Injury Blue Healers Discussion - 2024

[Aphrodite]

Latest Injury Update 3rd September …

AFL injury news: Seven facing tests

Updates leading into the elimination final.

www.carltonfc.com.au

UPDATES on 12 Blues ahead of this week's elimination final:-

Sam Docherty (knee)
- Available for selection this week

Charlie Curnow (ankle)
- Availability: test

Harry McKay (quad)
- Availability: test

Mitch McGovern (hamstring)
- Availability: test

Jack Martin (hamstring)
- Availability: test

Adam Cerra (hamstring)
- Availability: test

Zac Williams (hamstring)
- Availability: test

Tom De Koning (foot)
- Availability: test

Jordan Boyd (adductor)

• Completing his running program
• Availability: TBC

Sam Durdin (calf)
- Availability: 2-3 weeks

Hudson O’Keeffe (hamstring)

• Returned to full training
• Availability: 1-2 weeks

Caleb Marchbank (concussion)

• Continues to be monitored and a further update will be provided as he progresses
• Availability: TBC

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Docs not playing finals. Running in straight lines and doing basic skills drills is miles and miles off complete rehab for an ACL. The pressure put on the knee from high speed agility seen in game is 100x anything he's doing right now

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

McStay is coming back after 6.5 months which is miles ahead of schedule. Even that would put Doc just in for the GF.

It will be interesting to see how it works out for McStay. Seems risky to me but they don't take 12months in the States so who knows.

Mcstay did his ACL in late November. That's not 6.5 months, a long way from it.

 

[Lukeblueboy]

Mcstay did his ACL in November. That's not 6.5 months, a long way from it.

There saying it was around an 8 month turnaround

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

There saying it was around an 8 month turnaround

Right. Now say you're Michael Voss... Are you selecting a player coming off his 3rd ACL after an 8 month turnaround when his first game back would be tracking to be in a Grand Final? Doch might say he's right to go, but unless he's somehow going to manage a 6 month recovery for the biggest injury in footy, play multiple games in the VFL to get match fitness, then prove himself capable for AFL level over a couple of games and then put his hand up to play the Grand Final...There is a 0% chance of this occurring.

No player, even Crippa or Charlie, is going to be selected to play in a Grand Final off 0 preparation.

Max Holmes didn't even get selected in a team he starred in all season long in 2022 because he had a a very minor hamstring injury. The risk is too great to lose a key rotation early in the biggest game of the year.

 

[Lukeblueboy]

Right. Now say you're Michael Voss... Are you selecting a player coming off his 3rd ACL after an 8 month turnaround when his first game back would be tracking to be in a Grand Final? Doch might say he's right to go, but unless he's somehow going to manage a 6 month recovery for the biggest injury in footy, play multiple games in the VFL to get match fitness, then prove himself capable for AFL level over a couple of games and then put his hand up to play the Grand Final...There is a 0% chance of this occurring.

No player, even Crippa or Charlie, is going to be selected to play in a Grand Final off 0 preparation.

Max Holmes didn't even get selected in a team he starred in all season long in 2022 because he had a a very minor hamstring injury. The risk is too great to lose a key rotation early in the biggest game of the year.

Yeah fully understand your point wash.
It’s highly unlikely, but interesting none the less

 

[Bongo Drum]

Mmm. And yet, it's Doc.

A 6 month turnaround after ACL reco is pretty near impossible.

He would struggle to be ready for full contact training by September, let alone a full H&A game, let alone a final.

Nobody deserves a chance to play finals and be a chance for a premiership medal more than Doc but it won't be this year unfortunately.

 

[teddy-hopkins]

Perhaps, but he's performed well enough for long enough to deserve the benefit of the doubt.

Not really the benefit of the doubt. That's benefit of the fiction.

 

[myblueroan]

Look, it was just a whimsical post!
Let it go peeps!

 

[RPCB]

You monsters! Horsey’s getting upset.

 

[katmanblue]

Lots of players have various body parts strapped, that doesn't necessarily mean they injured those pre-match.

It was after the warm up. They'd be strapped pregame if the issue was pre-existing.

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[katmanblue]

**** the jinx.

That would be weird.

Jinx is my mate's cat.

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[katmanblue]

Gov’s issue is Drama

Lack of sleep watching Euro 2024 maybe...

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[katmanblue]

An ACL suffered in March and a return from it in September seems incredibly unlikely.

Are there degrees of "did an ACL"?

Could it have been a very minor tear or something?

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[katmanblue]

Every sport I've played, or triathlon I've competed in I've strapped my ankles and 99.9% of AFL players most likely do too. He probably rolled it in warm-up and the existing tape did its job and as commonplace they'd have re-wrapped it for him as his initial taping would be compromised and need to be re-done.

That was my point.

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[RPCB]

Are there degrees of "did an ACL"?

Could it have been a very minor tear or something?

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I have no idea.

 

[Mr Blonde]

A 6 month turnaround after ACL reco is pretty near impossible.

He would struggle to be ready for full contact training by September, let alone a full H&A game, let alone a final.

Nobody deserves a chance to play finals and be a chance for a premiership medal more than Doc but it won't be this year unfortunately.

Tyson Goldsack did it in 5 months in 2018.

‘It is remarkable to say he only tore his ACL five months ago’: Tyson Goldsack completes remarkable return in the west

The remarkable return of a Magpie who looked finished

www.foxsports.com.au

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[AceAndy]

Look, it was just a whimsical post!
Let it go peeps!

What exactly did you say ?

I am too lazy to go back in the thread and work it out

 

[Bongo Drum]

Tyson Goldsack did it in 5 months in 2018.

‘It is remarkable to say he only tore his ACL five months ago’: Tyson Goldsack completes remarkable return in the west

The remarkable return of a Magpie who looked finished

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That's a very rare exception to the rule. Some players are capable of healing a bit faster than others but again they're extremely rare.

I remember Tom Liberatore returning after about 5 months post ACL in the 90s.

Be that as it may, 99% (probably closer to 99.9%) of players don't return within 6 months of an ACL reco.

 

[myblueroan]

What exactly did you say ?

I am too lazy to go back in the thread and work it out

I said I found it interesting that they reported on Doc's progress in the injury report...and that maybe the person who said Doc is trying to make it back for finals was on to something.

 

[AceAndy]

I said I found it interestingcthat they reported on Doc's progress in the injury report...and that maybe the person who said Doc is trying to make it back for finals was on to something.

Gosh that is a controversial thing to say

 

[gbatman]

The question is, where will Docherty's rehab be after 7 weeks of skills training?

 

[I bleed Blue]

That's a very rare exception to the rule. Some players are capable of healing a bit faster than others but again they're extremely rare.

I remember Tom Liberatore returning after about 5 months post ACL in the 90s.

Be that as it may, 99% (probably closer to 99.9%) of players don't return within 6 months of an ACL reco.

 

[Accidental genius]

Every sport I've played, or triathlon I've competed in I've strapped my ankles and 99.9% of AFL players most likely do too. He probably rolled it in warm-up and the existing tape did its job and as commonplace they'd have re-wrapped it for him as his initial taping would be compromised and need to be re-done.

Have you ever had an eversion ankle sprain - when your ankle bends inwards?

I’ve never taped my ankles and went through a ton of normal ankle sprains and only recently suffered my first ankle eversion. I think i need to start taping.

 

[katmanblue]

That's a very rare exception to the rule. Some players are capable of healing a bit faster than others but again they're extremely rare.

I remember Tom Liberatore returning after about 5 months post ACL in the 90s.

Be that as it may, 99% (probably closer to 99.9%) of players don't return within 6 months of an ACL reco.

Libba's was Lars surgery.

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[Bongo Drum]

Libba's was Lars surgery.

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didn't realise it was Lars, thanks for that... explains how he returned so quickly.