbane probably get a pick upgrade here to cocer off this small deficit.

Pick 18. Fremantle: Tobie Travaglia (Bendigo Pioneers, 187 cm, HB). Travaglia is the perfect guy for Freo as a half back who can run and carry and kick the ball really well, so I feel like if he lasts to this point he's not gonna get passed up here.

Pick 19. Greater Western Sydney: Tom Gross (OC, 181 cm, IM). The next mid off the ranks, and the area the Giants most need. Mids are really important for GWS, having lost Peatling without a direct replacement.

Pick 20. Greater Western Sydney: Hamish Davis (Claremont, 190 cm, MF/IM). Davis is an interesting one, he is very talented but is he a forward or mid? I lean forward but he could well end up as a very food mid.

Pick 21. Western Bulldogs: Joe Berry (MB, 180 cm, SF). Late? Yeah, but the only spot I honestly see him going earlier than this is the Tigers last brace of picks.

Pick 22. Richmond: Jobe Shanahan (BP, 194 cm, KPF). Jobe Shanahan can seriouslymplay, as shown by his 11 VFL games in 3 games. He and Armstrong could make a very dangerous combination in the future if it works out this way.

Pick 23. Sydney: Jack Whitlock (MB, 199 cm, KPF). I think this probably gets traded but Whitlock is a very good player and if they keep the pick, he'd be the right one to pick.

Pick 24. Richmond: Taj Hotton (SD, 182 cm, SF/IM). Hotton here allows the Tigers to somewhat replace Bolton but not as good, the kid can add a lot to their side if they haven't traded out.

Pick 25. Greater Western Sydney: Harrison Oliver (SD, 181 cm, HB). I think more class off half back is something they need to address, plus he's probably the best available at this pick too.

Pick 26. Sydney: Angus Clarke (Glenelg, 188 cm, HB). Again, I think this pick gets traded but Clarke adds some class off half back for the Swans.

Pick 27. Richmond: Alex Dodson (Sturt, 203 cm, Ruck). How do you cap it off? The best ruck in the class is a nice way to round out day 1 with two key forwards, a key defender and plenty of mids, this seemed the natural choice.
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tobt travaglia at 18 joe berry at 21 wow and wow
 
St Neil said:
St Kilda could not possibly pass on Langford and Reid.

I’d be bitterly disappointed if we drafted Lindsay and Trainor. Especially with Trainor’s history of concussions. As a club we’ve been burnt badly by this.

I’m really underwhelmed by our haul here.
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well considering pick 8 is drastic overs for losing Battle, it's probably not the best place to complain about who you take with that pick. shouldn't even have that pick.
 
danster168 said:
yeah and I said we didn't deserve it. nor did I complain. Refrain from using terms like 'glass houses' unless you actually know how to use it in the right context otherwise it just comes across as unintelligent.
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I used it in the perfect context champion - you said St Kilda "shouldn't even have that pick", despite being the undeserving recipients of a better free agency compo pick ten years ago. Guarantee I'm not the one coming across as unintelligent
 

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The last position we need is half back but a great effort I know how much work goes into it. Can't see langford sliding that much surely but it's nice to see other mocks a bit different.

If we keep the two picks and some want us to trade up some don't. If Langford is there at 13, I'd be at least asking the question.
 
sufficientintent said:
I used it in the perfect context champion - you said St Kilda "shouldn't even have that pick", despite being the undeserving recipients of a better free agency compo pick ten years ago. Guarantee I'm not the one coming across as unintelligent
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incorrect. Glass house implies that I can't handle criticism but was willing to dish it out. However, I was indeed critical of my own team getting that compensation for Frawley many years ago and that my friend is why you applied the saying incorrectly.

Further to that, I hadn't even replied to you yet. So the fact that you used the glass houses saying (which is typically used when eferencing someone's response) makes no sense as this was your first post to me.

If you were a draftee and you used this expression incorrectly, I'd be noting it down. 😉
 
danster168 said:
incorrect. Glass house implies that I can't handle criticism but was willing to dish it out. However, I was indeed critical of my own team getting that compensation for Frawley many years ago and that my friend is why you applied the saying incorrectly.

Further to that, I hadn't even replied to you yet. So the fact that you used the glass houses saying (which is typically used when eferencing someone's response) makes no sense as this was your first post to me.

If you were a draftee and you used this expression incorrectly, I'd be noting it down. 😉
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Then you would be incorrect.
 
danster168 said:
incorrect. Glass house implies that I can't handle criticism but was willing to dish it out. However, I was indeed critical of my own team getting that compensation for Frawley many years ago and that my friend is why you applied the saying incorrectly.

Further to that, I hadn't even replied to you yet. So the fact that you used the glass houses saying (which is typically used when eferencing someone's response) makes no sense as this was your first post to me.

If you were a draftee and you used this expression incorrectly, I'd be noting it down. 😉
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You come across as a bit of a twat
Questioning someone’s intelligence over the use of a phrase in a football forum 🤦‍♂️
 
hawkinoz said:
the trade would have to be done on Day 1, say around pick 8-10. So anyone trading for it won't know what talent is left at 28 or 31.

So unlikely they will trade overs, we sure won't. More likely our trade will be if someone we rate has slid to a teens pick and a club is willing to take Blues F1+ EaglesF4 in a deal involving F3 and the teens pick.

Can't do the above deal if F2 has traded, so only fair deals will be done and then maybe 28+33 may be offerred for teens picks to get a talent we rate.
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makes sense for Gold coast suns to trade back in after the Lombard bid chews up their picks.
Need Lombard bid on before Kako.
 
King Patty said:
makes sense for Gold coast suns to trade back in after the Lombard bid chews up their picks.
Need Lombard bid on before Kako.
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They have said they intend to get back into this draft same as Essendon and Geelong are also talking about that
along with North wanting to slide there will be a huge demand for picks #15-#25 imo
 
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