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[sausageroll]

Yes, the SK winning is the risk for himself winning. It's the only way he can win by risking a SK win.

It's not a risk. It's a lock. 4 more deaths is the SK win condition and that's what you're asking Raz to do

 

[King Tenz]

Try think it through yourself You'll see

But did you think it through when you modkilled me on dodgy grounds?

 

[BEaston]

Coordinate kills on the village and you're handing the win to the SK.
Tenz killing you tonight is not negotiable. Raz hands the win to the SK tonight if he follows your plan.

Why is Tenz part in it non-negotiable, but Raz's isn't?

It's the combination that will decide the game.

 

[BEaston]

It's not a risk. It's a lock. 4 more deaths is the SK win condition and that's what you're asking Raz to do

No I'm asking him to kill, so then Tenz can decide.

 

[ZergMinion]

Heading out to pick up my daughter from work. My night action is in and can be considered locked.

 

[King Tenz]

When exactly is deadline thewizardmelon?

 

[BEaston]

Raz withholds: town win
Tenz witholds, Raz kills: Mafia/Wolves win
Tenz kills, Raz kills: SK wins


It's as simple as that. Raz can at least make it a 50% chance he wins.

 

[BEaston]

Tenz witholds, Raz kills: Village can also still win in this scenario actually too. zerg and dank know this.

Raz if you commit to killing one of jmoo/dank, they will direct Tenz to withhold.

 

[BEaston]

Honestly would be the greatest game I've played in if Raz won this considering what happened.

 

[dank420_]

Beaston trying to defeat the pureness of raz ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

 

[sausageroll]

No I'm asking him to kill, so then Tenz can decide.

There is no decision for Tenz. The decision is with the mafia and wolves.
If you choose to hand victory to SK then that's your choice.

 

[sausageroll]

Raz withholds: town win
Tenz witholds, Raz kills: Mafia/Wolves win
Tenz kills, Raz kills: SK wins


It's as simple as that. Raz can at least make it a 50% chance he wins.

Nice try

From the OP...

Wolves WIN CONDITION – Eliminate any Mafia, Vampires, Serial Killers and equal or outnumber the Village.
Mafia WIN CONDITION – Eliminate any Werewolves, Vampires, Serial Killers and equal or outnumber the Village

How do you think Raz will go eliminating the mafia when you have two mambers, including one unknown? You'll kill him off as soon as the village numbers are low enough.

The only way for mafia to win is to eliminate the wolves. He can't do that in your plan. It's not a shared win. It's a mafia win.

But it won't come to that, because under your plan, the SK wins tonight.

 

[BEaston]

There is no decision for Tenz. The decision is with the mafia and wolves.
If you choose to hand victory to SK then that's your choice.

So an evil kill helps sk wincon, but a town kill doesn't? Right.

Make that make sense plz.

 

[Raz]

Raz I have a better plan than Zerg's - which is boring and simply hands town the victory.

If you think it through, you will be able to see that there is still a possibility that you can still win this game by tying with the Mafia. This is the possibility I've been working towards.

Raz, if you kill one of dank or jmoo - whichever you like

and Ocha905 (nice defence today btw), you go for sausage or zerg.

Mafia will kill someone from the rest

King Tenz go for me if you want but then it's game over with the other 3 kills. You're probably better off going for Ocha to confirm he's a night immune as that's the only path to victory for the village. Up to you though.

It will then depend on wolves and Tenz but SK, Town, Mafia/Wolves victory are all in play.

If Tenz kills me and and you Raz withhold, town win.

If Tenz kills me and you kill, SK wins.

If Tenz withholds and you kill, we can lynch Ocha tomorrow (or not, then SK wins). Mafia and WW then kill off the remaining town and we tie.

I've outlined the only way you can win here. kill dank or jmoo.


Imagine the glory if you won this game. You'd have beaten the game, including your own faction. It would be WW history.

I dont play risks that high

Zerg tells me to not kill so town wins.

If killing helps town win then ZergMinion please confirm

 

[BEaston]

Nice try

From the OP...

Wolves WIN CONDITION – Eliminate any Mafia, Vampires, Serial Killers and equal or outnumber the Village.
Mafia WIN CONDITION – Eliminate any Werewolves, Vampires, Serial Killers and equal or outnumber the Village

How do you think Raz will go eliminating the mafia when you have two mambers, including one unknown? You'll kill him off as soon as the village numbers are low enough.

The only way for mafia to win is to eliminate the wolves. He can't do that in your plan. It's not a shared win. It's a mafia win.

But it won't come to that, because under your plan, the SK wins tonight.

If there are only two opposing night immunes left, it's a tie. They have no way to eliminate each other

 

[ZergMinion]

I dont play risks that high

Zerg tells me to not kill so town wins.

If killing helps town win then ZergMinion please confirm

You killing gives the SK the win unless mafia don't take a shot.

I don't mind either way. You can make the call.

 

[Raz]

Think it through Raz, you'll see you can still win.

It's why Zerg is so desperate for you to do his bidding.

Who is the other mafias .

Name names namre roles

 

[BEaston]

I dont play risks that high

Zerg tells me to not kill so town wins.

If killing helps town win then ZergMinion please confirm

Definitely lose to the town or risk losing to the SK. Either way is a loss.

My way you have a chance to win.

 

[Raz]

Don't give town the win, it's what Cadsky wanted.

now i know you wrong, He was all for himself wolves wining

Sorry that is wrong direction to go.

 

[BEaston]

Village only thinking evil can withhold.

Tenz can withhold too.

 

[BEaston]

now i know you wrong, He was all for himself wolves wining

Sorry that is wrong direction to go.

If he wanted them to win why did he out you?

 

[Raz]

Definitely lose to the town or risk losing to the SK. Either way is a loss.

My way you have a chance to win.

Correct , i not playing to win as i dont see how.

So i choose who i want to win

SK or Village of MAFIA

Simple really

 

[ZergMinion]

Village only thinking evil can withhold.

Tenz can withhold too.

Oh we know that, we just want him to take the shot about three quarters as badly as he wants to take it.

 

[BEaston]

Make your choice raz. It will be a boring end to the game if you hand it to town.

It's still up to the WW gods otherwise

 

[BEaston]

Correct , i not playing to win as i dont see how.

So i choose who i want to win

SK or Village of MAFIA

Simple really

Mafia can ONLY win with the wolves in a tie.

I've outlined it already.