Current Disappearance of 3yo William Tyrrell Pt 3 * Coroner's Hearings Concluded

[Kurve]

Continued from PART 2

Criminal charges:

• Apprehended Violence Orders on both (AVOs)
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster mother *Not Guilty
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster father *Not Guilty
• 2 x charges of assault against a child on former foster mother *Guilty
• 1 x charge of assault against a child on former foster father *Not Guilty
• Stalking &/or Intimidation on both *Guilty
• Dummy bidding real estate fraud *Guilty

TIMELINE

Where's William Tyrrell? - The Ch 10 podcast (under Coroner's subpoena)

Operation Arkstone

Please type names out in full for those who are not covered by suppression orders.

For those covered by suppression orders, please use the following to indicate:

FM - Foster Mother
FF - Foster Father
FGM - Foster Grandmother
FD - Foster Daughter
FPs - Foster Parents

Up to you if you wish to refer to them as former fosters but please write it in full, strictly using the above. No deviations.

Other initials posters will use informally but should not are:

BCR - Batar Creek Road
FA - Frank Abbott
MW - Michelle White
SFR - Strike Force Rosann
AMS - Anne Maree Sharpley
CCR - Cobb and Co Road
GO - Geoff Owens
One even reduced bike riding to - BR
COG - Consciousness of guilt. Like WHO KNEW?

 

[RustyHawk]

Three-year-old William Tyrell went missing from his grandmother's backyard at Kendall on the NSW mid-north coast on 12th September 2014.

Search involving police, SES and volunteers from 13th to 21st September 2014 when the search was scaled down.

January 6 2015 - Police deny it was a targeted abduction

January 20, 2015
Forensic teams searched the home of tradesman William Harrie Spedding, who was understood to have given a quote at William's grandmother's house four days before he disappeared.

Police seized a number of items and the property's septic tank was drained. Police also executed a search warrant for a Laurieton pawn shop believed to be operated by Mr Spedding.


2nd March 2015
The Homicide Squad began a new search for the body of William in dense bushland at Bonny Hills off the Pacific Highway after a tip-off from a member of the public.

Police searched for his body and further evidence about 20 kilometres from where William was last seen, in an area around Houston Mitchell Drive and Long Point Road.


Search continues.

Lets just hope this doesn't end up like the Beaumont children case and never being solved.

 

[shorsky]

I don’t know who’s responsible for William’s disappearance and whoever they are, they’re a monster.
I hope though that the two cars who were allegedly seen by FM in the street, the exact same cars owned by two separate people who are a friend of a friend, also one who is a known ped (not Abbott) and who has links to 300 or more kms away, the exact same place someone said they gave someone and a boy a lift too, has been totally looked into.
Maybe FM didn’t see the cars
but, very coincidental that she identified these two exact types of cars.

Hoping you’ll please elaborate on this, as I wasn’t aware that there was any match for the cars that FM reported seeing.

 

[Underarrest_]

Hoping you’ll please elaborate on this, as I wasn’t aware that there was any match for the cars that FM reported seeing.

Shorsky, I won’t say too much but both owners of the cars have been interviewed by police as persons of interest.

 

[LookAndSee]

By the way, I felt the stern reprimand Allana Smith delivered to Box and Jubes was well earned.

I wouldn't have said it quite as colourfully as Smith did, but there was a lot of truth in what she said.

The award-winning journalist thought he would ambush her. In his mind this was going to get so many clicks, people talking about this loose lips sink ships child advocate. Well, Dan how'd it play out?? It fell flat, didn't it? Even got you on public record saying you want an inquiry. It was like Ms Smih had you in a headlock, waiting for you to tap out 1,2,3.

She won't be sinking her ship in 2025, she'll be watching from the mainland as HMAS TitANIC 2025 sinks to the bottom of the ocean again.

 

[LookAndSee]

I do have a soft spot for Alannah

Alannah comes across as genuine with a heart of gold, okay she might get fired up at times. But if you've lived the system, and walked in the shoes of the 10,000s of children in care then we'd perhaps gain an appreciation for her feelings.
I think Ms Smith is not afraid to grab a few by the crown jewels and remind them she's a true force of nature!

 

[31550]

I'm a bit fed up with this case. And a bit more fed up with the discussion.
It is clear to me that from the outset the public has been misled and misdirected for ten years.
There is an entire circus full of jugglers and clowns and magicians enticing us to look everywhere except at the truth.
That continues today, perhaps even more than ever.
Everyone has their own agenda - everyone: The fosters, NSWPOL, FACS, the coroner, the 'journalists' ...
And none of them are totally intent on solving the case and providing justice for William.
Very few people really want this case 'solved'. Most just want it 'closed'.
And those of us who keep calling out, "The emperor has no clothes on" just keep getting shut down or disparaged (look at the treatment of Alanna Smith for example).
I maintain the answer is in the file. The truth is there, hiding in plain sight if you like.
One day, someone may have the courage and fortitude to reveal it for all to see.
But I don't see that day coming soon. Too many jugglers and clowns.
I've lost what little faith I had in the justice system to eventually prevail in this case.
I'll wait and see what the 'latest narrative' is from the major players, but I don't expect any further progress in finding justice for William. Just another bundle of lies and deception.

 

[Awakening]

I'm a bit fed up with this case. And a bit more fed up with the discussion.
It is clear to me that from the outset the public has been misled and misdirected for ten years.
There is an entire circus full of jugglers and clowns and magicians enticing us to look everywhere except at the truth.
That continues today, perhaps even more than ever.
Everyone has their own agenda - everyone: The fosters, NSWPOL, FACS, the coroner, the 'journalists' ...
And none of them are totally intent on solving the case and providing justice for William.
Very few people really want this case 'solved'. Most just want it 'closed'.
And those of us who keep calling out, "The emperor has no clothes on" just keep getting shut down or disparaged (look at the treatment of Alanna Smith for example).
I maintain the answer is in the file. The truth is there, hiding in plain sight if you like.
One day, someone may have the courage and fortitude to reveal it for all to see.
But I don't see that day coming soon. Too many jugglers and clowns.
I've lost what little faith I had in the justice system to eventually prevail in this case.
I'll wait and see what the 'latest narrative' is from the major players, but I don't expect any further progress in finding justice for William. Just another bundle of lies and deception.

This is the best post you’ve made. You’ve summed it up well.

Disappointed in the lot of them, is an understatement.

 

[BFew]

Would be very surprised if the current NSW Government initiates any inquiry into this case anytime soon

IMO, more likely, after the inquest report is released, assuming it's an open finding and no charge are laid, they'll assign a new team of investigators to look at the case with fresh eyes.

https://www.news.com.au/national/crime/former-william-tyrrell-cop-gary-jubelin-reflects-on-inquest/news-story/2e1ef7c1df94e25516359ca3cb796650

'Former William Tyrrell cop Gary Jubelin reflects on inquest​

The former lead on the William Tyrrell investigation opens up on why he asked for an inquest, and his take on how it played out.

Gary Jubelin
December 20, 2024 - 9:55AM'
...
If the relevant authorities don’t have the stomach for a public inquiry, I urge the police commissioner to initiate a comprehensive review of the investigation.

This review should include all individuals involved, past and present, with the primary goal of uncovering the truth about what happened to William.
...'

 

[Kurve]

The latest Witness episode.

 

[Kurve]

Gary Jubelin
December 20, 2024 - 9:55AM'
...
If the relevant authorities don’t have the stomach for a public inquiry, I urge the police commissioner to initiate a comprehensive review of the investigation.

This review should include all individuals involved, past and present, with the primary goal of uncovering the truth about what happened to William.

This is what we've just had a Coroner's inquiry for, that took years to conclude.

Enough already. imo.

Let it go to Cold Case and tamp all the noise around it down, that's when something might give.

 

[31550]

This is what we've just had a Coroner's inquiry for, that took years to conclude.

Enough already. imo.

Let it go to Cold Case and tamp all the noise around it down, that's when something might give.

They can't really have an external inquest into the police investigation while the investigation is ongoing.
I'd imagine the police won't want to hand over all their operational data until they have 'tidied it up', so they'll keep the case open until this is done. This might string it out for a few more years until all the key players are retired or moved on.
Nobody has the (1) inclination, (2) time and (3) resources to find out what really happened to William.
All three are required.

 

[Kurve]

The latest episode of Witness is transcribed on this page.

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[passball]

I wonder if everyone involved in William’s disappearance, and I mean several, were to get full immunity, would they they come forward with the truth?
Would you stay hidden to further yourself but have that guilt hopefully burn in to your life daily.
Or would you come forward to make peace with yourself because it is the HONEST thing to do, regardless of what happens?
Not forgetting there is full immunity for all involved.
William could be your SON, GRANDSON, NEPHEW, would you want to know the answer, IF IT WAS YOU?

 

[passball]

I'm a bit fed up with this case. And a bit more fed up with the discussion.
It is clear to me that from the outset the public has been misled and misdirected for ten years.
There is an entire circus full of jugglers and clowns and magicians enticing us to look everywhere except at the truth.
That continues today, perhaps even more than ever.
Everyone has their own agenda - everyone: The fosters, NSWPOL, FACS, the coroner, the 'journalists' ...
And none of them are totally intent on solving the case and providing justice for William.
Very few people really want this case 'solved'. Most just want it 'closed'.
And those of us who keep calling out, "The emperor has no clothes on" just keep getting shut down or disparaged (look at the treatment of Alanna Smith for example).
I maintain the answer is in the file. The truth is there, hiding in plain sight if you like.
One day, someone may have the courage and fortitude to reveal it for all to see.
But I don't see that day coming soon. Too many jugglers and clowns.
I've lost what little faith I had in the justice system to eventually prevail in this case.
I'll wait and see what the 'latest narrative' is from the major players, but I don't expect any further progress in finding justice for William. Just another bundle of lies and deception.

Exactly what certain people want.
Cold case, nothing to see here.
WAS in the file.

 

[craffles]

I wonder if everyone involved in William’s disappearance, and I mean several, were to get full immunity, would they they come forward with the truth?
Would you stay hidden to further yourself but have that guilt hopefully burn in to your life daily.
Or would you come forward to make peace with yourself because it is the HONEST thing to do, regardless of what happens?
Not forgetting there is full immunity for all involved.
William could be your SON, GRANDSON, NEPHEW, would you want to know the answer, IF IT WAS YOU?

I think it’s worth considering at this stage similar to what happened with Michael Atkins for revealing the location Matthew Leveson’s body.

The Australian public but especially Williams birth parents and his sister deserve the right to be able to grieve and move forward with their lives.

 

[31550]

I think it’s worth considering at this stage similar to what happened with Michael Atkins for revealing the location Matthew Leveson’s body.

The Australian public but especially Williams birth parents and his sister deserve the right to be able to grieve and move forward with their lives.

It's a possible strategy, but in the case of Leveson, Atkins was compelled to give evidence at the inquest, which then forced him to lie under oath. Police were able to prove Atkins lied, and then use that as a bargaining chip to grant indemnity in return for disclosing the location of the body.

For something similar to happen in William's case, the perpetrator would similarly need to be compelled to give evidence before the inquest. This hasn't happened, and the coroner has vacated the inquest.

One might question why.

 

[stormbird]

Does anyone know why there's no episode today from the Witness: William Tyrrell podcast? Is it still on the way or have they decided to finish instead? I checked Dan Box's X account but there was no news there.

 

[Awakening]

Does anyone know why there's no episode today from the Witness: William Tyrrell podcast? Is it still on the way or have they decided to finish instead? I checked Dan Box's X account but there was no news there.

My understanding is there will be more episodes in the future but not until the new year.

Possibly even after the coroner delivers her findings?

They mentioned discovering things that had never been made public but never committed to an actual date.

 

[stormbird]

My understanding is there will be more episodes in the future but not until the new year.

Possibly even after the coroner delivers her findings?

They mentioned discovering things that had never been made public but never committed to an actual date.

Thanks, Awakening. It makes sense they might want to keep it going till the findings are released. I'd thought one of the earlier episodes said they were finishing at the end of this year.

 

[Awakening]

Thanks, Awakening. It makes sense they might want to keep it going till the findings are released. I'd thought one of the earlier episodes said they were finishing at the end of this year.

You could be right. My memory sometimes fails me.