List Mgmt. Collingwood Trade and FA

[Pistol Night]

Waiting for cornes- we don’t get Houston and go to draft

“ Collingwood are in no man’s land what are they doing for the now?”

We get Houston
“Collingwood are in no man’s land what are they doing for the future?”

Seems Every player we get in must be on a one year contract then retiring

Cornes and Edmund on tradio this morning? Think i might go slam my old fella in the fridge door a few times as it would be more enjoyable

 

[NMBB]

Just the way he words everything. Why are Carlton flogs in the media such knobs

Flog to knob is not very far

 

[JuniorB]

Don’t shift the goal posts. Whether or not he was having a decent game is separate to your original statement of “he was almost a premiership player”.

Plenty of crap footballers have become premiership players, playing on a grand final doesn’t magically make you better than you really are.

Yeah, Big Billy is no star, but he's got a medal.

 

[doofdoof]

I hate to compare with the NFL, but NFL teams just get on with the trades. They don't f**k around, they don't waste time getting into d**k measuring contests, they are ruthless and efficient with trades. Wish we had that kind of mentality in the AFL.

NHL, NBA, EPL etc all the same.

Biggest difference is that most of the time players have no say in what club they are traded to, regardless of their preference (unless they have an NTC)

 

[cfc19902010]

pressure will also be building on Gold Coast

Nobles manager on the phone to suns
“You guys really wanted him , what’s going on”

 

[Anzacday]

It's all about distinguishing between which players are worth paying overs for.

For an elite player like Houston that we haven't been able to attract since Buckley - Yes

For an above average role player like Schultz in a position we have an abundance of talent - No

We should've played hardball last year and if we kept our first this year I would've happily offered 2x firsts for Houston with a F2 coming back for McGuane points.

Agree, the type of player justifies the spend.
However, I’m not going down the woulda, coulda, shoulda path.
Neither is Leppa, he’s focussing on the now and the future.

 

[jakson68]

I am just glad we are not dealing with a hard arse clubs like Hawthorn or Geelong.

They would sell pick 13 to the highest offer and say to us "here is 23 for Noble"
And we would just take that.

Perryman, Houston and points for Tommy next year is a win for this trade period.
The draft is strong but as we all know, it is still hit or miss at best.

Lets not get too greedy and have the rug pulled out from under us, as I would rather be on the nicer side of fair and get the result, than play hardball and get SFA.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

Considering they tried to get him last year and have offered him a 4(?) year deal, they're being quite demanding.

Well that’s just it isn’t it?

How often do players request a trade to Gold Coast?

Pretty sure you can count the number of occasions on one hand.

Not only that, it’s a player at his prime asking to go there from a Premiership team with a good culture.

It’s basically all Gold Coast could ask for really. So you’d think they’d be wanting to get the deal done more than they’re letting on

 

[josewales]

Could come cheap, is young, would be an upgrade on Bytel, Sullivan, Long - has been on the fringe at the Lions and with the Ashcroft brothers and co. is making the right decision.
From the lions website

"In and out of the side early in 2023, Deven Roberston took his chance in the middle of the season with both hands lining up for 13 home and away games and all three finals, including the Grand Final. A hard-running midfielder, Robertson was the Lions first pick in the 2019 NAB AFL Draft with selection 22. The 22-year-old re-committed to the Club for two years to remain at the Lions until the end of 2025 season. A consistent performer at AFL level, Robertson will be looking to cement his spot in the side in 2024."

 

[josewales]

pressure will also be building on Gold Coast

Nobles manager on the phone to suns
“You guys really wanted him , what’s going on”

Not just his manager - They have Hardwick to answer to as well

 

[cakewalk06]

Sorry but those supporters who say they don't care if we get Houston or not don't understand football. Our window is now. He is one of the best half backs in the comp and makes us instantly better. I understand a first-round pick helps us in 2-5 years and I also don't just want to fall from a cliff like Richmond. However, with trading rules being changed this will make it easier to rebuild quick. Free agents available ect. Also, a decent father and son. I want to be the first to 17. I grow up listening to Essendon and Carlton supporters only argument was how many premierships have you won. Was 14, then 15 and now 16. Would love to shave it up their asses and be the first to 17.

I concur with much of this but I am NOT shaving anyone’s ass.

 

[Anzacday]

If Dan still wants to get to us, Connors will get it done

 

[cfc19902010]

Not just his manager - They have Hardwick to answer to as well

That’s right
And list manager etc
And it all filters through

 

[gtrain23]

If Dan still wants to get to us, Connors will get it done

don't they usually have a few player managers on during the trade period?

 

[SchuPie]

I decided not to come in here over the weekend since the post / test from Pickering
Only 54 more pages since then.

Everyone ok?

 

[WakeUpPies]

Don’t screw it up Pies. If we prioritize the draft picks we’d be praying they turn out to be half as good as Houston … by the time half our side has retired!

 

[NMBB]

I decided not to come in here over the weekend since the post / test from Pickering
Only 54 more pages since then.

Everyone ok?

There's a few who have appointments booked if it all falls over - Bali, Rosebud Hotel, Croxton Arms, Tahiti etc





even...........

 

[Kes1984]

wow - do some other stuff on the weekend and come back to an amount of unread pages that I'll never catch up!!

 

[NMBB]

wow - do some other stuff on the weekend and come back to an amount of unread pages that I'll never catch up!!

What do you mean........ "other stuff"?

 

[gouki88]

wow - do some other stuff on the weekend and come back to an amount of unread pages that I'll never catch up!!

That'll teach you to have a life outside of BigFooty

 

[Ugene41]

I decided not to come in here over the weekend since the post / test from Pickering
Only 54 more pages since then.

Everyone ok?

IQ is not ok

 

[Matt_352]

wow - do some other stuff on the weekend and come back to an amount of unread pages that I'll never catch up!!

The audacity to have a life outside of BigFooty haha you haven't missed much

 

[VinnieB]

If Dan still wants to get to us, Connors will get it done

A good start would be Dan informing Port he wants to go to Collingwood only.

 

[bucksisbest]

Could come cheap, is young, would be an upgrade on Bytel, Sullivan, Long - has been on the fringe at the Lions and with the Ashcroft brothers and co. is making the right decision.
From the lions website

"In and out of the side early in 2023, Deven Roberston took his chance in the middle of the season with both hands lining up for 13 home and away games and all three finals, including the Grand Final. A hard-running midfielder, Robertson was the Lions first pick in the 2019 NAB AFL Draft with selection 22. The 22-year-old re-committed to the Club for two years to remain at the Lions until the end of 2025 season. A consistent performer at AFL level, Robertson will be looking to cement his spot in the side in 2024."

How many games has he had more than 20 disposals ?

 

[Ugene41]

Agree, the type of player justifies the spend.
However, I’m not going down the woulda, coulda, shoulda path.
Neither is Leppa, he’s focussing on the now and the future.

Yea, I guess what I'm saying is that it would hardly be looking after our "future" if we miss out on Houston because we're determined to play hardball on taking our first pick at 23 instead of 36 or later.

We've already "mortgaged" our future after trading away our first rounder this year for Schultz. We're not "saving" our future by refusing to pay for Houston. We don't have a draft hand already so there's nothing really that we can give up this year for Houston that changes our future.