Essendon sign Mal Michael

[The Kipster]

Re: Essendon sign Mal Michaels

I think you're confusing footy with cricket.

IYO skilts......its a very bad scenario if people can do that...at worst he shouldn't be able to play until 08 simply because he had a contract for a year which he did not honour...

 

[The Kipster]

Re: Essendon sign Mal Michaels

Good to see the Hawthorn obsession with Essendon alive and well.

Good to see nothing has changed from the rorters of the system thats all...

 

[skilts]

Re: Essendon sign Mal Michaels

He is a dog.

Better than being a rat.

 

[loyallion]

Re: Essendon sign Mal Michaels

There's no legal document you twerp. It was cancelled by both parties. Are you seriously that thick?

Yeah and why did they Cancel that document? because they thought he had wanted to retire, which we all now know was a crock of ******** he just wanted to weasle out of our contract to join the bumbers I think the Lions have every right to be pissed off. oh and thanks for the attempted insult very 1980's dont you think?

 

[skilts]

Re: Essendon sign Mal Michaels

IYO skilts......its a very bad scenario if people can do that...at worst he shouldn't be able to play until 08 simply because he had a contract for a year which he did not honour...

Contract no longer exists.

 

[Corpuscles]

Re: Essendon sign Mal Michaels

Why? The club have already proved they are not going to come to the party and help him through this tough time. Why should he go back to the club that refused to show any flexibility at all?

Can you not even understand that part of the reason for the turn-around was that he gets a fresh start at a new club?

Brisbane supporters need to understand that their club and the way it's acted must shoulder a huge part of the reason this situation has happened.

This is not my arguement sorry to interupt, but I can see your side of it.

But the AFL needs to design some form of mediation or contract tribunal, in cases where parties who have contract can't get along. They simply cant allow players to fictiously retire even if it is done with absolute honest intentions at the time.

My earlier senario I put to you was way over the top , but if it happens to just one player from any club next year it will mean disaster!

 

[Father Jack]

Re: Essendon sign Mal Michaels

good on him. he was prepared to sit out, but a club approached him with a bit of flexibility, and away he goes. the lions could have kept him on the list, they knew he was keen to play on a modified routine. they should have realised someone else may have felt he was worth it.

 

[loyallion]

Re: Essendon sign Mal Michaels

You're hardly in a position to be critical of someone who changes his mind. You did it once, and ended up with a worse one.

Righto what ever makes you feel better about yourself buddy.........

 

[skilts]

Re: Essendon sign Mal Michaels

Yeah and why did they Cancel that document? because they thought he had wanted to retire, which we all now know was a crock of ******** he just wanted to weasle out of our contract to join the bumbers I think the Lions have every right to be pissed off.

The reason the document was cancelled is of no account. Fact is, it's an ex-document. It is deceased. It is dead. It had shuffled of this mortal coil.

 

[*Danni*]

Re: Essendon sign Mal Michaels

Intravenous Drips. The legislation did not say you couldn't use them. So we did. The legislation was changed, now you can't.

Tribunal. The legislation said Brown could not be penalised because it was 'outside play'. He got off. The legislation and tribunal system was changed, now you can be pinged for that.

Contracted players retiring. The legislation doesn't say you can't change your mind and go to another club. It doesn't say that you can either. Will it change? Personally I think it will.

 

[The Kipster]

Re: Essendon sign Mal Michaels

Contract no longer exists.

Which is a sneaky way of getting out of it, he should of been in trade week but Brisy didn't want him to go.....so unlike everyone else who operates within the system, he decides to rort it....I still think it is a bad way to do it...so in theory Spida could of retired at the end of 05 and played with Sydney in 06...its wrong..

 

[JLC]

Andy D was too worried about important issues like alternate strips to worry about things like this.

The fact is Mal Michael is a prick - pure and simple. He did the dirty on Collingwood and has now done it to the Lions.

jlc

 

[one_twelve112]

Re: Essendon sign Mal Michaels

Contract no longer exists.

What about a verbal contract?

 

[ant555]

Re: Essendon sign Mal Michaels

IYO skilts......its a very bad scenario if people can do that...at worst he shouldn't be able to play until 08 simply because he had a contract for a year which he did not honour...

Actually that worded very poorly. the problem here is not about honering contracts. The contract was voided by both parties. the problem is the reasons why it was voided.
The question that needs to be asked is what rules need to be in place as far as this senario goes. The problem is no can say either way exactly what happened. Do you punish a player who could have genuinly made a mistake in judgement ?
People are making judgments here with absolutely no evidence to back it up. If the legal system work on coincidence then a lot of innocent people would be in trouble if they where simply judged by others who have uninformed opinions and have made judgments without any knowledge of all the facts.
All this talk about spirit of the game, what about spirit of life and being innocent until proven guilty. Anyway i suggest that half of your opinion is based on your Essendon bias

 

[loyallion]

Re: Essendon sign Mal Michaels

Which is a sneaky way of getting out of it, he should of been in trade week but Brisy didn't want him to go.....so unlike everyone else who operates within the system, he decides to rort it....I still think it is a bad way to do it...so in theory Spida could of retired at the end of 05 and played with Sydney in 06...its wrong..

Well thats were you are wrong mate the lions didnt stop him from being traded it was infact Mal micheal himself who told the lions he didnt want to be involved in a trade. So was absolutly no reason for Mal micheal to be sneaky the way he was.

 

[ant555]

Re: Essendon sign Mal Michaels

Good to see nothing has changed from the rorters of the system thats all...

proof?

 

[The Kipster]

Spida could of done the same thing in 05.....Sydney talked to him then but we didn't want to trade him....exactly the same thing for Brisy...except he goes where he wants with nothing in return to the club that had a contract which he SIGNED...

 

[skilts]

Re: Essendon sign Mal Michaels

What about a verbal contract?

It's worth the paper it's written on.

 

[The Kipster]

Re: Essendon sign Mal Michaels

Well thats were you are wrong mate the lions didnt stop him from being traded it was infact Mal micheal himself who told the lions he didnt want to be involved in a trade. So was absolutly no reason for Mal micheal to be sneaky the way he was.

That makes it worse then...

 

[one_twelve112]

Re: Essendon sign Mal Michaels

It's worth the paper it's written on.

Incorrect - can be as binding as one written on paper
"In general, oral contracts are just as valid as written ones" - Wikipedia

 

[ant555]

Re: Essendon sign Mal Michaels

Yeah and why did they Cancel that document? because they thought he had wanted to retire, which we all now know was a crock of ******** he just wanted to weasle out of our contract to join the bumbers I think the Lions have every right to be pissed off. oh and thanks for the attempted insult very 1980's dont you think?

And you have absolute documented evidence that Essendon conspired with Micheal against Brisbane?
You really know for a fact that all of this us true?
Lets go back to the 1700's and hang them all just in case it is true

 

[loyallion]

Re: Essendon sign Mal Michaels

That makes it worse then...

Bloody oath it does I could sort of understand if he did this because the lions didnt want to trade him but to do it for no reason is just pathetic.

 

[skilts]

Re: Essendon sign Mal Michaels

Which is a sneaky way of getting out of it, he should of been in trade week but Brisy didn't want him to go.....so unlike everyone else who operates within the system, he decides to rort it....I still think it is a bad way to do it...so in theory Spida could of retired at the end of 05 and played with Sydney in 06...its wrong..

Being better-informed than us mere mortals, you'd have irrefutable proof of these monstrous assertions.

 

[The Kipster]

Re: Essendon sign Mal Michaels

Actually that worded very poorly. the problem here is not about honering contracts. The contract was voided by both parties. the problem is the reasons why it was voided.
The question that needs to be asked is what rules need to be in place as far as this senario goes. The problem is no can say either way exactly what happened. Do you punish a player who could have genuinly made a mistake in judgement ?
People are making judgments here with absolutely no evidence to back it up. If the legal system work on coincidence then a lot of innocent people would be in trouble if they where simply judged by others who have uninformed opinions and have made judgments without any knowledge of all the facts.
All this talk about spirit of the game, what about spirit of life and being innocent until proven guilty. Anyway i suggest that half of your opinion is based on your Essendon bias

Are you a Rhode Scholar are you, great grammur by yourseelf...no bias involved (though I do think you guy's stink)

No matter what tripe you write it is an incorrect way to go about it...

 

[loyallion]

Re: Essendon sign Mal Michaels

And you have absolute documented evidence that Essendon conspired with Micheal against Brisbane?
You really know for a fact that all of this us true?
Lets go back to the 1700's and hang them all just in case it is true

Who needs documents to prove it hes with Essendon now isnt he I mean if he wanted to retire he wouldnt be playing football would he.