List Mgmt. Brady Rawlings | Head of Football Talent (Recruitment, LM & TPP)

Remove this Banner Ad

Yep the blind acceptance is pathetic

Praise the wins (Parker, darling, konstanty for 44 and 67)

Call out the questionable decisions (25 for Daniel and now the f1 trade)
and now to add river stevens to the questionable decisions especially the decision to put him on the senior list instead of the rookie list

I like urquhart at that pick so will be generous and give him a win there despite others complaining about mids
 
The pick swap was really bad, but I think I would have been even more outraged if we didn’t pick up a key forward in this draft.

The Caleb trade was the ****-up. Couldn’t even bargin down to our f2. Was it 2 or 3 good key forwards still on the board at his pick? Matt probably would have still been there too.
 

Log in to remove this ad.

I don't hate it to anywhere the level others do.
Whitlock is exactly the type of player we needed, especially if the top end of next year's draft is mid heavy again.

But Brady's balls are absolutely nailed to the wall now, this has to work out or he's gone.
If we finish below Richmond. Or there's a superior KPF or gun small forward at the top of next year's draft, he's out the door.
Brady out the door? He ain’t going nowhere.
How he landed his current role remains a mystery. But I suppose that could be said about quite a few people at NM. Jen Watt a perfect example.
 
Let me preface this by saying this information has come to me 3rd hand. But if it’s true, it makes the F1 deal look even worse.

During the trade period Richmond offered 11 & one of their 2nd round picks for our F1 and Current 4th round pick. We held our ground because we thought there would be better offers….on draft night we went to Richmond and wanted the same deal they said no, because they were really keen to get those talls on their list.

By holding out thinking we were going to get a better deal we essentially cost ourselves a top 15 pick.

Rawlings ability to negotiate fair value is genuinely shit, and it’s costing us far too much in terms of opportunities lost at both the draft table and the trade table.
 
Last edited:
Let me preface this by saying this information has come to me 3rd hand. But if it’s true, it makes the F1 deal look even worse.

During the trade period Richmond offered 11 & one of their 2nd round picks for our F1 and Current 3rd round pick. We held our ground because we thought there would be better offers….on draft night we went to Richmond and wanted the same deal they said no, because they were really keen to get those talls on their list.

By holding out thinking we were going to get a better deal we essentially cost ourselves a top 15 pick.

Rawlings ability to negotiate fair value is genuinely shit, and it’s costing us far too much in terms of opportunities lost at both the draft table and the trade table.
oh boy

and yet it does not surprise me

rawlings should have been sacked years ago
 
Let me preface this by saying this information has come to me 3rd hand. But if it’s true, it makes the F1 deal look even worse.

During the trade period Richmond offered 11 & one of their 2nd round picks for our F1 and Current 3rd round pick. We held our ground because we thought there would be better offers….on draft night we went to Richmond and wanted the same deal they said no, because they were really keen to get those talls on their list.

By holding out thinking we were going to get a better deal we essentially cost ourselves a top 15 pick.

Rawlings ability to negotiate fair value is genuinely shit, and it’s costing us far too much in terms of opportunities lost at both the draft table and the trade table.
Straight out of the George Costanza book of negotiation:
heldOutLessMoney.gif
If this is truly the case then surely that prosboscis monkey looking MOFO will be cleaning out his desk over the weekend.
 
Let me preface this by saying this information has come to me 3rd hand. But if it’s true, it makes the F1 deal look even worse.

During the trade period Richmond offered 11 & one of their 2nd round picks for our F1 and Current 3rd round pick. We held our ground because we thought there would be better offers….on draft night we went to Richmond and wanted the same deal they said no, because they were really keen to get those talls on their list.

By holding out thinking we were going to get a better deal we essentially cost ourselves a top 15 pick.

Rawlings ability to negotiate fair value is genuinely shit, and it’s costing us far too much in terms of opportunities lost at both the draft table and the trade table.

I didn't like what Thursfield said to Twomey last night.

"Our F1 was on the table straight up at every pick until about the late teens, then we wanted something back"

That just screams amateur hour to me. Every few picks should have been an adjustment on what we had to give up. Just like your post above. Richmonds deal was off the table after a certain point.. Just as ours should have been.

I actually can't believe GWS didn't jump at that. The fact they've picked Harry Oliver over a top 10 pick next year (and still been able to secure Hannaford) is absolutely wild to me.


Fremantle is another. Murphy Reid is a good little player, but they have Serong, Brayshaw, Young, Sharp and just recruited Shai Bolton.

They are absolutely mad not to have taken that deal and had another top pick next year. They turned a similar trade with Schultz/Collingwood into Shai Bolton, they could have used our R1 pick next year to entice anyone they wanted at the trade table.

For all the shit we will get in the next 12 months, these two should equally get it for passing on the deal.

They saved us from ourselves, as it's likely we would have probably just picked Whitlock anyway.
 
Let me preface this by saying this information has come to me 3rd hand. But if it’s true, it makes the F1 deal look even worse.

During the trade period Richmond offered 11 & one of their 2nd round picks for our F1 and Current 3rd round pick. We held our ground because we thought there would be better offers….on draft night we went to Richmond and wanted the same deal they said no, because they were really keen to get those talls on their list.

By holding out thinking we were going to get a better deal we essentially cost ourselves a top 15 pick.

Rawlings ability to negotiate fair value is genuinely shit, and it’s costing us far too much in terms of opportunities lost at both the draft table and the trade table.

Had we taken Whitlock at 11, it's a very similar deal to what we ended up going with. Maybe we'd have taken Faull or Armstrong instead, but I don't see a massive gap in talent between those two and Whitlock.

It would have been nice to take the second this year instead, but I think the second we got back from Richmond still has a ton of value to it.

On paper your deal looks a lot better, but zooming out there's not a huge difference.
 

(Log in to remove this ad.)

I didn't like what Thursfield said to Twomey last night.

"Our F1 was on the table straight up at every pick until about the late teens, then we wanted something back"

That just screams amateur hour to me. Every few picks should have been an adjustment on what we had to give up. Just like your post above. Richmonds deal was off the table. Just as ours should have been.

I actually can't believe GWS didn't jump at that. The fact they've picked Harry Oliver over a top 10 pick next year (and still been able to secure Hannaford) is absolutely wild to me.


Fremantle is another. Murphy Reid is a good little player, but they have Serong, Brayshaw, Young, Sharp and just recruit Shai Bolton.

They are absolutely mad not to have taken that deal and had another top pick next year. They turned a similar trade with Schultz/Collingwood into Shai Bolton, they could have used our R1 pick next year to entice anyone they wanted at the trade table.

They saved us from ourselves, as it's likely we would have probably just picked Whitlock anyway.
Yeah i genuinely was surprised by both the giants and the swans picks where thay baulked at the forwards. Probably less so with giants having brown, hogan and cadman but swans are playing amarty and mcdonald fwd in their best 22 list.
 
Had we taken Whitlock at 11, it's a very similar deal to what we ended up going with. Maybe we'd have taken Faull or Armstrong instead, but I don't see a massive gap in talent between those two and Whitlock.

It would have been nice to take the second this year instead, but I think the second we got back from Richmond still has a ton of value to it.

On paper your deal looks a lot better, but zooming out there's not a huge difference.

The biggest mistake of the offseason was without a doubt the Daniel trade. It kicked off a series of events.

Not because of him as a player, but it was arguably a bigger overpay than the F1 trade.

He was in the VFL for parts of the season, was one of their highest paid players in 2025 on a back ended deal, and is 29 years old in July. He'd had a bust up with Bevo. They didn't want him in the VFL in 2025. It's an absolute shocker, I wont hear otherwise.

In no world is he worth a R2 pick, or even a F2. We paid overs and it was a salary dump to boot. The Dogs should have been paying us....


Had we landed Matt at our natural R2 then done the same trade for Jack as we did the other night, I think the narrative around would be far different. Downgrading our F1 to a F2 to bring in both KPP brothers at either end we rated around the top 10 in the same age range as our top mids , would have been considered good business by most of the industry considering all our other pieces. In fact, I reckon you would go as far as saying the AFL industry would have been pretty afraid of North adding FOS, M.Whitlock and J.Whitlock in 1 offseason to what we already have.

Instead we get Matt and 29 year old Daniel for 2-3 years of decent footy (maybe.) Daniel vs Jack Whitlock will be a something hard to stomach over the next 5-10 years when he's well retired.

It's something we will regret more than the F1 trade, I have no doubt.
 
Last edited:
We didn't have a 3rd round pick to include with the F1 though and would we be allowed to trade our F3 too? Not sure.

The rhetoric the whole trade and draft period was that we would be hoping to pick again later in the first round (whether via F1 or a downgrade from 2) reeked of desperation and was probably Brady and Todd appeasing Will and the recruitment crew to make up for their stinker of a decision to trade in Daniel for massive overs.

Other clubs know that rocking up to Arden St with some enchanted legumes gets them all sorts of goodies. Our list management incompetence rivals our on-field ineptitude and that's saying something.
 
The biggest mistake of the offseason was without a doubt the Daniel trade. It kicked off a series of events.

Not because of him as a player, but it was arguably a bigger overpay than the F1 trade.

He was in the VFL for parts of the season, was one of their highest paid players in 2025 on a back ended deal, and is 29 years old in July. It's an absolute shocker, I wont hear otherwise.

In no world is he worth a R2 pick, or even a F2. We paid overs and it was a salary dump to boot. The Dogs should have been paying us....


Had we landed Matt at our natural R2 then done the same trade for Jack as we did the other night, I think the narrative around we be far different.
the nuffies in charge need to know when to walk away from a deal even if we like a player and due dilligence done

once dogs weren't going to budge on 25 for daniel then we had to take that pick to the draft and let him rot in the dogs vfl

cos you are right I'd stomach the f1 deal to have both whitlocks over having just one of them and daniel
 
I didn't like what Thursfield said to Twomey last night.

"Our F1 was on the table straight up at every pick until about the late teens, then we wanted something back"

That just screams amateur hour to me. Every few picks should have been an adjustment on what we had to give up. Just like your post above. Richmonds deal was off the table after a certain point.. Just as ours should have been.

I actually can't believe GWS didn't jump at that. The fact they've picked Harry Oliver over a top 10 pick next year (and still been able to secure Hannaford) is absolutely wild to me.


Fremantle is another. Murphy Reid is a good little player, but they have Serong, Brayshaw, Young, Sharp and just recruited Shai Bolton.

They are absolutely mad not to have taken that deal and had another top pick next year. They turned a similar trade with Schultz/Collingwood into Shai Bolton, they could have used our R1 pick next year to entice anyone they wanted at the trade table.

For all the shit we will get in the next 12 months, these two should equally get it for passing on the deal.

They saved us from ourselves, as it's likely we would have probably just picked Whitlock anyway.

We may have taken Harry Armstrong if GWS agreed to that trade.
 
Let me preface this by saying this information has come to me 3rd hand. But if it’s true, it makes the F1 deal look even worse.

During the trade period Richmond offered 11 & one of their 2nd round picks for our F1 and Current 3rd round pick. We held our ground because we thought there would be better offers….on draft night we went to Richmond and wanted the same deal they said no, because they were really keen to get those talls on their list.

By holding out thinking we were going to get a better deal we essentially cost ourselves a top 15 pick.

Rawlings ability to negotiate fair value is genuinely shit, and it’s costing us far too much in terms of opportunities lost at both the draft table and the trade table.
Will Smith Reaction GIF
 
Had we taken Whitlock at 11, it's a very similar deal to what we ended up going with. Maybe we'd have taken Faull or Armstrong instead, but I don't see a massive gap in talent between those two and Whitlock.

It would have been nice to take the second this year instead, but I think the second we got back from Richmond still has a ton of value to it.

On paper your deal looks a lot better, but zooming out there's not a huge difference.

The pick we got back from Richmond is likely going to be pushed out beyond pick 30 with all the academy players next year.

If we had of taken the deal we could’ve ended up with both Whitlocks.

It’s just added to a long list of missed opportunities for mine.
 
Fremantle is another. Murphy Reid is a good little player, but they have Serong, Brayshaw, Young, Sharp and just recruited Shai Bolton.

They are absolutely mad not to have taken that deal and had another top pick next year. They turned a similar trade with Schultz/Collingwood into Shai Bolton, they could have used our R1 pick next year to entice anyone they wanted at the trade table.
Interesting you mention them. Perhaps they aren't so worried about having high picks next year as Brayshaw goes FA and then they acquire Chad Warner. Our midfield is far from set, I think we could squeeze Brayshaw in. I hope we do. It'll make not having a first rounder much more palatable.
 
The pick we got back from Richmond is likely going to be pushed out beyond pick 30 with all the academy players next year.

If we had of taken the deal we could’ve ended up with both Whitlocks.

It’s just added to a long list of missed opportunities for mine.
If there really are 11 Academy players that will be bid on and matched in the first round next year, then I imagine clubs with access to those players would be eager to trade out of the first round. As I understand it, fourth round picks no longer carry points. So having 2x second round picks along with a third rounder might garner a trade into the first round.
 

Remove this Banner Ad

List Mgmt. Brady Rawlings | Head of Football Talent (Recruitment, LM & TPP)

Remove this Banner Ad

Back
Top