Summer #Brisbane2032 - Brisbane announced as host of the 2032 Olympics!

[Jeremias]

 

[Underarm]

Where in Qld does a 100k stadium exist? I'll wait...

Melbourne has one.

What am I missing here? Athletics is a niche sport, and Australia already has multiple facilities that can host domestic and international meets.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

More like saying Brisbane don't need a 100k capacity football ground because 1 already exists.

Aren't they building a massive swimming centre instead? That makes way more logical sense as QLD is the home of Swimming Australia.

No its not.

You want your world class athletes in Queensland to be able to have international standard facilities to train on at home base and you need those standard facilities to host world class events, including national championships, and to train up officials for those events.

The biggest show in town when the Olympics are on is athletics. So why shouldn't they get a legacy asset out of it just like Sydney did with the building of the Athletics Centre - promised in the Bid Book along with the Sydney Aquatics centre to be built even if Sydney lost the bid in 1993 - which was a warm up track next to Stadium Australia, and was built as a world standard and maintained after Sydney Olympics were over, and then they built a warm track for the Athletics Centre as that is needed to hold international and national championships.

So cricket and footy get a legacy asset for **** all, that is required for athletics. I hope they get charged a proper rental price on a $3.7bil asset then and not subsidized further then. Commercial properties you want 10% capital cost for rent, so $370m rent collected on 40 events per year. Could cricket and footy afford to pay nearly $10m an event day - or do they just want another freebie harry hand out??

The more I read the the 2 independent panels' reviews, the more I can see the Bid Book submitted by Palaszczuk's government and endorsed by John Coates and the AOC, was dodgy as hell.

Coates did his job to get a second Olympics to Oz, 32 years after Sydney, because he probably knows the next one Oz will get is around 2112, given the IOC and its chief broadcasters want a July/August games. But looks like there were a lot of dodgy short cuts taken.

Paris 1924 ........ next one 2024 - 100 years
London 1948 ..... next one 2012 - 64 years
Helsinki 1952 ...... next one ???
Rome 1960 ......... next one ???
Tokyo 1964 ......... next one 2020 - 56 years + covid delay 12 months
USA - Atlanta 1996 .. next one LA 2028 - 32 years

Munich 1972, Montreal 1976, Moscow 1980, Seoul 1988, Barcelona 1992, all these cities/nations haven't had a second games yet. They will want their games, as will China, oil rich Middle Eastern nations, other Euro and Asian cities.

So Coates used his power to get the Games back to Oz given what he AOC and SOCOG did in 2000, and then he leveraged that when he got onto the IOC and became as powerful an IOC member as anyone in the last 20 odd years.

 

[Royces Hart]

I hope they get charged a proper rental price on a $3.7bil asset then and not subsidized further then.

That, I fully agree with.

 

[Underarm]

No its not.

You want your world class athletes in Queensland to be able to have international standard facilities to train on at home base and you need those standard facilities to host world class events, including national championships, and to train up officials for those events.

Training facilities upgrade I get.

But why hosting facilities? We have those facilities elsewhere in the country?

The biggest show in town when the Olympics are on is athletics. So why shouldn't they get a legacy asset out of it just like Sydney did with the building of the Athletics Centre - promised in the Bid Book along with the Sydney Aquatics centre to be built even if Sydney lost the bid in 1993 - which was a warm up track next to Stadium Australia, and was built as a world standard and maintained after Sydney Olympics were over, and then they built a warm track for the Athletics Centre as that is needed to hold international and national championships.

The biggest show during the Olympics overall might be the athletics, but Australia has a passing interest in them. The swimming is our focus.

So cricket and footy get a legacy asset for **** all, that is required for athletics. I hope they get charged a proper rental price on a $3.7bil asset then and not subsidized further then. Commercial properties you want 10% capital cost for rent, so $370m rent collected on 40 events per year. Could cricket and footy afford to pay nearly $10m an event day - or do they just want another freebie harry hand out??

The Gabba was always going to be replaced, regardless of if there was an Olympics or not.

 

[GreyCrow]

The Gabba was always going to be replaced, regardless of if there was an Olympics or not.

It would have taken a lot more time to do so though

Instead of 2032 I would suggest 2050 would be the earliest replacement time

 

[Underarm]

It would have taken a lot more time to do so though

Instead of 2032 I would suggest 2050 would be the earliest replacement time

Longer yeah, but not that long. Brisbane is the 3rd largest city, and after Macquarie Point would have had the 6th best football/cricket facilities in the country. There's no way that would have taken 20+ years to fix.

 

[AdelaideGT]

But why hosting facilities? We have those facilities elsewhere in the country?

International athletics events now have to be held between July & September to suit countries from the Northern Hemisphere.

The only place in Australia capable of holding events at that time of year with decent weather is Queensland.

Also, when Aussie athletes are preparing to go overseas to rep in a World Champs or Comm Games (etc) they need facilities in a reasonable climate for final training camps and comps.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Training facilities upgrade I get.

But why hosting facilities? We have those facilities elsewhere in the country?

See GT's response, he beat me to it.

The biggest show during the Olympics overall might be the athletics, but Australia has a passing interest in them. The swimming is our focus.

That is cliched BS. Look at the ratings during the Olympics, they don't drop off during the 2nd week when the athletics are on, because more people have participated in athletics than swimming events at schools, clubs and beyond.

If there was only a passing interest why did up to 95,000 people turn up to morning heat sessions of athletics at the Sydney Olympics?? An audience size never seen before at Olympic athletics heat sessions.

And it wasn't about price, an adult ticket for morning heats was $120 and night finals sessions were $160 except for the last night when they were about $225 for 9 finals.

Australians vote with their feet and eyeballs that they will go watch the best in the world. They don't go watch games and leagues that aren't the best in the world, in large numbers.

Aussie Rules get big crowds and ratings to the week in week out competition because its the best comp in the world. NRL get decent crowds and big ratings because its the best league in the world. The big crowds come out for Origin. Soccer, Basketball, Rugby Union, shield cricket etc in national comps don't get big crowds because they aren't the best in the world. But when the national teams of those sports play they get huge crowds and ratings because people will spent their time and money to watch the best possible in those sports.

The Gabba was always going to be replaced, regardless of if there was an Olympics or not.

But probably by 2050 - 55 years or so after the main redevelopment was done in several stages between 1994 and 2000, brought forward a decade to be fit for Olympic soccer in 2000. And even in 2050ish there would have been a strong push for a refurbishment rather than replacement, if there was no international event to drive a huge improvement.