Current Disappearance of 3yo William Tyrrell Pt 2 * Coroners Inquiry CANCELLED!

[Kurve]

Continued from PART 1

Criminal charges:

• Apprehended Violence Orders on both (AVOs)
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster mother *Not Guilty
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster father *Not Guilty
• 2 x charges of assault against a child on former foster mother *Guilty
• 1 x charge of assault against a child on former foster father *Not Guilty
• Stalking &/or Intimidation on both *Guilty
• Dummy bidding real estate fraud *Guilty

TIMELINE

Where's William Tyrrell? - The Ch 10 podcast (under Coroner's subpoena)

Operation Arkstone

Please type names out in full for those who are not covered by suppression orders.

For those covered by suppression orders, please use the following to indicate:

FM - Foster Mother
FF - Foster Father
FGM - Foster Grandmother
FD - Foster Daughter
FPs - Foster Parents

Up to you if you wish to refer to them as former fosters but please write it in full, strictly using the above. No deviations.

Other initials posters will use informally but should not are:

BCR - Batar Creek Road
FA - Frank Abbott
MW - Michelle White
SFR - Strike Force Rosann
AMS - Anne Maree Sharpley
CCR - Cobb and Co Road
GO - Geoff Owens
One even reduced bike riding to - BR
COG - Consciousness of guilt. Like WHO KNEW?

 

[Underarrest_]

If FM did drive after FF got home, where did he park his car, not behind FGM’s car?

 

[stormbird]

AAP, 04 Nov 2024 (adds to the article linked earlier in The Advertiser)

https://www.aap.com.au/news/corpse-disposal-claim-against-tyrrell-foster-mum-tested/

 

[stormbird]

AAP, 04 Nov 2024 (adds to the article linked earlier in The Advertiser)

https://www.aap.com.au/news/corpse-disposal-claim-against-tyrrell-foster-mum-tested/

From the AAP article:

'The court heard from Griffith University’s Professor Jon Olley, an expert in geomorphology and how water changes landscapes, who helped NSW Police design and carry out the search.

He said officers canvassed the area in a “very thorough” manner.

The polyester Spider-Man suit William was wearing would have lasted hundreds of years if the three-year-old’s body had been dumped in a local creek, Prof Olley said.

Rubber-soled shoes and sandals would have lasted for decades before breaking down, he added.

In looking for William, police followed through on tip-offs from prison inmates and clairvoyants claiming to have information, the court was told.

“Given the circumstances of possible pedophile involvement in William’s disappearance, it would have been remiss of police not to follow up on these leads,” Mr Craddock said.

One lead involved neighbours hearing a car doing a U-turn in the street outside the foster grandmother’s home about the time of the disappearance, he told the court.

But police were unable to verify that information or track down the vehicle. ...

Pedophile Frank Abbott – who was a person of interest in William’s disappearance but cleared by police – watched the inquest from a cell at Long Bay prison telling Ms Grahame he wanted to give further evidence.

Other potential suspects such as Bill Spedding and Paul Savage were investigated but later cleared of involvement in the kidnapping, the coroner heard.'

 

[31550]

If FM did drive after FF got home, where did he park his car, not behind FGM’s car?

There is room for two cars side by side in the carport.

 

[31550]

One lead involved neighbours hearing a car doing a U-turn in the street outside the foster grandmother’s home about the time of the disappearance, he told the court.

But police were unable to verify that information or track down the vehicle. ...

Which means it wasn't the postie.

 

[Underarrest_]

There is room for two cars side by side in the carport.

Looks like only one to me or is it my eyes.

 

[Kurve]

Which means it wasn't the postie.

If it was a strangers car with presumably, William being snatched in the FGM driveway, William had to circle the house completely and come out at that driveway, the stranger stops, gets out of their car, snatches William who doesn't scream, gets back in the car and shuts the door maybe two doors and drives off, the FM nor the FGM heard any of this only metres away.

Yet the Crabbes heard a car turn around at the FGM house.

 

[stormbird]

Which means it wasn't the postie.

The postie said she'd been there early that day (about 8:45 am according to Jubelin's book I Catch Killers), so unless she'd done a second visit later the same day the vehicle heard by the Crabbs was always someone in another vehicle which just sounded like hers.

 

[Underarrest_]

I hope the truck driver gives evidence tomorrow so we at least know something.

 

[Underarrest_]

If it was a strangers car with presumably, William being snatched in the FGM driveway, William had to circle the house completely and come out at that driveway, the stranger stops, gets out of their car, snatches William who doesn't scream, gets back in the car and shuts the door maybe two doors and drives off, the FM nor the FGM heard any of this only metres away.

Yet the Crabbes heard a car turn around at the FGM house.

but didn’t we hear that no one heard the postie doing her rounds that day neither.

 

[Wallace52]

I hope the truck driver gives evidence tomorrow so we at least know something.

It won’t be tomorrow.

 

[alwaysintrigued]

I hope the truck driver gives evidence tomorrow so we at least know something.

Wednesday

 

[Underarrest_]

It won’t be tomorrow.

Oh geez will be good to clarify at least one drive and anything else.

 

[Kurve]

but didn’t we hear that no one heard the postie doing her rounds that day neither.

Do we know if the postie delivered anything that day to number 45?

8.45 that morning there was quite a bit of activity though, the kids were in the house running along the verandah, breakfast etc and the other kids in the street were on their way to school.

 

[Underarrest_]

Do we know if the postie delivered anything that day to number 45?

8.45 that morning there was quite a bit of activity though, the kids were in the house running along the verandah, breakfast etc and the other kids in the street were on their way to school.

I’m not sure but there were other neighbours home, one who’s daughter normally comes to visit and cancelled and another who said William disappeared after she left to go to town. (Sorry not sure where I read this.)
I’m not sure if this or no one hearing the postie is accurate though.

 

[Wallace52]

In other words, is likely only circumstantial and speculative evidence, and 1 or 2 preferred/most likely according to Laidlaw theories, out of the many possibilities.

I think it might depend on who the other witnesses are.

I’m half-waiting to hear that Dr Banks has interviewed “Lindsay” like he interviewed Lynette and Chris Dawson’s daughter.

Let’s see if he turns up on the witness list.

IMO

 

[Wallace52]

Wednesday

Thanks for that!

 

[Wallace52]

It appears that the former foster parents have attended day one of the inquest without wearing their Where’s William ribbons.

Credit: NCA/Newswire

Back middle (FM)

Back left (FF)

 

[BFew]

Wednesday

What's on the agenda for tomorrow then (Tuesday)?

 

[Underarrest_]

The foster parents have attended the inquest without their Where’s William ribbons.

Credit: NCA/Newswire

Back middle (FM)

Back left (FF)

Do they normally wear them to court?

 

[js47]

There is a photo where FGM car is parked in the car port and FF car is parked beside it on the other side of the lattice and a red car is parked on the street

 

[Underarrest_]

There is a photo where FGM car is parked in the car port and FF car is parked beside it on the other side of the lattice and a red car is parked on the street

Thank you.

 

[stormbird]

From the News.com.au / NewsWire link:

"The witness list for Monday includes Professor Jon Olley, Senior Constable Jost Preis and Dr Jennifer Menzies. ...

The court was told the police believed that William died in an accidental fall and his foster mother disposed of his body in nearby bushland at the corner of Batar Creek Rd and Cobb and Co Rd.

Counsel assisting Gerard Craddock SC told the court that according to the police theory, the foster mother then returned to her mother’s home at Benaroon Drive and phoned triple-0."

From an update to the News.com.au / NewsWire article:

'Water science expert Professor Jon Olley was brought in by NSW Police as a consultant during the dig.

“In summary it was fair to say the search described was extremely thorough,” asked barrister John Stratton SC, who is appearing for William’s foster parents.

“It was an extremely thorough search,” Professor Olley said.

He told the court that a polyester suit similar to the Spider-Man outfit William was wearing on the day he disappeared would have taken centuries to degrade.

“The estimate is hundreds of years,” Professor Olley said.

The court has heard that no traces of William have ever been found, however the search did uncover animal bones including kangaroo limbs.

The court heard that Professor Olley also sent an email to a wildlife expert at the Department of Primary Industries asking if any bones could have been taken by pigs and wild dogs.'

 

[js47]

How do you know Dan Box thinks?
Whoops I mean how do you know what Dan Box Thinks?

 

[31550]

The foster parents have attended the inquest without their Where’s William ribbons.

Credit: NCA/Newswire

Back middle (FM)

Back left (FF)

Was Clare rocking the black top and oversize sunglasses?

Looks like only one to me or is it my eyes.

Room for one car on the left of the carport, and one under cover. Wide enough that either could get out without moving the other.