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Gethelred said:
By the same token, I was facing a left handed finger spinner bowling around the wicket on a very bouncy deck bowling back a length wide of off, and I went back and a long way across to cover my stumps as I left a ball that would've missed the stumps by half a foot. Ball flicks the knee roll of my back leg, and I hold my position - see, here's where it got me, that's how much it's going to miss the stumps - only for the muppet of an official ump to give me out for a ball that a) was bouncing over and b) was on an entire set of stumps wide of off. "Play a shot, mate!" yeah, but still.

LBW is always going to be a shit rule, because an LBW is an opinion. I played in a one day game with two official umps that had 18 LBW's fall across both innings without it being low and slow.

You get some absolutely shithouse LBW calls at all levels of cricket. People being pissed at being given out for balls they hit have a right to be a bit annoyed.
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Absolutely you get the good and the bad, it’s why I’ll never walk as you probably cop more bad decisions than getting away with edging one.

Same game and one of their bowlers went up for LBW whilst I was at non strikers end, over the wicket hit him outside leg, on the thigh pad. He stood there in shock when given not out as umpire said down leg, too high, not even close!!! 😂😂

Highlight of my umpiring career was doing finals for league I also played in, umpired a team I’d played against the week before who had called me a cheat for not giving a batsman out caught behind when it missed the bat by a metre but flicked his shirt down leg side. Biggest regret though was not reporting the matter to the league and having captain and keeper suspended for finals.

But their captain was a left armer and didn’t understand that balls pitching a metre outside leg stump cannot be given LBW…
 
t_94 said:
Self umpired cricket isn’t real cricket. Sign up to play that rubbish then cop the inevitable and don’t complain.
Especially if you pot test cricketers on this forum regularly.
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Unfortunately not every comp / association has their own umpires.

And I already said that even with Umpires, there are shocking decisions made.
 
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Latest Wisden World XI 2024 has 5 Poms. From the 4th ranked test team??!! That’d be like Freo providing half the all Australian team (no offence meant to Freo fans). Does Wisden even pretend to be impartial? Is it even relevant anymore?
 
Breretonisahood said:
Latest Wisden World XI 2024 has 5 Poms. From the 4th ranked test team??!! That’d be like Freo providing half the all Australian team (no offence meant to Freo fans). Does Wisden even pretend to be impartial? Is it even relevant anymore?
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the all australian tean is different - all 18 teams play 23 home & away games and approx 900 players eligible.

england always play the most games each year.

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Breretonisahood said:
Latest Wisden World XI 2024 has 5 Poms. From the 4th ranked test team??!! That’d be like Freo providing half the all Australian team (no offence meant to Freo fans). Does Wisden even pretend to be impartial? Is it even relevant anymore?
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Wisden has never pretended to be impartial - it's an English publication that has always given more credence to the English game. That they've picked five English players should surprise nobody.
 
Breretonisahood said:
Latest Wisden World XI 2024 has 5 Poms. From the 4th ranked test team??!! That’d be like Freo providing half the all Australian team (no offence meant to Freo fans). Does Wisden even pretend to be impartial? Is it even relevant anymore?
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Have you actually looked at the figures of the players selected, or just had a whinge based on the rankings of the teams they play for?

the test rankings are not even based on what happened in 2024. They are based on results across multiple years.

England had a decent enough year, went 9-8, and the guys that made that Wisden side have been debated ad nauseum on this site:

Duckett joined Jaiswal as the best of a bad bunch as the second opener.

Root picks himself, he averaged 55 and hit 6 hundreds in 17 tests.
Brook picks himself. He averaged 55 and hit 4 hundreds in 12 tests.
Jamie Smith averaged 43 in his first 9 tests, struck at over 70 and kept beautifully. His only rival was Rizwan who averaged 44 - but Rizwan’s average was cushioned by one big unbeaten score at the start of the year (170* against Bangladesh) and he didn’t pass 50 in his last 9 innings.


Which brings us to Gus Atkinson.

Atkinson had not played a test match before 2024.
He now has 52 wickets at 22, 3 five wicket hauls, and a test century.

If you can make a reasonable argument as to why they are in a Wisden XI based on their nationality and not on their output, I’d be interested to hear it.
 
big_e said:
Wisden has never pretended to be impartial - it's an English publication that has always given more credence to the English game. That they've picked five English players should surprise nobody.
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Wisden lost me when they named WG Grace (test average of 32) as one of the openers in the test team of the century.

I’ve already gone on about it on a different forum.

Understand the impact he had on early cricket in England but it is the test team of the century, not the ‘who had the most influence on cricket XI’

The fact that Gavaskar was overlooked as the other opener with Jack Hobbs was disgraceful
 
Rabish Binney said:
Wisden lost me when they named WG Grace (test average of 32) as one of the openers in the test team of the century.

I’ve already gone on about it on a different forum.

Understand the impact he had on early cricket in England but it is the test team of the century, not the ‘who had the most influence on cricket XI’

The fact that Gavaskar was overlooked as the other opener with Jack Hobbs was disgraceful
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People justifiably label trumper a great despite averaging 39, the whinging Aussies just go ‘but muh different era’ when the average is mentioned.

I’d have had Hobbs and Herbert sutcliffe opening but grace is an all time great.
 
Rabish Binney said:
Wisden lost me when they named WG Grace (test average of 32) as one of the openers in the test team of the century.

I’ve already gone on about it on a different forum.

Understand the impact he had on early cricket in England but it is the test team of the century, not the ‘who had the most influence on cricket XI’

The fact that Gavaskar was overlooked as the other opener with Jack Hobbs was disgraceful
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You try opening on a pommy wicket that hasn’t been covered, is damp & a lovely shade of emerald green.

I’ve done it. Good luck surviving.

The thing about Dr G is how much he stood out above his contemporaries. Which, in my view, is the mark of greatness.

In any event, we all know that John Dyson was robbed.
 
Dubai Quacker said:
You try opening on a pommy wicket that hasn’t been covered, is damp & a lovely shade of emerald green.

I’ve done it. Good luck surviving.

The thing about Dr G is how much he stood out above his contemporaries. Which, in my view, is the mark of greatness.

In any event, we all know that John Dyson was robbed.
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Yeah we all know his influence on cricket in the early days

No one disputes that

But he doesn’t deserve to be in the best test X1 of the century.
 

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t_94 said:
Yes, and those comps that don’t have them are wheelie bin cricket.
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Another thing that annoys me is the elitist attitude towards grass roots, park and community cricket. The vast majority of cricket lovers and cricket players never play at a level which warrants or can afford professional umpires, yet they are the ones who provide the income for professional players and umpires, pay their subscriptions, support club sponsors, attend fundraising events, pay the council rates to maintain grounds and facilities, attend working bees, coach and umpire the kids and drive them to games, etc. etc. Then we get pissed on by elitist snobs who tells us we aren't playing 'real cricket'.
 
Rabish Binney said:
Was umpiring one day, with one of our U16's who was doing square leg to square leg. He had come up to the Seniors because we were short.

One of our batsman attempted to hit their spinner back over his head, missed and was stumped by at least 2 yards. The young guy said not out and I immediately thought 'oh no, here we go'. I thought about whether or not I should (or even could) intervene and give our batsman out (which he clearly was)

Their captain immediately asked why it wasn't given out and our guy said (and this is no word of a lie), 'sorry I wasn't paying attention'.

To the oppo captain's credit, he said well at least you were honest and that defused the situation.

We we were headed for a heavy defeat anyway so it all worked out OK in the end but I hate to think if the game was close what would have happened..
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Pretty poor having the u16 out there tbh. I remember doing it when I was about 12 and giving a bloke out stumped when I wasn’t watching because of the pressure of being appealed. No idea if he was in or not but he seemed to think he was, but a junior shouldn’t ever be sent out to umpire even at square. Get them to do scoring if they need to do bits to help out

Opposition captain sounds like a good bloke, some of the shit blokes masquerading as cricketers out there wouldn’t be so forgiving
 
31550 said:
Another thing that annoys me is the elitist attitude towards grass roots, park and community cricket. The vast majority of cricket lovers and cricket players never play at a level which warrants or can afford professional umpires, yet they are the ones who provide the income for professional players and umpires, pay their subscriptions, support club sponsors, attend fundraising events, pay the council rates to maintain grounds and facilities, attend working bees, coach and umpire the kids and drive them to games, etc. etc. Then we get pissed on by elitist snobs who tells us we aren't playing 'real cricket'.
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That’s fine.
It’s not elitist to say the standard is rubbish. I don’t expect people to like being told the standard of cricket which they play is rubbish, either. Nothing groundbreaking about that.

Id bet good money the ones who pot test cricketers on this forum treat their wheelie bin cricket like a test match on the weekend. That annoys me.
 
t_94 said:
Please explain to me how I’m wrong. You’ve usually got a novel in you (which I enjoy reading btw).
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You're entitled to your opinion. I think the majority would disagree. IMO what you dismiss as rubbish bin cricket is actually real cricket to most people.
 
t_94 said:
Please explain to me how I’m wrong. You’ve usually got a novel in you (which I enjoy reading btw).
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Mate, take a trip across the great dividing range.

See where Trent Copeland and Chris Tremain, Henry Hunt, and Don Nash and Peter Toohey etc learned how to play cricket, and ask if the guys who played with them are wheelie bin cricketers just because people out here live in towns of, in some cases, a few thousand people, up to 30, and there aren’t umpires falling out of every noodle bar willing to give up their Saturdays to stand in 38 degree heat for $14 an hour.
 

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