Moved Thread Eddie Betts vs Izak Rankine

[Cleric]

Izak Rankine vs Eddie Betts is an interesting comparison as they both share similar traits, both have freakish skills, and both have played for the Crows.

Eddie's career has finished and he has left a legacy of highlights for two teams, and I think it's interesting to compare the pair at their same age, and then guess who will have the more amazing career at the end of it.

Izak at 24 years
83 games
8.81 kicks
2.88 marks
5.4 handballs
14.22 disposals
1.47 goals
2.67 tackles
1.88 clearances
7.33.contested possessions

Eddie Betts Total Career
7.46 kicks
4.55 handballs
12.01 disposals
2.83 marks
1.83 goals
3.00 tackles
1.14 clearances
6.23 contested possessions

For me I see it this way.
Speed = Rankine
Ability to go into the midfield = Rankine
Freakish goals = Eddie
Forward Pressure = Eddie
Skills in open play = Rankine
Skills in a phone box = Eddie

They are very similar to each other stat wise, and the interesting thing is that Eddie played his best football after the age of 27 at Adelaide, while Rankine is still only 24 going on 25 at the start of the season.

izak was the far higher rated junior, taken at pick 5 in a strong draft, while Eddie was taken in the pre season draft. He was the youngest player to ever play senior SANFL football, and his U18 Nationals were a stand out, single-handedly destroying Vic metro. I remember the Vic Metro coach interviewed at half time and asked about him and he just shook his head in amazement.

Eddie wasted a bit of his early career at Carlton where he got involved with the knob brigade and could have achieved alot more there if he of put all in.

As a Jr Izak idolised Eddie.

 

[Mr Meow]

By the end of his career, won't Rankine's total midfield/forward minutes fall somewhere between a Gary Ablett Junior, Dustin Martin, Brent Harvey, Brad Johnson, Paul Chapman and Steve Johnson?

Those seem like better comparisons rather than Eddie Betts, Steven Milne, Leuke Breust, Jeff Farmer type careers.

Thread seems at least 3 seasons too early. If he has 3 monster years then we'll have an indication he could be set to match or surpass some of those careers.

 

[bradfisher14]

 

[Jeremias]

Yikes.

 

[Chism]

Bay 13 crap.

 

[Cleric]

By the end of his career, won't Rankine's total midfield/forward minutes fall somewhere between a Gary Ablett Junior, Dustin Martin, Brent Harvey, Brad Johnson, Paul Chapman and Steve Johnson?

Those seem like better comparisons rather than Eddie Betts, Steven Milne, Leuke Breust, Jeff Farmer type careers.

Thread seems at least 3 seasons too early. If he has 3 monster years then we'll have an indication he could be set to match or surpass some of those careers.

Sure, but it's always interesting to take a guess about how players will go in the future.

With regards to the midfield time, as we have a heap more mids in our team now, there might not be as much need for him in the guts. We have speed with Cummings, Peatling and Draper.

 

[Cleric]

Bay 13 crap.

That's a wild take.

 

[Chism]

That's a wild take.

You know exactly what you are doing.

Hey lets start a thread that is a secret hate on another team. Eddies form was way better as a Blue than a Crow.

But lets not let the truth get in the way of a decent troll thread targeting a particular team.

 

[Bianconeri]

Eddies form was way better as a Blue than a Crow.

3 all Australians as a crow and none as a blue say otherwise.

 

[Mr Meow]

Sure, but it's always interesting to take a guess about how players will go in the future.

With regards to the midfield time, as we have a heap more mids in our team now, there might not be as much need for him in the guts. We have speed with Cummings, Peatling and Draper.

Okay if you have to take a guess, I'll let you guess which careers from ALL of the names I listed (both lists), that Rankine will match or surpass.

 

[Jeremias]

3 all Australians as a crow and none as a blue say otherwise.

Do you usually hold the opinions of the likes of Kane Cornes, Luke Darcy and Gill McLachlan et al in such high esteem?

 

[Bianconeri]

Do you usually hold the opinions of the likes of Kane Cornes, Luke Darcy and Gill McLachlan et al in such high esteem?

No, I hold the opinions of random bigfooty posters higher.

 

[Jeremias]

No, I hold the opinions of random bigfooty posters higher.

Which makes the reference to a vote from those luminaries even more bizarre.

 

[Seattle Mariners]

I think Betts has the better year of the two.

 

[Bianconeri]

Which makes the reference to a vote from those luminaries even more bizarre.

Real bizarre indeed.

 

[Sttew]

Izak Rankine vs Eddie Betts is an interesting comparison as they both share similar traits, both have freakish skills, and both have played for the Crows.

Eddie's career has finished and he has left a legacy of highlights for two teams, and I think it's interesting to compare the pair at their same age, and then guess who will have the more amazing career at the end of it.

Izak at 24 years
83 games
8.81 kicks
2.88 marks
5.4 handballs
14.22 disposals
1.47 goals
2.67 tackles
1.88 clearances
7.33.contested possessions

Eddie Betts Total Career
7.46 kicks
4.55 handballs
12.01 disposals
2.83 marks
1.83 goals
3.00 tackles
1.14 clearances
6.23 contested possessions

For me I see it this way.
Speed = Rankine
Ability to go into the midfield = Rankine
Freakish goals = Eddie
Forward Pressure = Eddie
Skills in open play = Rankine
Skills in a phone box = Eddie

They are very similar to each other stat wise, and the interesting thing is that Eddie played his best football after the age of 27 at Adelaide, while Rankine is still only 24 going on 25 at the start of the season.

izak was the far higher rated junior, taken at pick 5 in a strong draft, while Eddie was taken in the pre season draft. He was the youngest player to ever play senior SANFL football, and his U18 Nationals were a stand out, single-handedly destroying Vic metro. I remember the Vic Metro coach interviewed at half time and asked about him and he just shook his head in amazement.

Eddie wasted a bit of his early career at Carlton where he got involved with the knob brigade and could have achieved alot more there if he of put all in.

As a Jr Izak idolised Eddie.

Longevity = Eddie
Baggy shorts = Eddie
Crowd pull = Eddie

 

[Mr Meow]

Longevity = Eddie
Baggy shorts = Eddie
Crowd pull = Eddie

Goals, goal assists, score involvements, All Australian selections, flair, memories.

Rankine is a very good talent who Crows supporters are rightly excited by.

Just a weird way to project that excitement IMO.

 

[Cleric]

You know exactly what you are doing.

Hey lets start a thread that is a secret hate on another team. Eddies form was way better as a Blue than a Crow.

But lets not let the truth get in the way of a decent troll thread targeting a particular team.

Hate for another team? That's what you took from that.
What part upset you? Do you disagree that his form was better at Adelaide? He was three times AA at Adelaide. He was four times Adelaide leading goal kicker, yet only two times for Carlton. Three times goal of the year winner at Adelaide, once at Carlton.
Everyone knows he had a better career at Adelaide.

It's also well known that he didn't get the best out of himself at Carlton, and there was off field issues such as the Vegas incident and being involved in the party culture alongside others such as Mitch Robinson, Yarren and Garlett.

This isn't against Carlton, but rather an explanation of why Eddie didn't get the same out of himself when he was at Carlton.
It's on Eddie not getting the best out of himself when he was at Carlton.
Carlton did the right thing to get rid of the party culture, sending Garlett, Yarren and Robinson away, and not matching the FA offer Adelaide made for him, even with Eddie wanting to stay for less than Adelaide offered. He would have stayed for 40k more than their offer was. Speaking to someone who is quite in at the club, Eddie begged them to up their offer, and he cried when he left.

I'm not sure why you are so defensive over it
I think its fine to add some context around why he had a better career at Adelaide, and the reason for doing so to point out that his career would have been even more outstanding if he had of had a better attitude at Carlton.

 

[gungho]

Betts is a living legend. Let's hold off on comparisons for at least another 5-10 years.

 

[Slime Roy]

In the words of The Best Analyst in the Business, Rankine has the ability to be the best player in the game, but his durability may keep him from getting there. Fingers crossed for what's to come.

 

[Melvin]

In the words of The Best Analyst in the Business, Rankine has the ability to be the best player in the game, but his durability may keep him from getting there. Fingers crossed for what's to come.

I don't remember saying this

 

[Slime Roy]

I don't remember saying this

I didn't say "in the bleachers"

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

I think Kako from Essendon could be the closest thing we will see to an Eddie Betts type (granted its a very small sample size)

Ranking is a fine/outstanding player but plays a lot more in the midfield and more of a gut runner than Eddie.

If OP is fishing for compliments for Rankine, he doesn't need to, most footy fans are aware he is an elite/AA type player, but really not the same type of gun as Eddie Betts.

 

[Freomaniac]

3 all Australians as a crow and none as a blue say otherwise.

Eddie Betts also had a 75 goal season at the crows too