List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Edition

[Keys]

The Contracts Thread

Current contract status (Updated 26/6/24) : Total 45 Players - Main List (37) Rookie List (6) Cat B (2) Contracted to 2027 (3) : Tom Barrass (8/10/95) - Signed a 5 year extension (2023-27) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in December 2021 Reuben Ginbey (10/9/04) - Signed a 3 year...

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[Barrybran]

If the resources aren't put in to developing a talent pool, that will affect every team, because if one talent pool diminishes, all clubs will look to get their talent from other pools. So there's less talent over all, spread much more thinly.

I've no issue having to pay full market value. There's never been an argument from me about keeping the 20% discount.


I can think of 5 players over a 10 year period. Heeney, Mills, Blakey, Gulden and Campbell. And just remembered there was a who moment last draft, Caiden Cleary.

That's pretty much the system I have described in posts last night.

The Sydney part was tongue in cheek

 

[briztoon]

He posted six in a row - surely that's a record.

Because I hadn't been on all day.

And if he spends this amount of time on the WC board, surely he would spend more time on the Brissie board.

Yes.

Also, the Brisbane board is about as busy as this thread most days.

Does he have a job?

Yes.

 

[stylish]

Because I hadn't been on all day.

Yes.

Yes.

Wow. Are you married with kids?

 

[Elite Pete]

Also...

LMFAO at Elite Pete. The anti xInfected_Virus.

Just Anti troll

 

[twce13]

He posted six in a row - surely that's a record.

And if he spends this amount of time on the WC board, surely he would spend more time on the Brissie board.

Does he have a job?

He is an educator...


..he educates the wc board on all things AFL. God bless.

 

[briztoon]

Wow. Are you married with kids?

Yes.

And if you stopped quoting me, I'd have less to reply to.

 

[Wormkilla]

Absolute madness to sign Yeo on again. I’m hearing $800k a year. He’ll be lucky to play another 30 games in his whole career. $30,000+ per game and a list spot taken up by another player past it. Just another horror list management story from the Eagles. Finals is over a decade away.

 

[Elite Pete]

The sliding doors moment was the AFL changing NGA matching.

Which is why the AFL is looking to change matching.

It’s only a leg up if your academy is producing that number of kids, at that quality.

We have only had 1 first round academy bid, he wasn’t top 10. And most posters here like giving him sh!t.

Every other academy kid we have or had, has been bid on in the second or third round, or we’ve drafted ourselves late in the draft or rookie draft.

NB. Obviously we’ve had a little more luck recently with father sons. But that’s random as everyone keeps saying.

It’s a leg up no matter what way you try and sell it.

QLD and NSW have produced stars long before the academies were in places.

 

[Keys]

I disagree as it is clubs rorting a very inequitable set of rules that highly compromises the draft.by getting top end talent for a few late 30 or later picks

You’ll get no argument from me that the current rules are a rort and need changing

But the AFL have a track record of implementing changes on short notice and this is no exception

Clubs put a lot of effort into planning into the future so when changes are mad with little lead time to adjust it’s simply unprofessional

 

[flamingEMBERS]

I can think of 5 players over a 10 year period. Heeney, Mills, Blakey, Gulden and Campbell. And just remembered there was a who moment last draft, Caiden Cleary.

First four you listed are their best players….

 

[Bestbird]

You’ll get no argument from me that the current rules are a rort and need changing

But the AFL have a track record of implementing changes on short notice and this is no exception

Clubs put a lot of effort into planning into the future so when changes are mad with little lead time to adjust it’s simply unprofessional

True but most of that planning is dealing with late 30s and beyond draft picks.

The unprofessional part is the AFL allowing the obvious rort to go on for so long. It took till Gold Coast scenario last year for it finally became a major issue

 

[Elite Pete]

You’ll get no argument from me that the current rules are a rort and need changing

But the AFL have a track record of implementing changes on short notice and this is no exception

Clubs put a lot of effort into planning into the future so when changes are mad with little lead time to adjust it’s simply unprofessional

Richmond definitely disadvantaged because you can see they tried to stockpile picks to move up.

The others, you can’t trade for the 11 months between trade periods. Neither the Blues or Lions traded out their first round pick the year before like the Pies did with Daicos. They will also still get an advantage to get their FS or academy players this year if they change the rules, hopefully it just won’t be the rort it’s been for the last decade.

 

[Elite Pete]

True but most of that planning is dealing with late 30s and beyond draft picks.

The unprofessional part is the AFL allowing the obvious rort to go on for so long. It took till Gold Coast scenario last year for it finally became a major issue

Yep, getting 4 picks last year before the spooner got their 2nd and miss out on academy kid due to moving back 12 positions. Then to use their 2023 draft hand to trade back a year to get another 2 first round picks. 7 first round calibre players in 2 years….. don’t understand all the tears about teams having to pay a fairish prize.

 

[Elite Pete]

If the resources aren't put in to developing a talent pool, that will affect every team, because if one talent pool diminishes, all clubs will look to get their talent from other pools. So there's less talent over all, spread much more thinly.

I've no issue having to pay full market value. There's never been an argument from me about keeping the 20% discount.


I can think of 5 players over a 10 year period. Heeney, Mills, Blakey, Gulden and Campbell. And just remembered there was a who moment last draft, Caiden Cleary.

That's pretty much the system I have described in posts last night.

Cleary? Wasn’t who for many and he was rated in Cals top 25…

 

[briztoon]

First four you listed are their best players….

What about Chad?

That's good for them, they don't have to worry about Vics poaching their best players and them being a feeder club.

 

[ArdentEagle]

He is an educator...


..he educates the wc board on all things AFL. God bless.

I genuinely had to read the first line 3 times . (very tired today)

 

[briztoon]

Yep, getting 4 picks last year before the spooner got their 2nd and miss out on academy kid due to moving back 12 positions. Then to use their 2023 draft hand to trade back a year to get another 2 first round picks. 7 first round calibre players in 2 years….. don’t understand all the tears about teams having to pay a fairish prize.

Where are the tears?

 

[Elite Pete]

Where are the tears?

On every form of Media…..

 

[Elite Pete]

Pyke stating we are going to be aggressive. Love it.

 

[Boohemian]

Pyke stating we are going to be aggressive. Love it.

Lol, ok. Aggressive in what sense?

 

[Elite Pete]

Lol, ok. Aggressive in what sense?

Free agency and trades

 

[UseR2006]

 

[TerryFilk]

That’s both Pyke and Bell now who’ve pretty much publicly said we’d love to have Chad here. In the past we usually don’t speculate on other teams players, I still think Warner is unlikely but at least it’s clear we’ll have a red hot crack at him.

 

[bzparkes]

That’s both Pyke and Bell now who’ve pretty much publicly said we’d love to have Chad here. In the past we usually don’t speculate on other teams players, I still think Warner is unlikely but at least it’s clear we’ll have a red hot crack at him.

Any team would say that when asked about a gun potentially moving to their club.

He'd have said the same thing if asked about Nick Daicos.

Nisbett said the same about Jackson, Bell about Kelly, etc.

 

[stylish]

Yes.

And if you stopped quoting me, I'd have less to reply to.

And stop you from doing what you obviously adore - helping us mere WC supporters think about how we should address certain issues.