Review Dogs down Blues 79-59

[Bulldogs Legend]

And McKay did sweet * all without the umpires handing him frees 30 metres out directly in front, how s**t do you have to be to go around the body for a shot at goal when you're on a 45 degree angle?

Does Mackay get the most amount of shitty free kicks in the AFL for a big forward?

 

[Bulldogs Legend]

Arty Jones had a MASSIVE influence in the last. Feel like without him the game could have easily gone the other way.

He was fantastic but so were a number of others I reckon we were winning even when they got in front

 

[CarnTheScray]

How hilariously pathetic was that commentary last night?

All olden day commentators pining for the days of the VFL, hoping this disaster club deserves so much success because they are a big club and were successful 30 years ago in the Triassic period.

 

[Bulldogs Legend]

It was unquestionably a poor selection and nearly cost us the game.

On the plus side- in his minimal involvements I saw a speckle of something very intriguing. One to watch

LOL f…ing BS

 

[Bulldogs Legend]

the O'Donnell selection was not great, was never going to be able to impact, but the sub strategy was worse

sat out most of the 3rd quarter if not all, then sub is made 5 mins into the last, we were one player down for 35 minutes.

PretTy sure we won

 

[Tyrohad]

As always…

Expected Score / Actual Score

WB: 70 / 79
CA: 64 / 59

Expected Margin / Actual Margin: +6 / +20

Centre Bounce Attendance
22 - Bontempelli
20 - English. B. Smith
15 - Liberatore
10 - Daniel
3 - Lobb
2 - Macrae

Ruck Contests (Hitouts / To Advantage / Sharked)
85 - English (30 / 6 / 12)
19 - Lobb (7 / 1 / 0)
1 - Naughton (1 / 0 / 0)

Hitouts To Advantage
WB: 7
CA: 19

English v Pittonet (71 contests)
Hitouts: 22 / 43
To Advantage: 5 / 17
Clearances: 29 / 24
Score: 3.2 (20) / 1.4 (10)

English v Silvagni (13 contests)
Hitouts: 8 / 3
To Advantage: 1 / 1
Clearances: 6 / 3
Score: 0.0 (0) / 0.0 (0)

Lobb v Pittonet (11 contests)
Hitouts: 2 / 5
To Advantage: 0 / 1
Clearances: 5 / 5
Score: 0.1 (1) / 1.1 (7)

Lobb v Silvagni (8 contests)
Hitouts: 5 / 2
To Advantage: 1 / 0
Clearances: 4 / 2
Score: 2.0 (12) / 0.0 (0)

First Possessions
WB: 34

CA: 53

Clearances / Effective Clearances
WB: 44 / 34
CA: 36 / 30

Tackle Efficiency
WB: 61%
CA: 59%

Smothers
WB: 7

CA: 4

Forward Half Kicking Efficiency
WB: 58%
CA: 47%

Defensive Half Kicking Efficiency
WB: 77%
CA: 67%

Forward Half Contested Marks
WB: 6
CA: 4

Defensive Half Contested Marks
WB: 3
CA: 5

Score Launches
4 - Johannisen
3 - English, Liberatore, Richards
2 - Bontempelli, Daniel, Lobb, B. Smith
1 - Duryea, Gardner

Targets Inside 50

17 - No target/rushed
8 - Naughton
6 - Ugle-Hagen
4 - Scott
3 - Williams
2 - A. Jones, O’Donnell

Shots At Goal
WB: 21 (52%)
CA: 21 (38%)

Scoring Profile (Western Bulldogs / Carlton)
Set Shot: 6.5 / 6.6
Snap: 3.4 / 2.2
On Run: 2.1 / 0.1
Mark Play On: 0.0 / 0.0
Ground Kick: 0.0 / 0.0

0M-15M: 1.1 / 0.0
15M-30M: 2.5 / 1.2
31M-40M: 2.3 / 2.3
41M-50M: 3.1 / 4.1
51M+: 3.0 / 1.3

Scores Directly From FK/50MP: 0.0 / 0.1
Scores In Time-On: 6.5 / 2.4
Scores Sourced From D50: 1.2 / 1.2

Score Assists
3 - Naughton
2 - A. Jones, Ugle-Hagen, Williams
1 - Baker, Dale, Keath, Liberatore, O’Donnell

Defensive 50 Marks
WB: 31
CA: 20

Defensive 50 Intercept Marks
WB: 7

CA: 5

Defensive Half Turnovers
WB: 17
CA: 20

Forward Half Turnovers
WB: 50

CA: 42

Unforced Turnovers
WB: 8
CA: 10

Unforced Turnovers By Player
2 - Williams
1 - Gardner, Johannisen, Liberatore, Richards, B. Smith, Ugle-Hagen

Dropped Marks (Uncontested Only)
WB: 3
CA: 0

Turnovers Punished By Goals
1 - Baker, Dale, Johannisen, L. Jones, Liberatore, B. Smith

Champion Data Ranking Points (Supercoach)
141 - Liberatore
113 - Richards
112 - Bontemelli
102 - B. Smith
98 - Johannisen
92 - A. Jones
90 - Williams
89 - English
87 - Dale
86 - Daniel
81 - Macrae
79 - Naughton
67 - L. Jones
63 - Weightman
58 - Baker
57 - Scott
55 - Duryea
54 - Lobb
54 - Ugle-Hagen
50 - Keath
24 - Gardner
23 - O’Donnell
8 - McNeil

AFL Player Rating Points
21.2 - Liberatore
19.2 - Johannisen
18.1 - Richards
16.6 - B. Smith
14.2 - Bontempelli
13.8 - Naughton
11.5 - A. Jones
10.3 - Scott
9.9 - Macrae
9.8 - Dale
9.3 - Daniel
8.9 - Williams
8.9 - Lobb
7.9 - English
7.8 - Weightman
7.7 - L. Jones
5.6 - Baker
3.8 - Ugle-Hagen
3.4 - Duryea
3.1 - Gardner
2.8 - Keath
2.3 - O’Donnell
0.6 - McNeil

Time In Forward Half
Q1
WB: 45%
CA: 55%

Q2
WB: 46%
CA: 54%

Q3
WB: 56%
CA: 44%

Q4
WB: 56%
CA: 44%

Match
WB: 51%
CA: 49%

Pressure Gauge
Q1
WB: 165 (Poor)
CA: 147 (Poor)

Q2
WB: 170 (Below Average)
CA: 182 (Average)

Q3
WB: 181 (Average)
CA: 185 (Average)

Q4
WB: 219 (Elite)
CA: 170 (Below Average)

Match
WB: 185 (Average)
CA: 172 (Below Average)

Pressure Points Per Player
87 - Liberatore
71 - Bontempelli
53 - A. Jones
52 - Daniel
51 - English
44 - Weightman
42 - Macrae
36 - Williams
32 - Naughton
29 - Baker
28 - Dale
25 - Lobb
24 - Scott
23 - B. Smith
18 - Richards
14 - Keath
13 - Duryea
10 - McNeil
8 - L. Jones
7 - Ugle-Hagen
6 - O’Donnell
5 - Johannisen
2 - Gardner

Free Kick Summary
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Score Sources
Scores From Stoppages: 5.3 / 2.6
Scores From Turnovers: 6.9 / 6.4
Scores From Kick-Ins: 0.1 / 0.1

Am I missing something or was English and Lobb in the same centre bounce?

 

[gordo2016]

Saw this on the Carlton board.
"F#%@ this pathetic club. Decades of bs and no improvement. I am so over being a CFC supporter....."

I'm still mentally scarred from the thrashings were got from them in the 80s, but as it turned out they were cheating for a long time on an industrial scale so the hurt is lessened somewhat.

But on last night's game it's obvious that we need a forward coach that can put a system into place that ends this constant situation where the I50s are contested by 3 or 4 forwards at the same time. Not sure what Spanger's strategy is but surely the club can get someone who actually played as a forward, who played more than 56 games, and kicked more than 13 goals for their whole career.

It our greatest weakness, and the forwards are being poorly developed. They play on natural ability and that's about it.

Marra is developing quite nicely for a 20 yo, not sure what you expect of him so early. Artie Jones has improved out of sight , Weightman a bit down but not really worried about that, injury may have set him back a little. Naughton not kicking bags but doesn't need to if you share the load. Only people who would know how good Spangher is are those coached by him. He seems to have taught Artie Jones something. Forwards running into each other probably due to poor delivery in there, but they have been playing long together to work it out among themselves. And if they run into each other at least the ball comes to ground, rather than being a spectator and watching the opposition take an easy mark.

 

[Bulldogs Legend]

Olde English ( see what I did there.. ) would have folded like a cheap suit the entire game in the past, but to his credit as Pittonet smashed him for 98% of the game, he had some important touches in the last 3-4 minutes..

And PS, Spangher can officially get f*&#ed. We should have belted them by 6-8 goals if we had a cohesive forward structure. He needs to go at end of season.

Woof Woof - Arty Jones, dead set gun kid.

Arty has been coming along fantastically under Spanghers coaching

 

[Philthy1]

We kept Carltank to 59 points and McKay and Curnow didn’t hurt us much as they normally do. Keath, Jones and Gardner are playing as a unit. It may not be pretty but it is effective. I’m not sure Keath deserves to be the whipping boy he’s become.

O’Donnell did as much as A Jones and other players in their first game. He trained as a forward and back in the pre-season. You’ve got to expect what he gave us as a debutant.

 

[MaxiBont]

With Adelaide and Gold Coast coming up before Geelong we could really firm up our spot in the Top 8 and even be in the top 4 if we can win those two. Adelaide and Suns won’t be easy wins but realistically if we are wanting top 4 we should be beating them. 8-3 potentially would be crazy given our start but we are starting to look better and better.

Oh and Arty Jones is a hero

 

[Bulldogs Legend]

Not sure why we can't bury teams atm. Is it fitness, the team building up slowly? We are not playing top end footy, but we win games and that is so important. We are doing well atm. We need quite a bit of improvement still, but it is happening each week. Great win.

Burying them better than last years Grand Finalists

We are building nicely we don’t need to be playing our best now we need that in September

 

[Libbaaaa]

Commentary was poor but I’ll give a shout out to Buckley who is one of Jamarra’s biggest supporters. Constantly talking him up for his workrate and how he is tracking along nicely.

 

[Bulldogs Legend]

Seriously Bevo, stop faking around with this team on big games. Debut’s a kid who has played 3 games in the backline of the reserves, never played forward, so he plays him in the forward line, the guy was a deer in headlights all game and late in the game Curnow was the only likely forward on the ground to be a match winner, he has Keith on him, instead of Jones. *ing pissed off but super happy with the win. Arthur Jones/Jamarra and Scott won us that game late. Keith is done and should’ve been dropped for young O’Donnell to play third tall defender.

LOL great comedy

 

[Chalky White]

Weightman running through the midfield in the last actually surprised me. He was pretty average in the first 3 quarters but in the last he was amazingly good.
He puts his head in the hole and, if he gets a little more composure with ball in hand might be a replacement for Libba as our extraction unit. I much prefer his potential output as a ball winning mid that can go forward than as a forward who doesn't really play the front and centre role.
He likes to fly for marks which quite often doesn't help our KPFs.
I look forward to seeing his development in mid roles.
Shoutout to Caleb tonight, I thought he was amazing.

 

[Bulldogs Legend]

I don't think he is all that bad, nobody to replace him with anyways

He seems to have replaced McComb as fan forum enemy number one

 

[Bulldogs Legend]

Bev literally admitted that we were too top heavy round 1/2 and didn’t have the mix right, it’s honestly strange that we went back to that well? I don’t understand this one at all

No he didn’t

 

[BG32]

 

[Testekill]

The thing I find really annoying about the commentary for the Jones goal from the TV crew is that instead of talking about how good of a goal it was by Jones they were instead talking up Saad and how he stopped it from being a certain goal running in.

Like seriously? Just talk about the kid kicking his fourth career goal with a ripper.

 

[CarnTheScray]

He seems to have replaced McComb as fan forum enemy number one

He did some really bad things you can’t deny that.

 

[Dazb86]

Jones front and centre crumbing

 

[gordo2016]

Find Bucks to be very insightful in the box. Commentators got a bit excited when Carlton came back, but they do that in every game in the same situation. Huddo pretty good I reckon, not much better than him.

 

[Testekill]

Imagine if the tables were flipped and it was Duryea or Johannisen and Motlop, they'd be pumping Moltop up after kicking a goal like that instead of giving commiserations to our defender.

 

[Bulldogs Legend]

Maybe O'Donnell should have been played there. I agree there is no obvious replacement but Keith is barely hanging on. Someone will get hold of him and tear us apart soon. When do we play Geelong?

Update us when that happens

 

[Testekill]

Find Bucks to be very insightful in the box. Commentators got a bit excited when Carlton came back, but they do that in every game in the same situation. Huddo pretty good I reckon, not much better than him.

Bucks has a very good football brain, I don't think he was a great coach but he'd be great to have as a second in command.

 

[Bulldogs Legend]

He did some really bad things you can’t deny that.

His spoiling and positioning still seems ok nut I get he does make some errors