List Mgmt. Brady Rawlings | Head of Football Talent (Recruitment, LM & TPP)

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Interesting you mention them. Perhaps they aren't so worried about having high picks next year as Brayshaw goes FA and then they acquire Chad Warner. Our midfield is far from set, I think we could squeeze Brayshaw in. I hope we do. It'll make not having a first rounder much more palatable.

If Freo don't match.....

It's the same RFA situation as LDU, especially with 2 years pick trading set to probably be exercised next year. I think matching becomes far more viable unless you are getting obvious overs like McKay, Battle, Perryman.

I don't know why we would target Brayshaw personally, Freo would no doubt just demand whatever we recieved for LDU.

IF LDU does leave to someone like St Kilda, we should be matching and demanding one of the biggest trades in history. I.E 3 x R1 picks 2025, 2026, 2027.

Something that will strengthen the side for a very long time. Not just hand it to Fremantle. We have enough midfielders to likely absorb LDU long term as unpalatable as that would be.

If Freo ended up with that hand in the event Brayshaw left and we traded it (who Young has gone past probably), they are going to enter a Hawthorn/Richmond run of flags imo.
 
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If Freo don't match.....

It's the same RFA situation as LDU, especially with 2 years pick trading set to probably be exercised next year.

I don't know why we would target Brayshaw personally, Freo would no doubt just demand whatever we recieved for LDU.
I mean for Brayshaw to compliment LDU and our other mids. If LDU goes the reasoning for chasing Brayshaw only increases. I know you hate older players, but the last few years has shown just how badly we need them.
 
The pick we got back from Richmond is likely going to be pushed out beyond pick 30 with all the academy players next year.

If we had of taken the deal we could’ve ended up with both Whitlocks.

It’s just added to a long list of missed opportunities for mine.
there are 12+ top 20 academey players next year?
 

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I mean for Brayshaw to compliment LDU and our other mids. If LDU goes the reasoning for chasing Brayshaw only increases. I know you hate older players, but the last few years has shown just how badly we need them.

I don't hate older players at all. I'd trade for Hayden Young and Chad Warner in a heartbeat.

But where the hell does Brayshaw fit in with LDU still at North?

We have Sheezel, Wardlaw, McKercher, FOS, Powell, Simpkin, Phillips all having played through the guts in juniors.

You recruit Brayshaw, you have to trade one of Powell or Simpkin. Our "captain" is already getting pushed to about the 5th rotation.

You recruit Brayshaw and it's likely Sheezel doesn't play in the middle.

There's an argument to be made based on his season Sheezel is already a better midfielder than Andrew Brayshaw.

You need depth, but you aren't recruiting Brayshaw to come as a rotation off the bench. I'd much prefer Wardlaw to him long term also. Then Colby, Powell, Parker etc etc.

We are at our capacity for center square mids other than a defensive midfielder. If it's someone like Brayshaw in, it will require someone with significant midfield time out at this point.

If we had to trade for him, forget it. We have so many more glaring needs than another full time center square mid like him. Who's honestly not going to be better than maybe our 3rd best midfielder down the track.
 
If Freo don't match.....

It's the same RFA situation as LDU, especially with 2 years pick trading set to probably be exercised next year. I think matching becomes far more viable unless you are getting obvious overs like McKay, Battle, Perryman.

I don't know why we would target Brayshaw personally, Freo would no doubt just demand whatever we recieved for LDU.

IF LDU does leave to someone like St Kilda, we should be matching and demanding one of the biggest trades in history. I.E 3 x R1 picks 2025, 2026, 2027.

Something that will strengthen the side for a very long time. Not just hand it to Fremantle. We have enough midfielders to likely absorb LDU long term as unpalatable as that would be.

If Freo ended up with that hand in the event Brayshaw left and we traded it (who Young has gone past probably), they are going to enter a Hawthorn/Richmond run of flags imo.
Losing him pushes back the window another three years at least.

It simply can’t happen.
 
Let me preface this by saying this information has come to me 3rd hand. But if it’s true, it makes the F1 deal look even worse.

During the trade period Richmond offered 11 & one of their 2nd round picks for our F1 and Current 4th round pick. We held our ground because we thought there would be better offers….on draft night we went to Richmond and wanted the same deal they said no, because they were really keen to get those talls on their list.

By holding out thinking we were going to get a better deal we essentially cost ourselves a top 15 pick.

Rawlings ability to negotiate fair value is genuinely shit, and it’s costing us far too much in terms of opportunities lost at both the draft table and the trade table.
Checks out.

He’s an absolute lemon.
 
I don't hate older players at all. I'd trade for Hayden Young and Chad Warner in a heartbeat.

But where the hell does Brayshaw fit in with LDU still at North?

We have Sheezel, Wardlaw, McKercher, FOS, Powell, Phillips all having played through the guts in juniors.

You recruit Brayshaw, you have to trade one of Powell or Simpkin.

You recruit Brayshaw and it's likely Sheezel doesn't play in the middle.

There's an argument to be made based on his season Sheezel is already a better midfielder than Andrew Brayshaw.

You need depth, but you aren't recruiting Brayshaw to come as a rotation off the bench. I'd much prefer Wardlaw to him long term also. Then Colby, Powell, Parker etc etc.

We are at our capacity for center square mids other than a defensive midfielder. If it's someone like Brayshaw in, it will require someone with significant midfield time out at this point.
But you need 10 mids on the field and the bench.

The elite teams play so many!!

(Ignoring the fact that most play 5 mids at the absolute maximum through the middle.)
 
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But you need 10 mids on the field and the bench.

The elite teams play so many!!

(Ignoring the fact that most play 5 minds at the absolute maximum through the middle.)
You aren't counting those who play on the wing as part of these mids then, yes?

If we have 3 (2 on ground and one on bench) wings - say FOS, McKerch and Powell. Then the 5 mids will be LDU, Wardlaw and 3 others.

The 3 others could include Sheezel, but he has played amazing footy in every third of the ground, so its not a fait acompli that he's going to be a long-term full-time mid. And that's OK, he'll be dynamite wherever we put him.

Parker and Simpkin could be 2 others. But Brayshaw is better than them, so of course we would be keen to upgrade. Plus Parker isn't going to be around forever and is likely to play less and less midfield minutes as the years go by.

Phillips? Well, let's just see him get to 2026 first.

Other than that our mids are Luke Urquhart. We're nowhere near as chock full of mids as many believe.
 
What is going on with Brady? Some very strange decisions this off season. Reminds me of the horror show we had with Ned Guy.

The future first for 27 is even worse when you consider you traded pick 25 for Caleb Daniel. So you had a pick in that range but had to trade a future first to get one back. That’s pick 2-8 for Caleb Daniel and Richmond’s 2025 2nd pick 22-26.

That incompetence is worth getting fired over isn’t it?
 
What is going on with Brady? Some very strange decisions this off season. Reminds me of the horror show we had with Ned Guy.

The future first for 27 is even worse when you consider you traded pick 25 for Caleb Daniel. So you had a pick in that range but had to trade a future first to get one back. That’s pick 2-8 for Caleb Daniel and Richmond’s 2025 2nd pick 22-26.

That incompetence is worth getting fired over isn’t it?
Go away.
 
there are 12+ top 20 academey players next year?
Between academy and father sons it’ll go close.

Zeke Uwland, Beau Addinsall, Dylan Patterson, Kalani White, Daniel Annable, Noah Chamberlain, Lachie Carmichael, Taj Murray, Ben Rongdit, Tom McGuane all shaping up as potential top 30ish picks.
 

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You aren't counting those who play on the wing as part of these mids then, yes?

If we have 3 (2 on ground and one on bench) wings - say FOS, McKerch and Powell. Then the 5 mids will be LDU, Wardlaw and 3 others.

The 3 others could include Sheezel, but he has played amazing footy in every third of the ground, so its not a fait acompli that he's going to be a long-term full-time mid. And that's OK, he'll be dynamite wherever we put him.

Parker and Simpkin could be 2 others. But Brayshaw is better than them, so of course we would be keen to upgrade. Plus Parker isn't going to be around forever and is likely to play less and less midfield minutes as the years go by.

Phillips? Well, let's just see him get to 2026 first.

Other than that our mids are Luke Urquhart. We're nowhere near as chock full of mids as many believe.
No, I’m only including centre square midfielders.

LDU - Main
Wardlaw - Main
Sheezel - Main
Powell - Main
Parker - Rotating
Simpkin - Rotating

Phillips - Depth
Urquhart - Depth

The wings consist of Scott, McKercher Stephens and O’Sullivan. None of them will go anywhere near the middle with what we have above. Maybe McKercher at a stretch.
 
I know hindsight is 20/20, but geez looking in depth at this past trade/draft period shows an absolute mess, and it's hard not to give Brady negative marks.

To summarize:

Positive Moves
Parker + Konstanty for pick 44
Darling for pick 67
Selecting FOS at 2
Selecting Mattlock at 27

Trading in senior talent for late picks is absolutely the right move, and FOS + Mattlock were good selections at their respective picks (how we got there is a different story).

Mediocre Moves
Selecting Urquhart at 57
Selecting Stevens at 67

Hard to criticize late draft picks, but I feel like at that stage of the draft you should take fliers on players with high upside, and neither of these guys seem to have any indication of having elite attributes. Although I'm not a draft expert so that could be way wrong.

Bad Moves
Zurhaars Contract Extension

I like Cam, but he doesn't provide the leadership we need from a senior player. He's also shown enough that FA compo would've flirted with Band 1, at minimum we would've picked up Band 2.

Catastrophic Moves
Daniel for pick 25
F1 for pick 27 + F2

These two alone should be fire-able offenses. We should've been prepared to walk away from Daniel, and the draft night trade absolutely reeks of desperation.

There's an alternate universe out there where Brady didnt make the bad/catastrophic moves and we went to the draft with 2, 25, band 1 or 2 compo, 62 and we kept our 1st rounder.

That would be an immensely better result than what we ended up with.
 
Let me get this straight. You are calling people who hold opinions you agree with intellectually challenged. Not because of the opinions, of course. But because they express them rather than show support for decisions you both disagree with. Is that it?

Were you raised in a cult?
Nope.

Its the amount of emotional turmoil these poor little dears are having to contend with all because we made a bold move. The attitude and the vitriol they use is the icing on the 'intellectually challenged' cake.

So stuff them.
 
You aren't counting those who play on the wing as part of these mids then, yes?

If we have 3 (2 on ground and one on bench) wings - say FOS, McKerch and Powell. Then the 5 mids will be LDU, Wardlaw and 3 others.

The 3 others could include Sheezel, but he has played amazing footy in every third of the ground, so its not a fait acompli that he's going to be a long-term full-time mid. And that's OK, he'll be dynamite wherever we put him.

Parker and Simpkin could be 2 others. But Brayshaw is better than them, so of course we would be keen to upgrade. Plus Parker isn't going to be around forever and is likely to play less and less midfield minutes as the years go by.

Phillips? Well, let's just see him get to 2026 first.

Other than that our mids are Luke Urquhart. We're nowhere near as chock full of mids as many believe.

The 5th mid with significant center bounces under Clarko this season was a tagger/defensive mid.

Otherwise it's been a forward/mid getting 4-5 bounces a game.

It's not a frontline role.

There's basically 4 midfielders given license to hunt the ball for a game.

They were generally 4 of LDU, Powell, Wardlaw, Sheezel, Simpkin based on injury/availability. The 5th was often made up of Phillips/Shiels or Curtis/Zurhaar. I'm excluding the wingers here in Stephens/Shiels/Scott...


In the few amount of games they were all available. Either Powell or Simpkin were played off of flanks and the wing, which they were very ineffective at.


The above will not change. The only change being that McKercher now becomes a legitimate requirement to come into that group of 5 options. In time FOS will also be in there.

In time I have no doubt Duursma will be that 5th player out of the forward line for bursts during the game.

Simpkin no doubt comes out long term.

But Sheezel is one of the absolute elite mids of the game based on this season, why would you move him, just to fit Brayshaw in, when we have him covered anyway? Sheezel is our best player. You put him under the ball at all opportunities.


It just seems counter productive (long term) to be outlaying big money on someone like Brayshaw.

If LDU left, it would be a different story, but he's still probably not someone I'd target if given that option. Unless he came free under FA (highly unlikely given Freo's likely finishing position)
 
No, I’m only including centre square midfielders.

LDU - Main
Wardlaw - Main
Sheezel - Main
Powell - Main
Parker - Rotating
Simpkin - Rotating

Phillips - Depth
Urquhart - Depth

The wings consist of Scott, McKercher Stephens and O’Sullivan. None of them will go anywhere near the middle with what we have above. Maybe McKercher at a stretch.
So you agree with me then re numbers? We need more/better/to replace depth in the midfield. Referring to Parker (age), Urq (unproven), Phillips and Simkpin (easily upgradeable).
 
The 5th mid with significant center bounces under Clarko this season was a tagger.

Otherwise it's been a forward/mid getting 4-5 bounces a game.

It's not a frontline role.

There's basically 4 midfielders given license to hunt the ball for a game.

They were generally 4 of LDU, Powell, Wardlaw, Sheezel, Simpkin based on injury/availability. The 5th was often made up of Phillips/Shiels or Curtis/Zurhaar.


In the few amount of games they were all available. Either Powell or Simpkin were played off of flanks and the wing, which they were very ineffective at.


The above will not change. The only change being that McKercher now becomes a legitimate requirement to come into that group of 4. In time FOS will also be in there.

In time I have no doubt Duursma will be that 5th player out of the forward line.

Simpkin no doubt comes out long term.

But Sheezel is one of the absolute elite mids of the game based on this season, why would you move him, just to fit Brayshaw in, when we have him covered anyway?


It just seems counter productive (long term) to be outlaying big money on someone like Brayshaw.
I wouldn't be recruiting Brayshaw to replace Sheezel, I would want them in the same mid rotations.

Our midfield isn't very good. The weakest links in it need to be replaced with better options. I would be recruiting Brayshaw to replace Powell, Phillips, Simpkin, Shiels and Curtis/Zurhaar's midfield minutes.
 
So you agree with me then re numbers? We need more/better/to replace depth in the midfield. Referring to Parker (age), Urq (unproven), Phillips and Simkpin (easily upgradeable).
McKercher will go in there once Parker is done.

Simpkin is fine as the sixth midfielder. It’s when he plays as a key cog it’s a problem.

Phillips I don’t see making it as Urquhart has everything he doesn’t have and is far more suited to a defensive role.
 
Let me preface this by saying this information has come to me 3rd hand. But if it’s true, it makes the F1 deal look even worse.

During the trade period Richmond offered 11 & one of their 2nd round picks for our F1 and Current 4th round pick. We held our ground because we thought there would be better offers….on draft night we went to Richmond and wanted the same deal they said no, because they were really keen to get those talls on their list.

By holding out thinking we were going to get a better deal we essentially cost ourselves a top 15 pick.

Rawlings ability to negotiate fair value is genuinely shit, and it’s costing us far too much in terms of opportunities lost at both the draft table and the trade table.
Oh wow.

I've poisoned my eyes with some codswallop on here over my time, but this would undoubtedly be the greatest fairy tale load of excriment i've seen.

Of course its true. 3rd hand, huh? Yeah........keep convincing yourself it happened.

Gronk.
 
Oh wow.

I've poisoned my eyes with some codswallop on here over my time, but this would undoubtedly be the greatest fairy tale load of excriment i've seen.

Of course its true. 3rd hand, huh? Yeah........keep convincing yourself it happened.

Gronk.
rf08 has a decent history of inside info so maybe, just maybe it’s fairly close to the mark judging by Rawlings absolute shitshow trading history.

But hey, you keep believing he’s done everything right.

It’s why we’ve been flying the last five years.
 

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