List Mgmt. Brady Rawlings | Head of Football Talent (Recruitment, LM & TPP)

[Zondor]

I’ll agree to disagree regarding 10 & 11. As for pick 2 we decided early in the trade period to keep it, first hand information FWIW.

Yes. Your info is on the money. Others info isn’t. Got it. :stern look

 

[Gasometer]

This doesn't need to be overcomplicated lol. He's a defender in the same way that someone like Bailey Dale or Dayne Zorko is a defender. He plays there. He doesn't actually really do any defending and won't be expected to be accountable to a dangerous forward

Right

 

[DocSholl]

This doesn't need to be overcomplicated lol. He's a defender in the same way that someone like Bailey Dale or Dayne Zorko is a defender. He plays there. He doesn't actually really do any defending and won't be expected to be accountable to a dangerous forward

They're two of the most attacking, direct kicks of the footy in the competition though, which makes the trade off much easier.

The issue we've had with Sheezel and Fisher in that role is the ball goes side to side a lot. At least with McKercher he would run and carry.

As neat as Daniel is, he's not a linebreaker and is only going to be as effective as the movement ahead of him.

 

[chubbspeterson]

I think 'strategy' is a generous description. It was more a salvage operation. We had a plan going into the draft, but we obviously weren't in the position we intended at the start of the trade period.

We had expected that before the draft we would be able to either split 2 or trade in our F1 for a decent return. Neither happened, we had both misread the demand for these picks and traded out a pick we needed. At this point we could have gone several different ways. Sit and just take the picks we had (missing out on all the talls), trade back and out for the cheap future picks, take whatever awful deal Richmond were offering us for 2, or spend our F1 to buy back at a loss the pick spent on Daniel. I don't think we chose wisely.

But even before the "salvage operation', at the start of trade period started Rawlings said we'd be open to splitting 2 or moving the F1 for a player (Houston) and/or pick(s) in this draft and not dilute our own draft picks too much.
So the F1 was possibly always going to move for a tall.
Again whether it was a good strategy or executed well, we'll see what happens with Matt and Tigers 2025 R2.
Right now it's in the poor strategy and execution basket for sure.
I would've walked away from the Daniel deal, but looks like they also wanted an AA premiership player on each line.

 

[zoomba23]

They're two of the most attacking, direct kicks of the footy in the competition though, which makes the trade off much easier.

The issue we've had with Sheezel and Fisher in that role is the ball goes side to side a lot. At least with McKercher he would run and carry.

As neat as Daniel is, he's not a linebreaker and is only going to be as effective as the movement ahead of him.

True, but the ratio of attacking-defending is the same for him as it is for those other lads. One thing I've noticed about Daniel is that he's really good at finding a solid option even when there's pressure on him and not a lot to kick to further afield. I think he'll help us there a lot, and assist us in getting out of tight spots where previously we might've just turned it over, though obviously he's not going to be very penetrating with his disposal

 

[Masked Avenger]

He's a small attacker who plays in the backline. Will be given the distributor role that Fisher and McKercher had this year, and will hopefully be more consistently precise with his kicking than either of them. He could have all the intent in the world and still be a useless defender, thanks to his physical traits

That's okay.

Do what every Club does with their most attacking and unaccountable defender, put them on the least effective forward.

 

[Conundrum]

According to draft pick points values, on a purepoints value basis, we'd need to finish with pick 7 or 8 next year to make the F1 for 25 and F2 (assuming its as high as 19) roughly equivalent. I have no confidence we'd make the big leap to winning the 8 or 9 games neccessary to get to that level, way more likely we're still bottom 4 next year with pick 3 or 4, in which case another 2nd or 3rd round pick would make it equal.

Obviously points value have no bearing on whether the player picked at each spot is good or not, but generally top 5 picks have a much better chance of turning out good, than second and third rounders. You need to get more stabs at it with more picks to make trading out a top pick worth it, my belief is we should have been able to at least get another 2nd or 3rd in the deal for our F1. Usually when a F1 is traded, it would be for a late first + something, given the main body of our trade was second rounders, surely there should have been something else, given reasonable expectations we'll still stink in 2025

 

[Sir Hop A Lot]

I think Brady’s time as the head of footy role is up, problem is that I don’t believe our CEO is strong enough to make this obvious call. This rebuild is taking an eternity and this latest trade and draft period is his stamp mark all over it.

He’s latest trading period has been embarrassing at best. Once it’s all said and done, we effectively gave up a future 1st, which will most likely be a pick in the top 5 next year for a 31 year old small defender (Caleb Daniel

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Caleb Daniel

Age

28

Ht

171cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.3

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.4

4star

D

19.5

4star

K

11.1

4star

HB

8.4

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.0

3star

CL

1.0

3star

D

16.4

4star

K

7.2

3star

HB

9.2

5star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.2

2star

), this is one of the worst trades I can ever recall. It should’ve been a future 2nd or 3rd, take it or leave it offer to the bulldogs. Because of this stupid trade, we gave up our any form of bargaining chip that we had along with next years first to just to get back into the end of the first round, which at pick 27 was more or less the second round anyway. Just stupid!!

Zack Fisher was brought in last year for the experienced small defender role. So because Brady got that call wrong, we were forced to go in for another experienced small defender and it’s cost us dearly.

Enough is enough, we should be going as hard as possible to get Jason McCartney

Jason Mccartney

Age

50

Ht

191cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.7

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

3.5

3star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.8

3star

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D

10.0

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

4.2

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

0.6

3star

back as head of football to replace Brady. He’s the man for the role. Hopefully he’s boys will come back to Melb too, which gets them out of the Sydney academy…just as an added benefit.

 

[The Brady Bunch]

I think Brady’s time as the head of footy role is up, problem is that I don’t believe our CEO is strong enough to make this obvious call. This rebuild is taking an eternity and this latest trade and draft period is his stamp mark all over it.

He’s latest trading period has been embarrassing at best. Once it’s all said and done, we effectively gave up a future 1st, which will most likely be a pick in the top 5 next year for a 31 year old small defender (Caleb Daniel), this is one of the worst trades I can ever recall. It should’ve been a future 2nd or 3rd, take it or leave it offer to the bulldogs. Because of this stupid trade, we gave up our any form of bargaining chip that we had along with next years first to just to get back into the end of the first round, which at pick 27 was more or less the second round anyway. Just stupid!!

Zack Fisher was brought in last year for the experienced small defender role. So because Brady got that call wrong, we were forced to go in for another experienced small defender and it’s cost us dearly.

Enough is enough, we should be going as hard as possible to get Jason McCartney back as head of football to replace Brady. He’s the man for the role. Hopefully he’s boys will come back to Melb too, which gets them out of the Sydney academy…just as an added benefit.

Does anyone want to tell this person? I'm not sure what would be worse - sacking Brady from a job he doesn't currently hold or giving the job to Jason McCartney when there's someone else doing that job.

 

[Passmore]

Daniel has aged from 28 to 31 since joining.

 

[The Brady Bunch]

Daniel has aged from 28 to 31 since joining.

He's probably shorter as well.

 

[The Talent Scout]

He's probably shorter as well.

And without the helmet.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

I have been in China for werk (business class no wifi get real QANTAS) but just logged in to watch a replay of the draft. 1stly well done to Bradly and the team for nailing FOS at pick 2 where it can be hard to find a top talent. Then trading a futuristic first (realistically pick 10-14) for pick 19 next year and the best tall in the draft was superb. I have Farkhausen and Stephens in my top 32 picks so to get them in the latter rounds is a real feather in the box.

Hahahahahahaha

 

[chubbspeterson]

According to draft pick points values, on a purepoints value basis, we'd need to finish with pick 7 or 8 next year to make the F1 for 25 and F2 (assuming its as high as 19) roughly equivalent. I have no confidence we'd make the big leap to winning the 8 or 9 games neccessary to get to that level, way more likely we're still bottom 4 next year with pick 3 or 4, in which case another 2nd or 3rd round pick would make it equal.

Obviously points value have no bearing on whether the player picked at each spot is good or not, but generally top 5 picks have a much better chance of turning out good, than second and third rounders. You need to get more stabs at it with more picks to make trading out a top pick worth it, my belief is we should have been able to at least get another 2nd or 3rd in the deal for our F1. Usually when a F1 is traded, it would be for a late first + something, given the main body of our trade was second rounders, surely there should have been something else, given reasonable expectations we'll still stink in 2025

Yep I think a top 15 and top 25 would've been more palatable than likely two 20's picks. We should've gotten more than 27 (even if technically it's the last pick in the 1st round) and a pick likely in the early/mid 20's next year after bids.
Maybe that's just the depth of this draft and teams not wanting to move out of it or maybe it will be a sign of the times going forward with swapping futures.

I predict that the points system will be largely irrelevant going forward with trades involving future picks.
There will be too much variation in what the pick numbers will end up being year on year with F/S and academy bids, so comparing value might become a bit tricky. Also, not sure how they can predict what those future picks will be next year accurately. It will be like taking a leap of faith somewhat as to what the future picks end up being and they probably become less valuable because of the uncertainty. Sure you'll always have that Ashcroft/Lombard/Uwland kid who's a pretty obvious top 10 gun F/S or NGA as an underage player, but 12 months of development into kids can change rankings dramatically (Tauru rising this year, Moraes falling into the 30's) on who ends up where.

Going forward I think it will come down to how much that team wants another pick or player before their 2nd round selection and how much they are willing to pay. It's an easier risk to take when you are mid table or a finals team.
It's likely teams won't full scale rebuild anymore, so they'll just identify a draft class they like and load up on 4-5 picks inside 40 by splitting selections and/or trading heavily into it with future selections.
So future picks value will be interesting to watch the next few years and what the strength of the draft does to them too.

 

[Pravda Roo]

Hahahahahahaha

My contact in th e industries think we can rocket up the ladder and with current A4 and premiership players having a line I'm confidant we can make the playoffs or at least the play-off tournament.