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As far as countries go. The US is the biggest shithole on earth.
Why would you say that. I've been there twice and it's probably the prettiest country I've been to. It's national parks and wilderness areas are spectacular. The people are very friendly and the shit government is gone. Politically they might be shit but everything else is fine. All countries have their problems, especially when you take into account the size of the population.
 
Why would you say that. I've been there twice and it's probably the prettiest country I've been to. It's national parks and wilderness areas are spectacular. The people are very friendly and the shit government is gone. Politically they might be shit but everything else is fine. All countries have their problems, especially when you take into account the size of the population.
Guns, muggings. Homeless, drugs. Worse than anywhere else.
 
Guns, muggings. Homeless, drugs. Worse than anywhere else.
We have that here and you have that there. It's a great country. I'm going back to Florida later in the year. The crime rate is better than all of South and Central America. Lower than most of Europe and no where near the crime rate of the countries in the Sub Continent. Those are the countries you're comparing them to.
 
We have that here and you have that there. It's a great country. I'm going back to Florida later in the year. The crime rate is better than all of South and Central America. Lower than most of Europe and no where near the crime rate of the countries in the Sub Continent. Those are the countries you're comparing them to.
USA ranked 21st - "very high" - plenty of places behind it - and yes these measures have their faults....

Ranked: World's Best Countries to Live in for Quality of Life (2024 Report) - CEOWORLD magazine https://search.app/2cJusvUM3i25rS29A
 
USA ranked 21st - "very high" - plenty of places behind it - and yes these measures have their faults....

Ranked: World's Best Countries to Live in for Quality of Life (2024 Report) - CEOWORLD magazine https://search.app/2cJusvUM3i25rS29A
If you look at the size of the population on that list then the USA is doing pretty well. The top countries have very small populations compared to America.
 
If you look at the size of the population on that list then the USA is doing pretty well. The top countries have very small populations compared to America.
US is easy to criticise - it's loud, noisy etc but because of its size also shouldn't generalise - still a lot of good stuff there - universities, literary scene, ranks at or near the top for innovation


Crime Index by Country 2025 https://search.app/aiigeYWXX1o2nSWi8
 
US is one of the most grotesquely unequal places in the world. Their governments have shamelessly funneled the wealth of the nation to the richest among them, leaving millions with a day-to-day struggle for survival.

Medical procedures we take for granted are enough to cause a permanent downward shift in a family's fortunes.

It's adherence to the rule of the gun and the rights of gun owners is a mockery of common sense and humanity. Gun violence has become normalised, a sure sign of a sick society.

New York is my favourite place in the world, and the US remains a mecca of our consumer and corporate world, but much of it is a dumpster fire.
 

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US is one of the most grotesquely unequal places in the world. Their governments have shamelessly funneled the wealth of the nation to the richest among them, leaving millions with a day-to-day struggle for survival.

Medical procedures we take for granted are enough to cause a permanent downward shift in a family's fortunes.

It's adherence to the rule of the gun and the rights of gun owners is a mockery of common sense and humanity. Gun violence has become normalised, a sure sign of a sick society.

New York is my favourite place in the world, and the US remains a mecca of our consumer and corporate world, but much of it is a dumpster fire.
US not right at the top of income inequality

Wealth Inequality by Country 2024 https://search.app/4QVon7QWFpxwESEMA

Yes - the US has some deep seated problems ...
 
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OECD stats different to world stats

School shootings ... 😯😯

You'd suggest that OECD provide a list of 'comparable' countries, and the US is lagging.

The point is that it generates more wealth than any other country and is a horror show in the distribution of wealth.

Trump is a rather large symptom of that sickness.
 

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