Speculation Christian Petracca [UFA 2029]

[Mich0]

lol @ people complaining about his contract.

If you don’t pay your best player a good sum who the **** else you going to pay it to instead? Bloke was rated 4th in the league in champion data for the year up until his injury.

“Nah let’s pay some VFL bloke more instead with the cash we save”.

Cap is there for your best players. Pretty dumb take.

 

[SuburbanMe]

Don't think anyone pegged us

No-one has ever Pegged me, that much I can assure you of.

 

[Sammy1992]

https://www.theroar.com.au/2024/03/31/former-dees-doctor-turned-whistleblower-defends-afls-drugs-policy-reveals-reason-for-going-public-with-bombshell-claims/amp/

This story at the start of the year supports this Petracca mess atm. Goodwin is a flog who is ruining the club.

 

[Yummy5454]

Yeah but it's not like they're bottoming out. They have a decent list building they just lack star power. Trac could help change their fortunes. Maybe he doesn't want that pressure? Seems weird to me.

There’s no significant difference in list quality from Melbourne to Essendon. Essendon’s problem isn’t a lack of star power, it’s a lack of culture / belief / mental fortitude

Petracca doesn’t want to be the saviour anymore. He wants to be surrounded by equally committed, quality players on a bona fide contender i.e Carlton

 

[EBERT THE KING]

If Essendon werent such a basket case something like this ticks a lot of boxes:

Melbourne give: Christian Petracca

5

Christian Petracca

Age

28

Ht

187cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.4

5star

K

9.5

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

3.0

5star

CL

2.5

4star

D

24.4

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

14.0

5star

M

3.5

3star

T

3.6

4star

CL

3.4

4star

D

19.0

5star

K

7.8

3star

HB

11.2

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.0

4star

Melbourne get: Pick 2, Pick 8, Will Phillips

North Melbourne give: Pick 2, Will Phillips
North Melbourne get: Nate Caddy, Pick 28

Essendon give: Nate Caddy, Pick 8, Pick 28
Essendon get: Christian Petracca

5

Christian Petracca

Age

28

Ht

187cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.4

5star

K

9.5

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

3.0

5star

CL

2.5

4star

D

24.4

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

14.0

5star

M

3.5

3star

T

3.6

4star

CL

3.4

4star

D

19.0

5star

K

7.8

3star

HB

11.2

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.0

4star

 

[Stamos]

lol @ people complaining about his contract.

If you don’t pay your best player a good sum who the **** else you going to pay it to instead? Bloke was rated 4th in the league in champion data for the year up until his injury.

“Nah let’s pay some VFL bloke more instead with the cash we save”.

Cap is there for your best players. Pretty dumb take.

He signed his contract 3 and a half years ago when he was 25.

Anybody taking on his contract is getting a 29 year old recovering from a traumatic injury.
So you would be getting the worst years of his contract without getting the 2 best years. That's if he recovers fully and gets back to his best.

Edit: typo, the contract was signed 3 and a half years ago, not 2

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

The issue with getting this across the line is the AFLPA stance on not trading contracts. The player being traded out will have to agree to the deal, there is no incentive for any top line player that Melbourne will demand to change clubs and move to a ‘toxic’ culture, especially when it’s within the same state and can’t even use the go home factor as leverage.

So will be basically left with draft picks and uncontracted players.

Would Carlton’s 24 1st, 2nd & 25 1st get it done? Unlikely but that’s prob about as good as we are capable of offering, could throw in Matt Owies or OOC in 25 players like Kennedy or Hewett but those are not likely to shift the needle

 

[Bagger72]

If we are going to give all that trade capital away may as well give it to WCE for Harley Reid not a 29 y.o.

Reid can learn off Crippa for 3-5 years.

 

[Bluelegs]

If we are going to give all that trade capital away may as well give it to WCE for Harley Reid not a 29 y.o.

Reid can learn off Crippa for 3-5 years.

We couldn't get that deal over the line before he'd even been drafted. Carlton aren't going to do it with worse picks now that he's proven he can play at the level.

 

[JayJ20]

If Essendon werent such a basket case something like this ticks a lot of boxes:

Melbourne give: Christian Petracca
Melbourne get: Pick 2, Pick 8, Will Phillips

North Melbourne give: Pick 2, Will Phillips
North Melbourne get: Nate Caddy, Pick 28

Essendon give: Nate Caddy, Pick 8, Pick 28
Essendon get: Christian Petracca

We'd be even more of a basket case if we did that trade. We may as well fold the club if we trade Nate Caddy and pick 8 for a 29 y/o.

I'd have done Parish, Wright and Cox/Jones for Petracca because Bryan, Wright, Caddy, Jones, Cox and Draper cannot all fit in the one side. Perhaps Stringer instead of Cox/Jones. This is provided they want to continue chasing a premiership.

If they want to use Petracca to rebuild, then we're out of it because we need to bring in good young players. If I'm honest, I'd prefer trading Parish for draft picks more than Petracca.

 

[JayJ20]

If we are going to give all that trade capital away may as well give it to WCE for Harley Reid not a 29 y.o.

Reid can learn off Crippa for 3-5 years.

Yeah if we want a marquee player, I'd much prefer throwing the cash and picks at Harley Reid.

 

[stallon]

If we are going to give all that trade capital away may as well give it to WCE for Harley Reid not a 29 y.o.

Reid can learn off Crippa for 3-5 years.

Difference is Reid isnt gettable

 

[boncer34]

If Essendon werent such a basket case something like this ticks a lot of boxes:

Melbourne give: Christian Petracca
Melbourne get: Pick 2, Pick 8, Will Phillips

North Melbourne give: Pick 2, Will Phillips
North Melbourne get: Nate Caddy, Pick 28

Essendon give: Nate Caddy, Pick 8, Pick 28
Essendon get: Christian Petracca

Hahahahaha

No.

 

[Bagger72]

Difference is Reid isnt gettable

He shouldn't be either - but for that type of trade capital thats the only type of player you would target

 

[DesertRoo]

If Essendon werent such a basket case something like this ticks a lot of boxes:

Melbourne give: Christian Petracca
Melbourne get: Pick 2, Pick 8, Will Phillips

North Melbourne give: Pick 2, Will Phillips
North Melbourne get: Nate Caddy, Pick 28

Essendon give: Nate Caddy, Pick 8, Pick 28
Essendon get: Christian Petracca

We’re not giving a leg up to ****ing Essendon…
Essentially you want us to trade pick 2 for Caddy to help them..

 

[boncer34]

He signed his contract 2 and a half years ago when he was 25.

Anybody taking on his contract is getting a 29 year old recovering from a traumatic injury.
So you would be getting the worst years of his contract without getting the 2 best years. That's if he recovers fully and gets back to his best.

Maths ain't my strong point but how does he go from 25 to 29 in 2 and a half years?

 

[EBERT THE KING]

We’re not giving a leg up to ****ing Essendon…
Essentially you want us to trade pick 2 for Caddy to help them..

No, you trade pick 2 for Nate Caddy.

Who cares what Essendon do with it.

 

[EBERT THE KING]

Hahahahaha

No.

You brought in 4 recruits last year. You clearly think you are in the window.

This gets you serious.

 

[Scythe94]

Maths ain't my strong point but how does he go from 25 to 29 in 2 and a half years?

That's easy. He's 28 – though his age depends on whether the individual poster's club is looking at trading him in or not.

 

[Stamos]

Maths ain't my strong point but how does he go from 25 to 29 in 2 and a half years?

Typo, 3 and a half years ago.

 

[FootyGuru]

lol @ people complaining about his contract.

If you don’t pay your best player a good sum who the **** else you going to pay it to instead? Bloke was rated 4th in the league in champion data for the year up until his injury.

“Nah let’s pay some VFL bloke more instead with the cash we save”.

Cap is there for your best players. Pretty dumb take.

You said it. Up until injury.

 

[Vankri]

The issue with getting this across the line is the AFLPA stance on not trading contracts. The player being traded out will have to agree to the deal, there is no incentive for any top line player that Melbourne will demand to change clubs and move to a ‘toxic’ culture, especially when it’s within the same state and can’t even use the go home factor as leverage.

So will be basically left with draft picks and uncontracted players.

Would Carlton’s 24 1st, 2nd & 25 1st get it done? Unlikely but that’s prob about as good as we are capable of offering, could throw in Matt Owies or OOC in 25 players like Kennedy or Hewett but those are not likely to shift the needle

Two first and a second? I think that should get it done. After much customary posturing and back and fourth from the Dees of course. But after applying the age discount, ‘disgruntled player’ discount, ‘disgruntled playing group if he stays’ discount and ‘recent major injury’ discount, I don’t think it’s an unfair trade.

The question is can Carlton really fit his 5y 1.2m+ contract in the cap without trading one of their 1m+ players (and without brown paper bags)? I always assumed that the reason Carlton’s bottom 6 players on the ground are poorer than most teams’ is because their top liners have taken such a huge chunk of the cap that depth quality has dropped (not many teams with two 1m+ forwards running around and add Cripps, Weitering, Walsh and recent recruits to top it up).

 

[manureid]

I would have very big concerns paying up big for him after that injury and the mental toll it had on him. Could come back good as gold, but it is a big risk.

 

[Skipper_]

You brought in 4 recruits last year. You clearly think you are in the window.

This gets you serious.

The key here is we didn't give up any draft or player capital to bring any of them in.

There is no way we give up arguably our most prized young talent in Caddy and it's unlikely we part with our first this year.

 

[Bluelegs]

Two first and a second? I think that should get it done. After much customary posturing and back and fourth from the Dees of course. But after applying the age discount, ‘disgruntled player’ discount, ‘disgruntled playing group if he stays’ discount and ‘recent major injury’ discount, I don’t think it’s an unfair trade.

The question is can Carlton really fit his 5y 1.2m+ contract in the cap without trading one of their 1m+ players (and without brown paper bags)? I always assumed that the reason Carlton’s bottom 6 players on the ground are poorer than most teams’ is because their top liners have taken such a huge chunk of the cap that depth quality has dropped (not many teams with two 1m+ forwards running around and add Cripps, Weitering, Walsh and recent recruits to top it up).

Cerra would be the smokey in all this. Melbourne were into him but didn't have the picks when he left Freo.