Current Disappearance of 3yo William Tyrrell Pt 2 * Coroners Inquiry CANCELLED!

[Kurve]

Continued from PART 1

Criminal charges:

• Apprehended Violence Orders on both (AVOs)
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster mother *Not Guilty
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster father *Not Guilty
• 2 x charges of assault against a child on former foster mother *Guilty
• 1 x charge of assault against a child on former foster father *Not Guilty
• Stalking &/or Intimidation on both *Guilty
• Dummy bidding real estate fraud *Guilty

TIMELINE

Where's William Tyrrell? - The Ch 10 podcast (under Coroner's subpoena)

Operation Arkstone

Please type names out in full for those who are not covered by suppression orders.

For those covered by suppression orders, please use the following to indicate:

FM - Foster Mother
FF - Foster Father
FGM - Foster Grandmother
FD - Foster Daughter
FPs - Foster Parents

Up to you if you wish to refer to them as former fosters but please write it in full, strictly using the above. No deviations.

Other initials posters will use informally but should not are:

BCR - Batar Creek Road
FA - Frank Abbott
MW - Michelle White
SFR - Strike Force Rosann
AMS - Anne Maree Sharpley
CCR - Cobb and Co Road
GO - Geoff Owens
One even reduced bike riding to - BR
COG - Consciousness of guilt. Like WHO KNEW?

 

[Underarrest_]

Well, Peter the truck driver has hardly given the Coroner a reason to pause and suspend the inquest!!

No doesn’t seem to be the case.

 

[Wallace52]

It’s strange though, the brief of evidence sat with the DPP for so long and then nothing.

Yeah maybe they were waiting for the warrant to run out and then boom, the briefs swing back to the cops like a boomerang.

 

[Underarrest_]

Are Cataholic’s allowed to play devils advocate? Jokes aside, she said 50 years and then she said 200 years and also 40. So she was just throwing numbers around.

Is she really so silly to not know that human bones break down over time? There’s going to be nothing left in 40 years time or 200 years time and there’s probably not much left now. It’s a 10 year long missing persons investigation involving the person she calls her “son”. Surely she’s done a bit of research on what the men and women searching might expect to find?

If my child was missing I would want to know whatever I could, and I would try to get my head around all of the ins and outs of forensics, because I would be trying to solve their disappearance and I am sure she was also trying to solve her son’s disappearance. Surely?!

On a side note, I recently listened to the story of Greg Lynn, Russell Hill and Carol Clay, in which the killer Lynn drove back and chucked some logs and kerosene on the bodies months after he placed them in a bush grave.

“I started to get nervous that this plan was unravelling, and then you knocked on my door,” he later told Sergeant Florence and Leading Senior Constable Passingham.

Lynn may have disposed of the campsite evidence, but there was still something in the bush that had the potential to bring him unstuck — the bodies.

With the city facing more lockdowns and travel restrictions, Lynn had to be patient.

Seven months after the campers’ deaths, Lynn made another journey into Victoria’s remote High Country.

This time, he was headed to Union Spur Track — where he had left the bodies of Mr Hill and Ms Clay under a pile of sticks and leaves.

“They were decomposing,” he later told the police.

Lynn placed some extra logs and kerosene on the bodies and lit a match.

He said he sat by the fire for hours until all that was left were tiny fragments of bone.

“I just used a dustpan to scoop it up and throw it around. There is literally nothing there,” he said.

“I’d never wanna go back there.”

In the months after the Union Spur trip, Lynn said he continued to look over his shoulder, fearing the police would come knocking again. Life felt like the movie The Truman Show, he said, where everybody seemed to know something that he didn’t.

Mobile phone pings, a burnt-out campsite and the 'Button Man': Inside the missing campers investigation

A camping trip brought Carol Clay and Russell Hill to a remote pocket of Victoria — but the pair would never emerge from the Wonnangatta Valley.

www.abc.net.au

Yet police were doing things Greg Lynn had no idea about, like placing surveillance in his house while he was home (asleep) and his son was actually awake. Unbelievable what police do and I think as much as the FPs would think they’re smart and know what police are up too, they wouldn’t have any idea of the lengths they go too.
Same as Brett Cowan being flown around the country with his new found friends and job.

 

[Wallace52]

Yet police were doing things Greg Lynn had no idea about, like placing surveillance in his house while he was home (asleep) and his son was actually awake.

I am not too familiar with the case, but that is absolutely amazing.

Unbelievable what police do and I think as much as the FPs would think they’re smart and know what police are up too, they wouldn’t have any idea of the lengths they go too.

I can only hope!!

Same as Brett Cowan being flown around the country with his new found friends and job.

Classic move!

 

[Kurve]

Yet police were doing things Greg Lynn had no idea about, like placing surveillance in his house while he was home (asleep) and his son was actually awake. Unbelievable what police do and I think as much as the FPs would think they’re smart and know what police are up too, they wouldn’t have any idea of the lengths they go too.
Same as Brett Cowan being flown around the country with his new found friends and job.

I'd strongly suspect the FPs would have known the lengths the police went to, to convict Brett Cowan of Daniel's murder. It was a really high profile case.

Cowan's murder trial was in February 2014. William went missing only 7 months later in the September.

 

[Cataholic]

That's right.

Please refer Cataholic to the sticky

Apologies.

I couldn't see reference to these. Is there something I missed?

 

[Kurve]

Apologies.

I couldn't see reference to these. Is there something I missed?

Can you see the sticky at the top of every page?

 

[Cataholic]

Can you see the sticky at the top of every page?

Yes......

Does the last bit essentially mean no initials should be used at all?

 

[Underarrest_]

I'd strongly suspect the FPs would have known the lengths the police went to, to convict Brett Cowan of Daniel's murder. It was a really high profile case.

Cowan's murder trial was in February 2014. William went missing only 7 months later in the September.

These two cases were so close.
I think FPs would be on alert but not know all the tactics and it would be easy to let your guard down if time has passed and you have trust in someone. As an example and not saying they can’t trust Box but they seem quite prepared to have secret meetings with him.

 

[Kurve]

Yes......

Does the last bit essentially mean no initials should be used at all?

Not if we can easily understand who you're referring to.

 

[Wallace52]

These two cases were so close.
I think FPs would be on alert but not know all the tactics and it would be easy to let your guard down if time has passed and you have trust in someone. As an example and not saying they can’t trust Box but they seem quite prepared to have secret meetings with him.

Clearly, he has earned their trust.

And I think he’s got their backs. I think they can trust him.

 

[Wallace52]

Yes......

Does the last bit essentially mean no initials should be used at all?

It just lightens the cognitive load when you can actually just spell the names of people out in full.

Not those under suppression of course, but everyone else.

I’m reading your post and I keep stopping to translate what your intended initials are and it’s slowing me down!

 

[Underarrest_]

Clearly, he has earned their trust.

And I think he’s got their backs. I think they can trust him.

I would trust no one.
Except my dog

 

[Wallace52]

I would trust no one.
Except my dog

Or cat! Or chook! I trust my chook implicitly!

I'd strongly suspect the FPs would have known the lengths the police went to, to convict Brett Cowan of Daniel's murder. It was a really high profile case.

Not only that but Bruce and Denise probably yarned-up with the fosters, sharing their trauma and bonding over that.

They were very aware of Daniel’s case as the Morecombe’s auspiced for them for a while, amirite?

Cowan's murder trial was in February 2014. William went missing only 7 months later in the September.

For some reason I’m thinking of Alison Baden-Clay’s funeral. Didn’t the police put a a covert microphone in the flowers in an attempt to catch the womanising murderous husband Gerard?

 

[Kurve]

These two cases were so close.
I think FPs would be on alert but not know all the tactics and it would be easy to let your guard down if time has passed and you have trust in someone. As an example and not saying they can’t trust Box but they seem quite prepared to have secret meetings with him.

Yes, they were close together and in further coincidence, the Daniel Morcombe Foundation was linked to Insight and the Where's William campaign.

 

[Underarrest_]

Yes, they were close together and in further coincidence, the Daniel Morcombe Foundation was linked to Insight and the Where's William campaign.

If FM is guilty it’s sickening that they linked to the Daniel Morcombe Foundation. What a contrast it would be.

 

[Wallace52]

Dan Box has taken over wearing the pants from Lia Harris in "Championing The Cause"
Keep pointing the finger at the ped*s Dan... nobody buys it...
The House of Cards is looking rather unstable!

Well Harris works for the ABC now so no doubt I would expect they would insist she remain impartial and keep a professional distance from her subject. IMO

 

[Kurve]

If FM is guilty it’s sickening that they linked to the Daniel Morcombe Foundation. What a contrast it would be.

In all the circumstances, the decision to build a brief against the FM and recommend her for charges, was not made lightly. IMO.

 

[Wallace52]

If FM is guilty it’s sickening that they linked to the Daniel Morcombe Foundation. What a contrast it would be.

It’s sickening anyway, given that the Morecombe’s are trying to promote safety for children, equip children to have 5 safe adults to talk to etc. and meanwhile whilst the Morecombe’s are auspicing for them, the fosters are smacking and stalking/intimidating children in their care.

Daniel Morecombe's parents cut ties with William Tyrrell charity

The parents of murdered Queensland schoolboy Daniel Morcombe have cut ties with the Where's William Tyrrell campaign and is trying to get its name and logo off the Tyrrell website.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Underarrest_]

Or cat! Or chook! I trust my chook implicitly!

Not only that but Bruce and Denise probably yarned-up with the fosters, sharing their trauma and bonding over that.

They were very aware of Daniel’s case as the Morecombe’s auspiced for them for a while, amirite?

For some reason I’m thinking of Alison Baden-Clay’s funeral. Didn’t the police put a a covert microphone in the flowers in an attempt to catch the womanising murderous husband Gerard?

Chooks are good too!
Yes police did bug the flowers at the funeral. Who would think of this until you know it’s been done.

 

[Underarrest_]

It’s sickening anyway, given that the Morecombe’s are trying to promote safety for children, equip children to have 5 safe adults to talk to etc. and meanwhile whilst the Morecombe’s are auspicing for them, the fosters are smacking and stalking/intimidating children in their care.

Yes true.

 

[shorsky]

It’s a long bow to draw.

What is going on with that podcast? I feel like they’re trying to throw shade at the alleged drink driver, but why??

My thoughts are that the ‘drink driver’ may have been involved some how in the issues with Jubelin

 

[shorsky]

What if it’s not?

And what had any of that to do with a missing 3 year old boy?

Sadly I think it’s long past the time when there was any real interest in ‘William’. I think the ‘main players’ are now all focused on protecting their as … es and feeding their egos.

 

[shorsky]

It's also possible that he told the FM attention was turning to her and that's why he was banned from having any contact.

Not that he appears to have taken any notice of that Ban…. how does that work ?

 

[LookAndSee]

If the FM has lied at any time during the last 10 years in giving statements to the police or changing her version of events, then they have her for PERJURY, hook, line, sinker!

FM might try to act she's confident, by challenging Laidlaw and Co. with well show me the evidence you have.... but every person has their poker face. I doubt deep down she's as confident as she makes out to be.

Don't for one second think Jubes doesn't know, he knows plenty prior to his dismissal; Gary simply chose to look the other way - but was that him or other forces making him do that?

I'll call her bluff any day, to the lifeboats!