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[Biggie]

Then you don't have a responsible position


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Ok

 

[JordanWCE]

How open are we to trialling Ah Chee as second ruck in the lead up to September?

Vardy isn't mobile enough to be the 2nd ruck, time to give it a shot. Also gives Arch a chance to spend more time in the middle.

 

[frenchconnection]

Petch like Brander not close to AFL level at moment. Waterman fallen away badly. Shuey and Kennedy (if fitT) to come in.

That's what happens to first year players - more often than not they can fall away badly in the latter part of the season. Needs a couple of pre-seasons behind him. He's only young however so has plenty of time ahead of him to work on any deficiencies he may have.

 

[15yearmember]

Ok

I edited the response for clarity


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[15yearmember]

How open are we to trialling Ah Chee as second ruck in the lead up to September?

I think the Grigg (Richmond) approach is worth considering...

We got very little from the second ruckman either as a ruck or a forward today. Given that we might as well add depth in run.




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[barnabyjones]

100% lycett solo ruck. We are having too many changes atm. Need to get a solid 22 in.
Need more run

 

[Mighty Eagles]

Waterman has got to go, had a good season early but has dropped away to today where he was a absolute liability.

You're bang on the money, I've been saying this for weeks now to all the "bring Waterman in brigade".

He hasn't kicked a goal in his past four matches, and only kicked three goals in his last eight games.

The form which has fans excited in the first third of the year has long ended.

 

[Biggie]

Then you don't have a responsible position

Smart arsery aside we do live in a world where some peoole say "family first" because little Billy has a head cold.... and really that's Bullshit.

There are degrees as to the urhency/importance of the family issue IMO


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Of course there are levels where family comes first, perhaps I should be

A head cold doesn’t fit the bill.

A situation where your family could potentially lose a life?

No brainer for me, no matter what responsibilities you have to your job.

Cheers for the clarity

 

[frenchconnection]

Ins (if fit): Jetta, Shuey, Partington, Ah Chee

Outs: Barrass, Masten, Petrucelle, Waterman

In reality we should have played Ah Chee in the guts over Petrucelle in the forward line against a heavily contested team.

Edit: Simpson says JK won't ve fit, Shuey and Jetta should be back.

Is JK's body shot and is retirement on the cards at seasons end or is it just the current injury that's causing havoc?

 

[Biggie]

Jesus

Hungry Tigers army is growing

 

[FKASC]

I guess the gamble is - do you
a) play a second ruck who will lose the taps and offer nothing at ground level, or
b) play a non-ruck who will lose the taps but act as another midfielder once the ball is in dispute

If Ah Chee wants to contest centre bounces and just tackle the first opposition player he sees, then why not give it a try?

Regardless, we should have trialled this against WB. We won’t do it this weekend and we won’t do it against Gawn or Ryder.

 

[amazingjoshy]

I liked Barrass fwd in the short time he played there, with no JK would like to see it full time next week.

 

[squashface]

Issue with going the Richmond approach with Ah Chee is that Grigg has proven himself to be a capable midfielder whereas we have not seen enough of Ah Chee in the middle to have faith that he will still perform when he concedes the tap.

 

[frenchconnection]

Maybe but it doesn’t change the fact that you can’t have anymore than 1-3 players in your side getting it less than 15 times to win a flag. We are miles away in that scenario. I am going to look into this week but I reckon we would be top of the ladder in the league for most amount of players per game who get less than 10 disposals in a match.

It's been like that for some time - left to too few more often than not. Everybody just needed to play their role today but too many MIA.

 

[frenchconnection]

Just not his day. He'll bounce back

Think Sheed is lacking a bit of confidence at the moment - not sure how to fix that?

 

[Mighty Eagles]

I don't think we can play Rioli, Ryan, Cripps and Le Cras all in the same side.

Sadly, they're all too one-dimensinal, and when the chips are down none of them do enough.

 

[Biggie]

I don't think we can play Rioli, Ryan, Cripps and Le Cras all in the same side.

Sadly, they're all too one-dimensinal, and when the chips are down none of them do enough.

Rioli?

One dimensional?

You’re having a laugh.

 

[frenchconnection]

His tackles get broken or shrugged quite often.

Have noticed that happening to a few of our players more often than I would like - at times I think we badly need a tackling specialist coach.

 

[ArdentEagle]

For me -
Out - Sheed Waterman Petrucelle Vardy
In - Shuey M.Allen Kennedy Partington

 

[Yamumluvsbigcox]

Lots of calls for schofield out !
One of the only players that can hold his head high today.
Not one call for venables dropped . He hasnt played one game that could be called above average all year .

Out vardy Petracelle sheed waterman venables
In jetta ryan shuey kennedy Mallen .

Barrass to ruck

 

[15yearmember]

Of course there are levels where family comes first, perhaps I should be

A head cold doesn’t fit the bill.

A situation where your family could potentially lose a life?

No brainer for me, no matter what responsibilities you have to your job.

Cheers for the clarity

Absolutely.

But we don't get any clarity in this circumstance do we? Just "family first" as if that is cover for every circumstance...

I guess we just have to assume that its more than a head cold.

 

[darksquare]

Jesus

Hungry Tigers army is growing

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. I think we all agree that Waterman’s time is up for the moment.


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[15yearmember]

Have noticed that happening to a few of our players more often than I would like - at times I think we badly need a tackling specialist coach.

Our tackling was deplorable today. We've got some players who lack strength (Masten) and a lot of young immature body types - and it kills you when teams break a tackle through the middle or away from a stoppage. Hurt us directly for goals 3 or 4 times today

 

[Biggie]

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. I think we all agree that Waterman’s time is up for the moment.


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Yeah he looks spent doesn’t he?

 

[ziad]

Is JK's body shot and is retirement on the cards at seasons end or is it just the current injury that's causing havoc?

like he only had a broken (fracture) leg