Player Watch Brayden Maynard

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The only one deviating off their line is Brayshaw who is sliding to his right.
Exactly. As I previously posted (# 3,789), the behind the goal visions - both from the front and back - show it was only Bradshaw going off his line, veering to the right (quite possibly trying to milk a down-field free kick) that caused the contact.
 

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Exactly. As I previously posted (# 3,789), the behind the goal visions - both from the front and back - show it was only Bradshaw going off his line, veering to the right (quite possibly trying to milk a down-field free kick) that caused the contact.
I was also of the thought Brayshaw, being a professional footballer, ensured contact was made to get the free as well.
 
Your reasoning is at best hard to follow and at worst illogical.

I’m gathering that you are saying that Maynard should never have launched for the smother as he should have thought that he might land on Brayshaw and injure him?
It’s a risk reward players will have to weigh up similar to choosing to bump.

It’s a pretty simple concept to follow.
 
What I’m suggesting is written down.
If you are suggesting Maynard chose to bump then we disagree completely.

Personally his report is an embarrassment on the league IMO. Played the ball. Freak accident. Could play it 100 times over and it wouldn’t happen.

Facing 3 weeks for a football incident when players get less for non footy strikes etc. afl is a shambles
 
I was also of the thought Brayshaw, being a professional footballer, ensured contact was made to get the free as well.

He also does it weekly (leads with head with no intent to protect himself) in stoppages as do many players league wide including our own.

AFL ignores it because in their mind that's OK as long as they can punish the other party.
 
This is from 2023 Tribunal Guidelines, interesting who can make a referral and there are a number of people that can including Club's CEO's which I didn't know. The fact that the current Executive GM is a female is irrelevant!

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This is from 2023 Tribunal Guidelines, interesting who can make a referral and there are a number of people that can including Club's CEO's which I didn't know. The fact that the current Executive GM is a female is irrelevant!

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Gender is irrelevant to me Maggie. She’s overstepped the mark IMO. From reports the match review officer, whose sole job it is decided no case, he’s the experienced one. Not her place or anyone in her position to intervene when it’s not their area of expertise.

It’s quite clear this is an ass covering exercise and I feel for Maynard being made a scapegoat
 
It’s a risk reward players will have to weigh up similar to choosing to bump.

It’s a pretty simple concept to follow.
He was playing the ball, he didn't run through him like you would in a bump. You're marking it as if it was one.

I'm not sure you understand the key to this case, which is essentially:

Was Maynard playing the ball in a reasonable manner? That'll determine a potential 'careless' or not grading. It's a simple concept.
 
If you are suggesting Maynard chose to bump then we disagree completely.

Personally his report is an embarrassment on the league IMO. Played the ball. Freak accident. Could play it 100 times over and it wouldn’t happen.

Facing 3 weeks for a football incident when players get less for non footy strikes etc. afl is a shambles

I just read the amendment from last year which I'll post below.
If it goes up as Careless Conduct High contact charge, then if I'm reading it right it could also be given 1 match ban as Medium impact.
However I thought any concussion is deemed severe impact by AFL house?
Can anyone confirm this?

Imo its not careless either as it was not a foreseeable outcome of a smother action.


"The Commission approved the following recommendations relating to the Match Review and Tribunal process to ensure the systems, guidelines and interpretations continue to evolve with the trends of the game.

The amendments are as follows:

1. Head high contact

Previously under the AFL & AFLW Regulations, “strong consideration” was required to be given to the potential to cause injury in certain circumstances. Regulations have therefore been amended as follows:

The potential to cause injury must be factored into the determination of Impact; and

Notwithstanding any other provision of the AFL / AFLW Regulations, any Careless or Intentional Forceful Front-On Conduct or Rough Conduct (High Bumps) where High Contact has been made and that has the potential to cause injury will usually be classified as either Medium, High or Severe Impact (i.e. not Low Impact) even though the extent of the actual physical impact may be low (e.g. the victim player has suffered no apparent injury). This reflects the approach that currently applies to the Impact determination for strikes.

The result of this change will be that, where there is Careless Conduct that is High Contact and has the potential to cause injury, a Medium Impact classification will usually apply, and a one match suspension will be the minimum sanction applied."

 
This is from 2023 Tribunal Guidelines, interesting who can make a referral and there are a number of people that can including Club's CEO's which I didn't know. The fact that the current Executive GM is a female is irrelevant!

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Yes and no to irrelevance Maggie, as most females have less inclination to enjoy physical aspects or think of it in the same light as most males.

To argue female and male thinking or natural instincts as a general is the same is blatantly wrong.
Nuture vs protector is a good place to start looking for your answer.
 
I just read the amendment from last year which I'll post below.
If it goes up as Careless Conduct High contact charge, then if I'm reading it right it could also be given 1 match ban as Medium impact.
However I thought any concussion is deemed severe impact by AFL house?
Can anyone confirm this?

Imo its not careless either as it was not a foreseeable outcome of a smother action.


"The Commission approved the following recommendations relating to the Match Review and Tribunal process to ensure the systems, guidelines and interpretations continue to evolve with the trends of the game.

The amendments are as follows:

1. Head high contact

Previously under the AFL & AFLW Regulations, “strong consideration” was required to be given to the potential to cause injury in certain circumstances. Regulations have therefore been amended as follows:

The potential to cause injury must be factored into the determination of Impact; and

Notwithstanding any other provision of the AFL / AFLW Regulations, any Careless or Intentional Forceful Front-On Conduct or Rough Conduct (High Bumps) where High Contact has been made and that has the potential to cause injury will usually be classified as either Medium, High or Severe Impact (i.e. not Low Impact) even though the extent of the actual physical impact may be low (e.g. the victim player has suffered no apparent injury). This reflects the approach that currently applies to the Impact determination for strikes.

The result of this change will be that, where there is Careless Conduct that is High Contact and has the potential to cause injury, a Medium Impact classification will usually apply, and a one match suspension will be the minimum sanction applied."

This is what annoys me. Being so focussed on outcome based. Maynard’s total accident results in concussion so immediately viewed seriously, yet players non football acts, through blind luck don’t, get treated less. Simply because of luck. The action should be the ultimate grading, not the outcome.

The whole grading system needs reworking, it’s not working
 
Gender is irrelevant to me Maggie.

Maybe to you but not to others.

She’s overstepped the mark IMO. From reports the match review officer, whose sole job it is decided no case, he’s the experienced one. Not her place or anyone in her position to intervene when it’s not their area of expertise.

It’s quite clear this is an ass covering exercise and I feel for Maynard being made a scapegoat

However according to what I posted is entitled to refer the incident. I was surprised to see who else could.

I absolutely disagree with the referral and hope the tribunal see it the same way as most of us.
 
He was playing the ball, he didn't run through him like you would in a bump. You're marking it as if it was one.

I'm not sure you understand the key to this case, which is essentially:

Was Maynard playing the ball in a reasonable manner? That'll determine a potential 'careless' or not grading. It's a simple concept.
No, I’m suggesting the AFL will mark it that way from next season onwards.
 
Yes and no to irrelevance Maggie, as most females have less inclination to enjoy physical aspects or think of it in the same light as most males.

To argue female and male thinking or natural instincts as a general is the same is blatantly wrong.
Nuture vs protector is a good place to start looking for your answer.
Sorry, that is so much nonsense.

Do you know that the last numbers I heard females and males attend AFL in almost equal numbers.
 

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