Recruiting EFC Trade/Draft Talk II with F/A rules in OP - Billings for a fourth rounder the latest rumour

[Seagrave_Holmes]

Would there be any interest in someone like Lewis Taylor? OOC, good ball user, quick and knows how to kick a goal. Wouldn't look out of place on a HFF.

Zero hurt factor with his disposal, pass.

 

[TheFrenchCut]

Prestia is not worth a top 10 pick for a start - The discussion involves a package involving pick no 1 - My suggestion is to watch as much footy as possible - Looking solely at stat sheets only gives a guide.

Is there anyone you would be interested in acquiring yaco55?

I'm genuinely interested to know by the way, I'm not having a go or anything.

 

[Cristiano Ronaldo]

Bellchambers as a permanent forward would be Jake Carlisle 2.0
Take the odd good grab when the stars align but not do much else.

Thats was the issue I thought we had with the Ryder/TBC combo.

TBC is purely a ruck and not much of a forward

Ryder excels in both but wants to spend most of the game in the ruck... therefore pushing TBC forward for 80% of the game, just never seemed to work out

He's not going to play ahead of Leuey in the ruck. 2nd choice at best. But if he were to play in the best 22, it will have to be in the forward line for the most part. He'll only play if Hooker or Daniher are injured, as we can't carry him and Leuey in the same team.

 

[Paul_Barnard]

Is there anyone you would be interested in acquiring yaco55?

I'm genuinely interested to know by the way, I'm not having a go or anything.

There is a certain mystique associated to luring established names from other clubs which everyone gets caught up in (see Richmond's list management for the last 5 years).
The reality is that the draft is the best mechanism of acquiring talent and trading away pick 1 or 2 ( or pick 5 for that matter) is just madness given where the club is at..

 

[TheFrenchCut]

There is a certain mystique associated to luring established names from other clubs which everyone gets caught up in (see Richmond's list management for the last 5 years).
The reality is that the draft is the best mechanism of acquiring talent and trading away pick 1 or 2 ( or pick 5 for that matter) is just madness given where the club is at..

It is and it isn't. You can point to Richmond or you can point to Hawthorn and you get two very different results when it comes to the success of acquiring talent via trade/free agency.

FWIW, outside of somehow scoring a second KPF without breaking the bank, I'd be keen for us to hit the draft with our picks or to trade a pick or two for a few more quality ones.

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Bombers chief confident Hurley will stay

Essendon chief executive Xavier Campbell will meet with Michael Hurley’s management this week to continue negotiations that will hopefully lead to him staying with the club.

So far the Bombers have received commitments from five of the twelve players, including Dyson Heppell, currently banned for twelve months for their part in the supplements regime.

Recently there has been strong reports that Hurley is definitely not a guarantee to return to the Bombers in 2017 and that Richmond has offered him a lucrative five-year deal.

“I mean we’ve had some good discussions with Michael and his management,” said Campbell on SEN radio.

“We’re catching up again with his management later this week – it’s well known to us how important, the fans love Michael and his teammates love him and we’d love him at the football club.

“He is a big part of our future and a really important part of our list management strategy.

“So, I’d like to feel we’ll have those discussions and I’m quietly confident we’ll get to the position we need to get to.

“But this has been a complicated issue and it’s not something we have wanted to rush or we will rush at all.”

Despite most of the football community presuming that the twelve banned Bombers have been given the green light to ignore their current contracts if they wish to leave, Campbell does not believe that is the case.

“Well I’m not sure that’s true or accurate,” he said.

“I’m not sure that’s been a position that’s been made by the AFL at all.

“In many respects it’s a hypothetical and it’s something you don’t want to get to that position anyway.

“We want players that want to play for the football club.

“I don’t think they do (have a right to walk out on their contracts).”

However, he did concede that the club would not prevent a player from leaving via trade if they do not want to continue their career with the club that is partly responsible for the hefty costs they have endured because of the supplements saga.

“Well I don’t think we can, it’s been such a challenging and unique situation for the players,” said Campbell.

“I don’t think that’s going to be the case but I just don’t feel that we want to stand in the way or we should stand in the way.”

Read more at http://www.sen.com.au/news/05-16/bombers-chief-confident-hurley-will-stay#23SDVVrCMtG5QHvi.99

 

[WEEVZ]

It is and it isn't. You can point to Richmond or you can point to Hawthorn and you get two very different results when it comes to the success of acquiring talent via trade/free agency.

FWIW, outside of somehow scoring a second KPF without breaking the bank, I'd be keen for us to hit the draft with our picks or to trade a pick or two for a few more quality ones.

Very different scenarios as you say with Richmond and Hawthorn. Richmond being a bottom 10 side and only really targeting established guns (Treloar, and now supposedly Hurley) and they hadn't really drafted that well. Hawthorn on the other hand were already a top 8 side and have targeted players that fill specific holes in their list, and they've drafted fairly well.

As for the 2nd key forward problem (which we've had for far too long), would be good if we could find the next Gunston either through the draft or via trade.

 

[BomberFan36]

As for the 2nd key forward problem (which we've had for far too long), would be good if we could find the next Gunston either through the draft or via trade.

Already found him - his name is Langford.

 

[eth-dog]

Already found him - his name is Langford.

Langers isn't a key forward.

 

[BomberFan36]

Langers isn't a key forward.

Would you call Gunston a KPF?

EDIT: I am not suggesting Langford would be your typical KPF, but neither is Gunston. But what I am suggesting is Langford could play the role that Gunston plays.

Langford is listed at 191cm. Gunston at 193cm.

 

[eth-dog]

Would you call Gunston a KPF?

Yes, but Langers is different to Gunston anyhow.

 

[BomberFan36]

Yes, but Langers is different to Gunston anyhow.

What specifically is different to Langford, that explains why he could not play the Gunston type role? Does he not have the endurance of Gunston? Or does he not have the natural goal kicking ability of Gunston?

 

[eth-dog]

What specifically is different to Langford, that explains why he could not play the Gunston type role? Does he not have the endurance of Gunston? Or does he not have the natural goal kicking ability of Gunston?

He's more of a natural midfielder. His work in traffic is much better. I honestly don't see the Gunston comparison at all to Langford.

 

[MightyDons4]

Hm. So far I think I'd rather have Brown up forward still. We really need a FF/ruck who can play both and kick straight.

So, anybody for targeting Rory Lobb?

Let them keep Patton, doubt he wants to go anyway.

Rory Lobb is the guy we should be targeting.

 

[The Bomb]

Forget going after players who have shown glimpses but will cost an arm and leg to get, Lobb is the perfect example, lets just go to the draft and keep doing what has been working really well for us.

 

[MightyDons4]

Forget going after players who have shown glimpses but will cost an arm and leg to get, Lobb is the perfect example, lets just go to the draft and keep doing what has been working really well for us.

And what ruck/fwd do you suggest we grab in the draft? Ladhams is the only real viable option and even then it's a big stretch to say he will be a competent forward at AFL level.

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

What about Adam Tomlinson? can get a game in the seniors.

 

[The Bomb]

And what ruck/fwd do you suggest we grab in the draft? Ladhams is the only real viable option and even then it's a big stretch to say he will be a competent forward at AFL level.

I would take our picks to the draft and pick best available at this stage, it was only 3 years ago Dodoro had a decision to make and it was Lobb or Z Merrett, choose Merrett and both would have been excellent selections, but Zerrett has been nothing short of amazing.
next time he will probably lean towards the KPP / rucks, if their is not much between them. No point over paying for a Boyd, Patton or Lobb.
If we have Hurley, Hartley, Hooker, Daniher we are from desperate, just lets see how this years draft unfolds and the recruiters may see there is a better chance next year to recruit a tall.

 

[Yoda_]

He's more of a natural midfielder. His work in traffic is much better. I honestly don't see the Gunston comparison at all to Langford.

Langford is more of a natural midfielder than Gunston, in regards to his natural comparison to Gunston, it is the most apt of any KPF/2nd/3rd forward.

He is a workmanlike forward who relies on his marking and smarts to get into the right spots, his ability to hit targets moving forward and whilst his goal kicking ave. is no where near Gunston, he is probably the best 2nd key forward in the AFL right now.

 

[MightyDons4]

I would take our picks to the draft and pick best available at this stage, it was only 3 years ago Dodoro had a decision to make and it was Lobb or Z Merrett, choose Merrett and both would have been excellent selections, but Zerrett has been nothing short of amazing.
next time he will probably lean towards the KPP / rucks, if their is not much between them. No point over paying for a Boyd, Patton or Lobb.
If we have Hurley, Hartley, Hooker, Daniher we are from desperate, just lets see how this years draft unfolds and the recruiters may see there is a better chance next year to recruit a tall.

I'm just saying that Lobb is a very unique player that is exactly what we need in our forward line. How many other competent FF/rucks are their in the competition? Tippett is one off the top of my head, but his age and wage doesn't suit us.

 

[MightyDons4]

He's more of a natural midfielder. His work in traffic is much better. I honestly don't see the Gunston comparison at all to Langford.

Was very similar when play as a deep forward in his junior career.

 

[The Bomb]

I'm just saying that Lobb is a very unique player that is exactly what we need in our forward line. How many other competent FF/rucks are their in the competition? Tippett is one off the top of my head, but his age and wage doesn't suit us.

I just don't want our club to over pay for any player, much like Collingwood has done for Adams (Shaw) & the Treloar trade, they gave GWS pick 7 (Hooper) and this years 1st round pick which is likely a top 5 pick (SPS or Brodie for example), GWS tore the Bulldogs a new one with the Boyd trade. If we want another KPP lets hit the draft and draft some, like where we have got Hooker, Hurley, Daniher, Hartley, Ryder, Carlisle for example, Draft has worked in the past lets keep doing what we do well.

Dodoro and his team have improved out of sight the last few seasons, lets see them pick the eyes out of another draft.

 

[Duckworth]

I just don't want our club to over pay for any player, much like Collingwood has done for Adams (Shaw) & the Treloar trade, they gave GWS pick 7 (Hooper) and this years 1st round pick which is likely a top 5 pick (SPS or Brodie for example), GWS tore the Bulldogs a new one with the Boyd trade. If we want another KPP lets hit the draft and draft some, like where we have got Hooker, Hurley, Daniher, Hartley, Ryder, Carlisle for example, Draft has worked in the past lets keep doing what we do well.

Dodoro and his team have improved out of sight the last few seasons, lets see them pick the eyes out of another draft.

Agree, this has to be the strategy at least until we are ready to challenge.

 

[MightyDons4]

I just don't want our club to over pay for any player, much like Collingwood has done for Treloar, they gave GWS pick 7 (Hooper) and this years 1st round pick which is likely a top 5 pick (SPS or Brodie for example), if we want another KPP lets hit the draft and draft some, like where we have got Hooker, Hurley, Daniher, Hartley, Ryder, Carlisle for example, Draft has worked in the past lets keep doing what we do well.

Dodoro and his team have improved out of sight the last few seasons, lets see them pick the eyes out of another draft.

Collingwood had a deep and solid midfield, they didn't need Treloar. We have Hooker (gun KPF, can't ruck though), TBC (injury has cooked him) and Mckernan (looks lost when forward). At the very least I'd be inquiring about Lobb. Hopper was academy so GWS were getting him anyway, he was a top 3/4 player in the draft anyway IMO.

In this years draft there's only one KPF I'm confident in making the grade. The rest have too many ifs and maybes. All my opinion of course.

I think that the players coming through at underage level have improved and are more ready for AFL football rather than the recruiters getting better. They still look for the same specific traits and character in all draftees, with the only thing that's really changed is an increased emphasis on height.

 

[scanlon]

Would take a really good deal to get Lobb. Cant see GWS letting him go at all