Coach Chris Fagan - where is the scrutiny

[CrowToon]

Yeah I just don't see how he doesn't come under pressure.

Make all of the excuses about the list you like, it's the same story as Port. You gotta be accountable. Let's see if Brisbane are better run.

 

[kickazz]

Also gets away with having a bit of a nice guy reputation, yet is in charge of some serial offenders when it comes to the "faux toughness" stuff Nick Riewoldt spoke of tonight.

 

[werdna78]

Fluffed the golden opportunity when they couldn’t even make the GF when they had the finals in their backyard

The grand final is played in Melbourne nearly every year, why hasn't Carlton won it every year?

 

[maskmcgee]

Choked 3 years in a row and now half a dozen teams have gone past them/are heading past them in the next 12 months.

 

[Lionheart182]

1-5 finals record with all 5 of those teams making the Grand Final*. Bit unlucky but not quite good enough unfortuntely.

One of those losses was a prelim*

 

[BigVic]

Brisbane haven’t won a game at the MCG in 8 years

 

[Elmer_Judd]

The Lions have a good list to contend for a flag but have underachieved in the last 3 years.

Where is the pressure on Chris Fagan to deliver them success

Similar reasons to Kenny Hinkley at Port. Is a nice guy who is popular amongst the entrenched Melbourne media.

Mind you, Brisbane's list has more holes in it than Swiss Cheese, so i wouldn't give him the flick, would-shake up the footyand recruiting departments though

 

[RU_]

1-5 finals record with all 5 of those teams making the Grand Final*. Bit unlucky but not quite good enough unfortuntely.

One of those losses was a prelim*

Nah, this is a bullshit excuse.

The teams who have made the grand final have only had to beat one team after us because they are in a prelim.

Team is not good enough, clean out is needed and while I love what Fages has done for us I think his time is up as well. He’s not taking us to that final day in September.

 

[FFB1]

Brisbanes Premiership window closed tonight

Nah been closed since Melbourne taught us a lesson 2 months ago; if not before.

 

[Lionheart182]

Nah, this is a bullshit excuse.

The teams who have made the grand final have only had to beat one team after us because they are in a prelim.

Team is not good enough, clean out is needed and while I love what Fages has done for us I think his time is up as well. He’s not taking us to that final day in September.

What excuse are you referring to? I literally said we weren't good enough.

 

[KeilorUnder9s]

Nah been closed since Melbourne taught us a lesson 2 months ago; if not before.

That lesson didn’t sink in…

 

[MotlopMagic]

Great coach. Brisbane are over-achieving with that list.


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[JackFlash]

They will probably finish 6th and play Richmond in their 1st final. They will be massacred even in Brisbane, Fagan could be in strife very soon?

 

[RAPPA]

The grand final is played in Melbourne nearly every year, why hasn't Carlton won it every year?

At this rate, shambolic Carlton will make it sooner than the lions bridesmaids

 

[werdna78]

At this rate, shambolic Carlton will make it sooner than the lions bridesmaids

And so you should playing most of your games at the MCG and having the legendary Brisbabe player in Voss coaching.

 

[kaiserchief13]

Fagin is in denial. "But we had more inside 50s"

 

[Defabs]

The grand final is played in Melbourne nearly every year, why hasn't Carlton won it every year?

Only team under the current top 8 format since 2000 to host a PF against a side who finished 4th and lose! So yeah that was a massive choke.

Only 2 other sides who finished 4th have made a GF but they hosted the PF (Syd 2006, Collingwood 2002)

 

[THE EQUALIZER]

They have beaten semi-finalist written all over them in 2022.

 

[Rod Stroker]

Swanny now chasing Clarko to get in before Essendon

 

[RU_]

What excuse are you referring to? I literally said we weren't good enough.

Sorry, read it as an excuse referring to everyone we have played is an eventual grand finalist. They are only there because they beat us.

 

[Lionheart182]

Sorry, read it as an excuse referring to everyone we have played is an eventual grand finalist. They are only there because they beat us.

I haven’t looked back through history but how often does a team play both grand finalists in a finals series? We have in the last three finals series. It’s unlucky but can’t also mean we haven’t got a good enough team.

 

[RU_]

I haven’t looked back through history but how often does a team play both grand finalists in a finals series? We have in the last three finals series. It’s unlucky but can’t also mean we haven’t got a good enough team.

Didn’t happen in 2018, 2017, 2016 or 2015 off a quick research.

 

[fnerd]

Team just isn't that good honestly. Hard to criticise the coach when he took us from 15th to second in one season. Actually think he has done well to squeeze out a couple of good seasons with the current list.

Whilst I’m not a fagan fan I do think Brisbane is very overrated.
So for that he’s most likely got them as far as could really be expected, that said considering most of those finals were at home it’s also not a stretch to say they probably tanked a couple of those semis.
Not dissimilar to the cats of recent times.

I mean You actually go through their list and start looking at the players individually , in particular their midfield and it’s very much an average side sprinkled with a few decent A graders and that’s it.

A lot of their so called stars aren’t really top liners and in fact are quite flakey (Daniher/hipwood,Zorko, Rayner , Lyons etc) and it’s not hard to see why they consistently get shown up when the whips are cracking.

 

[greening22]

Joe Daniher.

The great white disappointment.

He is softer than butter. He exerts absolutely zero physical pressure on the opposition & goes missing when the heat in the game increases. Goodnight & goodluck.

 

[BigVic]

Can win W1 but will lose W2