List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (16)

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• Tim Kelly (26/7/94) - Signed a 6 year contract (2020-25) in October 2019
• Dom Sheed (10/4/95) - Signed a 4 year extension (2022-25) in April 2021*
• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Jack Hutchinson (10/11/01) - Automatic 18 month contract (2024-25) when drafted in May 2024
• (R) Tyrell Dewar (27/3/04) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in June 2024
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Sandy Brock (14/12/02) - Signed a 1 year contract (2025) when recruited as a SSP signing in February 2025

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

That's pointless. I want to take a player that is going to be good enough for best 23 when all comers are fit. We need ball winners and run. Through the middle and off half back.

We should do both. We have a few people we need to turf as toast before we get to the mid season

 

[Monocle]

Greeves and Rodriguez look like the midfield picks form this game

Walley not clean

I watched him closely the two concerns for me with him, are firstly very poor foot skills and secondly he looks like a man amongst boys and he plays with grunt and little flair, he isnt that clean either by hand.

Freddy, I like a lot and I think is a really good prospect in the 1 - 5 range.

A player that caught my eye due to the fact that he made really good decisions and hit most of his targets was Harley Barker from Sturt.
A one touch clean footballer.
I am looking forward to watching him closer at the champs for SA.

Its only early days but i was pretty underwhelmed with the Academy kids as a collective, and Fu(k me all the kids that did impress me greatly are already tide to the Northern States Academys.

 

[WCEswift]

I watched him closely the two concerns for me with him, are firstly very poor foot skills and secondly he looks like a man amongst boys and he plays with grunt and little flair, he isnt that clean either by hand.

Freddy, I like a lot and I think is a really good prospect in the 1 - 5 range.

A player that caught my eye due to the fact that he made really good decisions and hit most of his targets was Harley Barker from Sturt.
A one touch clean footballer.
I am looking forward to watching him closer at the champs for SA.

Its only early days but i was pretty underwhelmed with the Academy kids as a collective, and Fu(k me all the kids that did impress me greatly are already tide to the Northern States Academys.

I think the champs will separate the cream from the chumps

 

[Monsterdarlz]

Rodriguez and Sharp showed more in there underage year then any of last years crop did outside of Ashcroft and FOS (injury interrupted as well). Smillie and Horton started like a house on fire then others came home strong still early days but I like the looks of Greeves, Freddy, Sharp, Cummings, Hargreaves Hobbins from the open pool still a few risers to come as well

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

I watched him closely the two concerns for me with him, are firstly very poor foot skills and secondly he looks like a man amongst boys and he plays with grunt and little flair, he isnt that clean either by hand.

Freddy, I like a lot and I think is a really good prospect in the 1 - 5 range.

A player that caught my eye due to the fact that he made really good decisions and hit most of his targets was Harley Barker from Sturt.
A one touch clean footballer.
I am looking forward to watching him closer at the champs for SA.

Its only early days but i was pretty underwhelmed with the Academy kids as a collective, and Fu(k me all the kids that did impress me greatly are already tide to the Northern States Academys.

Here's Greeve's plays from today. 24 touches, 6 clearances and 4 inside 50's is a decent day out against a good VFL outfit.

 

[braddalzielleoursaviour]

Anyone else think Fred is too slow for a man his height. We need some dynamism in this midfield.

 

[Monocle]

Here's Greeve's plays from today. 24 touches, 6 clearances and 4 inside 50's is a decent day out against a good VFL outfit.

Agree he had a very good day out, just not yet convinced that translates to the next level.

Would love to be proven wrong as his ball winning ability was impressive.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

Agree he had a very good day out, just not yet convinced that translates to the next level.

Would love to be proven wrong as his ball winning ability was impressive.

I hadn't paid much attention to Greeves as had narrowed on players I wanted us to take. I think this game today opened up possibilities. Rodriguez, Sharp and Duursma didn't improve their stocks today (at least in terms of genuine mid credentials) and guys like Greeves did themselves no harm.

Will be a fun 6 months between now and draft night.

 

[Altum Volantes]

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Their words not mine…

To be fair on Baker, if the Muppet Show that makes up the rest of our senior players could give a committed 4 quarter effort like a certified midget in Baker manages, then I doubt we’d be utterly without hope right now.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

Their words not mine…

To be fair on Baker, if the Muppet Show that makes up the rest of our senior players could give a committed 4 quarter effort like a certified midget in Baker manages, then I doubt we’d be utterly without hope right now.

Yep. We know what we're dealing with - a club hierarchy who flips and flops and tries to build a perception rather than aa reality.

Baker had a good year at Richmond last year but didn't move the dial. What made people think he'd move the dial here? All I see, is one less player on our list who might have ended up elite.

People think Nizzy was bad, this mob is worse.

 

[Priddis Is Done]

Masterstroke from Darling leaving.

Leaving this shitshow and getting a few more years of a career.

 

[YeoGabbaGabba]

 

[Patron]

Duursma is not going to be the best player available imo. I'm wary of all the Duursma's now as they seem to be star younger players and then struggle with the step up. They become good but not great players.

The club needs a clear focus on skills, speed, the ability to cleanly get the loose ball and read the play.

The AFL seems determined to let players just drop the ball to keep the game moving and it's making the game a joke.

I get your point, it's something i've mused with in my head as well, but ultimately it's a bit unfair to write off a family like that.
For every Adam Selwood there's a Joel Selwood.
For every Corey Warner there's a Chad Warner.
For every Nathan Abblett there's a Gary jnr...

Need to judge a player by their own merits, unless they all end up having ACL's or something by the time they are 23 (obvious genetic issues).

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

I get your point, it's something i've mused with in my head as well, but ultimately it's a bit unfair to write off a family like that.
For every Adam Selwood there's a Joel Selwood.
For every Corey Warner there's a Chad Warner.
For every Nathan Abblett there's a Gary jnr...

Need to judge a player by their own merits, unless they all end up having ACL's or something by the time they are 23 (obvious genetic issues).

For every Harry Barnett their is a Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm-Flailing Tubeman too

 

[beagles]

Yep. We know what we're dealing with - a club hierarchy who flips and flops and tries to build a perception rather than aa reality.

Baker had a good year at Richmond last year but didn't move the dial. What made people think he'd move the dial here? All I see, is one less player on our list who might have ended up elite.

People think Nizzy was bad, this mob is worse.

Yes enough with the Richmond experiment, go to the draft and no more trading in spuds.

We are getting thumped so play the kids, let them learn on the job. The older guys can sit in the WAFL.

 

[beagles]

Yes enough with the Richmond experiment, go to the draft and no more trading in spuds.

We are getting thumped so play the kids, let them learn on the job. The older guys can sit in the WAFL.

Just frustrated that we don't have enough genuine talent on our list to be competitive

 

[twce13]

Last year draft class the top mids had weaknesses.

This year mid draft clubs the top mids have weakness but no stand up attributes...


Jagga had insane agility. Draper has speed and burst. Langford was a pure ball pig. Murphy Reid pure silk.

So let me get this straight, sharp.. who you have been comparing to the second coming of Jesus since last draft, all of a sudden is a part of a crop of midfielders with no stand out attributes, after half a game of footy.

Your knees must be fkd from jerking so much.

 

[twce13]

Caught up with some ex WCE staff tonight, that are still involved with the club.

Nice intimate backyard evening.

Reid is gone. Doesn't want to be here

From all reports no one actually knows what Harley is thinking. Yet your ex staff pals are in the know... Righto.

 

[Broken_Chairs]

I also spoke to a current staff member whos family, in a behind the scenes role.
Didn't say he was staying and didn't say he was but was pretty clear that the club is trying their hardest to convince him of the long term vision. He said at this stage it seems a long shot of getting signature from him but you never know.

So they said what the club has been saying publicly?

 

[Jaspar24]

It’s actually at a point now with Harley were I reckon just trade the lad. The media circus probably isn’t a great thing for the team and the young developing players who want to stay on.

 

[twce13]

It’s actually at a point now with Harley were I reckon just trade the lad. The media circus probably isn’t a great thing for the team and the young developing players who want to stay on.

So let media dictate how we approach list management ? How about we let the club do their own thing and fooooook the media clowns.

 

[Total_Juddshanks]

Yep. We know what we're dealing with - a club hierarchy who flips and flops and tries to build a perception rather than aa reality.

Baker had a good year at Richmond last year but didn't move the dial. What made people think he'd move the dial here? All I see, is one less player on our list who might have ended up elite.

People think Nizzy was bad, this mob is worse.

The way they were talking about Baker when they were chasing him was borderline delusional, like he was Chris Judd, Patrick Dangerfield and the ghost of Gordon Coventry rolled into one, rather than what he is, which is a good ordinary player with an excellent attitude, certainly the sort of guy who finishes top 10 in the b&f but not AA, not good enough to play on ball, and not remotely worth half the picks they traded for him. At some.point that trade became more about generating optimism for this season and satisfying their fantasy that west coast was still a destination club capable of landing a ‘big fish’, and as soon as that became the approach they were always going to get trade way more than he was worth.

You can tell that by the latter half of last year don pyke and the board were living in a sort of alternate reality where the poor onfield form was just a sort of blip that could be easily fixed by a few personnel changes, where west coast was still a 'power club' that applicants would be clamouring to coach, where they were the smartest recruiters in the room who would pillage the draft through their time honoured method of trading down, selecting good west aussie talent, where signings like Hunt/Flynn/Brockman/Graham were astute recruiting moves rather than picking up trash noone else wanted, and where a few key trades and a new coach would restore us to a competitive top 8 team, the toast of the West Australian back page and a club Harley would be falling over to sign at. Nothing fractured that delusion, even when pretty much every potential coach they'd hoped to recruit ruled themselves out rather than even interview for what was clearly a poison chalice job.

The reality is our midfield is absolutely the worst in the AFL by a long margin, there is nowhere near enough young talent coming through to fix that, and more generally there are about 6-8 regulars in our 22 who are so far below AFL standard they would not get a 1 year contract at any other clubs if we delisted them. They didn't want to recognise that because it requires acceptance that they've made some terrible decisions in recent years, and that really all they've done is delayed the pain of a full rebuild. Now reality is smacking them in the head and hopefully its finally sinking in that they need to make long term decisions and start the full, long term rebuild that should have begun at least 1 season ago.

 

[Mattman93]

Don't be so glass half empty; remember we didn't just trade for Baker, the maneuverer also enabled us to land Jack Graham

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Jack Graham

Age

27

Ht

181cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.7

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

6.8

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

6.3

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

11.8

3star

K

5.3

2star

HB

6.5

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

4.2

5star

CL

1.2

4star

D

14.0

4star

K

6.0

3star

HB

8.0

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

7.0

5star

CL

3.2

5star

and a third round meat and potatoes midfield prospect.

We've got Hall, Gross, Hutchinson, and I'm confident Bo Allan will eventually be able to get more than 20 touches in a match. Add to that 2-3 more picks in the 40s and I doubt there's a midfield going around that will be able to to match us.

 

[Shueygod]

Don't be so glass half empty; remember we didn't just trade for Baker, the maneuverer also enabled us to land Jack Graham and a third round meat and potatoes midfield prospect.

We've got Hall, Gross, Hutchinson, and I'm confident Bo Allan will eventually be able to get more than 20 touches in a match. Add to that 2-3 more picks in the 40s and I doubt there's a midfield going around that will be able to to match us.

He had more than 20 in his one and only WAFL game those season. Does Gross look like a meat and potatoes prospect based on what we’ve seen thus far?

 

[We_The_West]

Gross looks like Zac Butters but with a harder head