List Mgmt. COLLINGWOOD Trade and F/A Discussion

[loki04]

I mean Hawthorn did but I still don't think it's the only way to skin the cat

Geelong did too bar Hawkins. Scarlett, Harley, and traded in Mooney and Ottens before hitting 00 and 01 drafts on mids/hbf

We kinda did as well for 2010 team. Loaded up in 1 draft that was kpp rich and got cloke earlier.

 

[Crazy Tails]

For all of those that liked Sam Skinner

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Sam Skinner

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27

Ht

197cm

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99kg

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D/F

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9.0

2star

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4.0

2star

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5.0

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1.0

1star

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3.0

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101.0

2star

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9.0

3star

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4.0

2star

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5.0

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1.0

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3.0

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101.0

2star

; you can cross him off your wishlist. Going to Port as a delisted FA.

 

[Apples]

And going off his face he looks it, less puppy fat looking.

As Lou would say, he's a real he-man!

 

[whiskeytown]

For all of those that liked Sam Skinner; you can cross him off your wishlist. Going to Port as a delisted FA.

Liked him as an option.

But when you’ve got Magden, Murphy, Wilson, Kelly, Keane...

who needs a 195cm 97kg intercept marker?

 

[snagbreac]

Adams is always taking kicks during games. Therefore his kicking is a strength.

This is fun. Who can come up with some other stupid statements?

I still maintain he'd be a good forward if given the chance.

 

[loki04]

Liked him as an option.

But when you’ve got Magden, Murphy, Wilson, Kelly, Keane...

who needs a 195cm 97kg intercept marker?

Every year that goes by that list of names is getting worse and worse to the eye.

3 of them are slow pokes (Madge, Murphy and wilson), 2 injury prone (Kelly, Murphy) and a 3rd who has been given a baptism of fire and looked shaky (Keane).

 

[whiskeytown]

Every year that goes by that list of names is getting worse and worse to the eye.

3 of them are slow pokes (Madge, Murphy and wilson), 2 injury prone (Kelly, Murphy) and a 3rd who has been given a baptism of fire and looked shaky (Keane).

Add in Roughead and Howes age... and it’s really only Moore that’s the guaranteed intercept marker down back over the next 3-5 years.

They really need to pull their finger out and break in some further talent

 

[jatsad]

2 talls have been picked up in the delisted free agengy period.
Skinner would have been a good option down back as he is a very good intercept mark.
Someone has to be primed to take over from Roughy.
Hope GW has something in mind.

 

[Go Woods]

Grundy. Hear me out on this one.

Grundy plays forward/ruck to utilise his marking ability.

Cameron plays at HF.

If Cox comes back, then he plays as a tap ruckman, less time forward.

Grundy can’t mark overhead.

 

[legendstatus]

Grundy can’t mark overhead.

He couldn't catch a cold. shit marking technique - swings his arms for lift!

 

[soreplums]

Not sure its a worry. He is very ruckman like in his marking. Rucks these days are not major marking targets as a rule.

Looking at his stats compared to Gawn, Goldy, Ryder and Witts, I chose those 4 as the best comparisons. Gawn as expected best 4.4 marks per game and 2.0 contested. Grundy 3.6 and 0.9 career wise. Ryder and Goldy similar numbers to Grudy and Witts a bit behind. His marking isnt a weapon but it isnt a worry.

The issue for me is the ones he should take but just drops or gets out marked.

 

[soreplums]

I still maintain he'd be a good forward if given the chance.

Would definitely improve our F50 pressure.

 

[Gone Critical]

The issue for me is the ones he should take but just drops or gets out marked.

That’s almost every ruckman. There are no Gary Dempseys anymore

 

[Baird]

Who are we getting next year

 

[snagbreac]

Who are we getting next year

Next year will see the club rid themselves of the burden of Jordan de Goey's salary and indeed the man himself, gain a few top draft picks and work on gaining a FA. A few fringe sorts like Lippa would be a handy addition. There should also be a few noteable retirements such as Sidey and indeed Roughead. So a defender and a few midfielders would be helpful.

In addition to this, there are several players walking with delisting targets on their backs. Players such as Nathan Murphy, both Brown bros, Madgen, Chugg and Cox.

 

[Baird]

Next year will see the club rid themselves of the burden of Jordan de Goey's salary and indeed the man himself, gain a few top draft picks and work on gaining a FA. A few fringe sorts like Lippa would be a handy addition. There should also be a few noteable retirements such as Sidey and indeed Roughead. So a defender and a few midfielders would be helpful.

In addition to this, there are several players walking with delisting targets on their backs. Players such as Nathan Murphy, both Brown bros, Madgen, Chugg and Cox.

”A few top draft picks” Does that mean Moore and Maynard are leaving?

 

[snagbreac]

”A few top draft picks” Does that mean Moore and Maynard are leaving?

No but others might. I would imagine Wrighty is working on a draft re-stock next year. Thinking three in the Top 25-30. We could achieve that via a JDG compo/other, a trade of some description.

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

Clubs confirm seven AFL rookies set to be upgraded to the primary list

Two Blues, a premiership Demon and a reliable Saint are among those getting moved to the primary list.

www.sen.com.au

Interesting - seems like Noble won't be promoted yet.

On SM-G981B using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[TradeDraft]

 

[Bussie]

The issue for me is the ones he should take but just drops or gets out marked.

My issue is the same as yours, but also he's paid a million bucks a year to let us watch him drop them. Then again, this is our problem, not his!

 

[snagbreac]

Clubs confirm seven AFL rookies set to be upgraded to the primary list

Two Blues, a premiership Demon and a reliable Saint are among those getting moved to the primary list.

www.sen.com.au

Interesting - seems like Noble won't be promoted yet.

On SM-G981B using BigFooty.com mobile app

Perhaps they're intending to take someone in the SSP or an UFA? Dib still remains every possibility.

 

[Lings of Geelong]

Clubs confirm seven AFL rookies set to be upgraded to the primary list

Two Blues, a premiership Demon and a reliable Saint are among those getting moved to the primary list.

www.sen.com.au

Interesting - seems like Noble won't be promoted yet.

On SM-G981B using BigFooty.com mobile app

If he was promoted now, wouldn't we only have 5 senior list spots open prior to the draft?

You'd think we'll draft Daicos + 2 others, then promote Noble to make it 36 seniors. Then rookie draft Chugg + one other to make it 5 Cat A rookies, leaving one spot for the 2022 mid-season draft.

 

[Fat Jesus]

Cats just picked up Tyson Stengle

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Tyson Stengle

Age

26

Ht

175cm

Wt

71kg

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Fwd

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9.3

2star

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5.8

2star

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3.5

3star

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1.8

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2.4

4star

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1.1

4star

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10.3

3star

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5.3

2star

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5.0

3star

M

1.3

1star

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2.0

3star

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0.5

4star

D

8.8

3star

K

5.6

3star

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3.2

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.6

4star

G

1.6

5star

.

 

[Jen2310]

Cats just picked up Tyson Stengle.

he already looks 10 years older in that guernsey lol

 

[sr36]

Not sure its a worry. He is very ruckman like in his marking. Rucks these days are not major marking targets as a rule.

Looking at his stats compared to Gawn, Goldy, Ryder and Witts, I chose those 4 as the best comparisons. Gawn as expected best 4.4 marks per game and 2.0 contested. Grundy 3.6 and 0.9 career wise. Ryder and Goldy similar numbers to Grudy and Witts a bit behind. His marking isnt a weapon but it isnt a worry.

Steele Sidebottom averages over 5. Raw marks numbers are often about outrunning your opponent rather than being about good in a marking contest. Grundy is our go to long down the line option and is thus in a lot of marking contests, yet averages less than 1 contested Mark a game. He's not a good mark, but does provide a good contest.