Cousins

[Tyberious Funk]

Why not?

I am joe public,
i pay $19.90+gst for my ticket,
and expect to see 'elite' atheletes plying their trade.
Take my kids to watch this,
and certainly don't have to explain 'off field' problems to them.

That's rich coming from a Carlton supporter

 

[dan warna]

the AFL testing policy is weak.

we have had a number of players admit to drug abuse and the AFL haven't even tested some of them.

the tests are not hair or cell tests so given their are leaks time and time again the players can dodge the test till they are clean.

The rumours about fletcher, the open testamony on the tapes from Kerr and others, and off course the admission by cousins father, as well as a heap of other 'circumstantial' evidence would suggest the AFLs drug policy is window dressing at best.

 

[skipper kelly]

I thought this was a suzie thread.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Why not?

I am joe public,
i pay $19.90+gst for my ticket,
and expect to see 'elite' atheletes plying their trade.
Take my kids to watch this,
and certainly don't have to explain 'off field' problems to them.

Else i would pay $125+gst for 'entertainment' at a concert to watch whacked out druggies gving me 6 strings and a wah, wah peddle,
and leave the kids at home.

You're a customer. You can make the decision about whether or not you want to shell out cash for the entertainment.

That doesn't mean you get to determine drug policy, or sit in judgement of a player who owes you nothing.

Ben Cousins needs to satisfy his club and the AFL. Your assessment of Cousins, and of what should happen to him, is irrelevant.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

the AFL testing policy is weak.

we have had a number of players admit to drug abuse and the AFL haven't even tested some of them.

the tests are not hair or cell tests so given their are leaks time and time again the players can dodge the test till they are clean.

The rumours about fletcher, the open testamony on the tapes from Kerr and others, and off course the admission by cousins father, as well as a heap of other 'circumstantial' evidence would suggest the AFLs drug policy is window dressing at best.

OK.

So do we just abandon the policy altogether and start attributing penalties on the run?

The rules can be changed, and probably will be. But in the meantime, they should be applied as they are.

 

[skipper kelly]

You're a customer. You can make the decision about whether or not you want to shell out cash for the entertainment.

That doesn't mean you get to determine drug policy, or sit in judgement of a player who owes you nothing.

Ben Cousins needs to satisfy his club and the AFL. Your assessment of Cousins, and of what should happen to him, is irrelevant.

Not entirely true.

 

[Stig O'Hara]

You're a customer. You can make the decision about whether or not you want to shell out cash for the entertainment.

That doesn't mean you get to determine drug policy, or sit in judgement of a player who owes you nothing.

Ben Cousins needs to satisfy his club and the AFL. Your assessment of Cousins, and of what should happen to him, is irrelevant.

Fine, will vote with my feet,
simply wont go to WCE games,
apparently they are adult entertainment now.
Am sure the kids will understand.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Not entirely true.

Of course it is.

The AFL and the WCE will consider the perspectives of the punters and build it into their dealings with Cousins, but there's no direct line of accountability that runs between Ben Cousins and the man in the outer.

 

[skipper kelly]

Of course it is.

The AFL and the WCE will consider the perspectives of the punters and build it into their dealings with Cousins, but there's no direct line of accountability that runs between Ben Cousins and the man in the outer.

Its not irrelevant though.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Fine, will vote with my feet,
simply wont go to WCE games,
apparently they are adult entertainment now.
Am sure the kids will understand.

You'll be sorely missed.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Its not irrelevant though.

Well, how is it relevant?

 

[Stig O'Hara]

You'll be sorely missed.

There are more like me.

 

[skipper kelly]

Well, how is it relevant?

as he explained. However minor his actions are they are still relevant.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

There are more like me.

And that's why we stage the Mardi Gras.

 

[dan warna]

OK.

So do we just abandon the policy altogether and start attributing penalties on the run?

The rules can be changed, and probably will be. But in the meantime, they should be applied as they are.

no we tighten the testing, harshen the penalties and given that we know that staff know he has had problems going back at least 9 months and probably longer, as well any admissions, and hand over all the evidence to the police ad charge him with being an imbecile and shoot him.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

as he explained. However minor his actions are they are still relevant.

How?

Make the case.

Don't just say "they are relevant" over and over.

 

[Stig O'Hara]

And that's why we stage the Special Olympics.

Gutter response.
No further posts to this tripe.

 

[skipper kelly]

And that's why we stage the Special Olympics.

That comment is uncalled for.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

no we tighten the testing, harshen the penalties and given that we know that staff know he has had problems going back at least 9 months and probably longer, as well any admissions, and hand over all the evidence to the police ad charge him with being an imbecile and shoot him.

Interesting.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

That comment is uncalled for.

Probably.

But I couldn't resist.

I apologise for any offence caused.

 

[skipper kelly]

Probably.

But I couldn't resist.

I apologise for any offence caused.

Very childish Gunnar. Thats why you are not taken serious.

 

[QL 21]

Very childish Gunnar. Thats why you are not taken serious.

Apart from that one comment, everything GL has said in this thread has been spot on.

 

[Dusky]

Very childish Gunnar. Thats why you are not taken serious.

He answered and debunked every single post in this thread he replied to, don't try and change direction away from the fact he proved why 12 weeks is more than enough for Ben.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Very childish Gunnar.

True.

It was childish.

 

[JedMack]

Assuming Cousins returns this season is he still eligible for the Brownlow?