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No need to replace Mena BUT if somehow we do find better options we will go very deep into Sept.
Not sure how pointing out one reason why the 4 players mentioned were selected to play means I don't rate any or all of them.
Anyway :
It would be nice to see what happens if Cockatoo and Scooter stand up, Constable gets traction and one of Dahlhous or Rohan gets cracking ( in Menegola case)).
Menegola would be in our first 15 picked each week, the talk that his spot in the side is under pressure is bullshit to be frank.
You could say he's training the house down.
If that were true why was Cunico dropped? why didnt GHS get games or Thurlow
they might not be permanent solutions but they fill some needs
Because Menegola stayed fit .
The ones to push him out last year were Cockatoo and McCarthy.
GHS and Thurlow had proven themselves to be short of the standard GFC expected.
Cunico showed a bit but IMO was not ready and a little timid (like Parsons). Menegola had him easily covered
Apart from the 1st Hawks game the times Danger played forward last year we lacked drive through the middle, and we're absolutely smashed on the score board, then when moved back on ball he sparked our come backs so the last thing I want to see is our best mid away from the action.
Watch us against Richmond and Melbourne this year and you'll see what I mean. We wouldn't beat either of them next year if Danger is FF.I completely disagree. We smashed Sydney in the semi final with Danger sitting at full forward most of the day. Last year he only rested forward and rarely missed center bounces. Considering for most of the year we were smashed around the centre I don't really see how moving him would hugely hurt us there.
Kiss of death..You could say he's training the house down.
Watch us against Richmond and Melbourne this year and you'll see what I mean. We wouldn't beat either of them next year if Danger is FF.
Nah, Cowan was woeful, not even VFL material.I was going to like your comment till the last paragraph.
We played 5 games against those. We won the midfield battle in 2 out of those 5. They were round 1 against Melbourne when Dangerfield didn't play and round 13 against the Tigers when Danger's impact wasn't huge (only 20 touches and only 2 out of 17 centre clearances). In the others we were dominated depite Dangerfield playing mich bigger roles.
Look at the games where he got 8+ clearances. They were: West Coast away, Carlton at home, Adelaide away, Melbourne at home, Richmond in round 20 and Hawthorn in round 21. We were easily second best in all those games except West Coast and Carlton which was arguably our worst performance of the year. In our best performances (Melbourne round 1, Sydney away, Port away, Richmond the first time, Collingwood) he got far fewer clearances and played less time in midfield. Last year Dangerfield playing a lot in the midfield was actually correlated with us playing badly not playing well. His importance to our midfield is vastly overstated.
Nah, Cowan was woeful, not even VFL material.
But agree, Parsons needs work on his game if he wants to be Best 22. I still have some hope for him, he's only 21.
You do remember he won a Brownlow playing in the midfield don't you?His importance to our midfield is vastly overstated.
Wonder why?Or if we where losing we would keep Dangerfield in the midfield for more minutes.
Direct quote from a member of the recruiting team: “Rohan was dirt cheap, and is a bit of a punt”I think Dahlhaus is looking rejuvenated in the Cats environment, I think his form will improve from his past season.
I think Rohan will be rated internally, but not so much from the supporter base due to our obsession with the statistics. I think he will do his job, but I'm not expecting anything more than 12 touches a game from him, perhaps a goal a game, and some good run-down tackling.
Or if we where losing we would keep Dangerfield in the midfield for more minutes. When we were winning our coaches felt more comfortable to send him forward
You do remember he won a Brownlow playing in the midfield don't you?
A fully fit Danger would be the best midfielder in the comp.
To say that Danger is the worst performing part of the team when we lose finals is ridiculous. Best MID in the comp.Yes I do. There's absolutely no doubt that he can do incredible things to win the footy. But he's also perhaps the least accountable midfielder in the league. And when it matters in finals he's been found out time and time again leaving our defence exposed by making really poor mistakes. The fact is when he was fully fit and played as a midfielder in finals he's been a liability. Yes he can do the incredible and against poor teams he looks great because his mistakes aren't punished but he's yet to play a decent final as a midfielder (if you say the Sydney PF in 2016 then look at the first quarter where his mistakes directly led to most of their goals and the game being finished as a contest).
The fact is we need to improve as a team in finals. The best way to do that is to look at the worst performing part of the team when we lose finals and that has been the midfield, and more specifically Dangerfield, every single time. We know he's a brilliant forward and we know his defensive frailty will hurt us less there and the one time we tried it in finals it worked brilliantly. I know it's a crazy idea but maybe if we want to fix our finals problems we should start by doing the thing that worked so well when we actually had a great win in a final recently.
You should really go back and watch the games from this season when Danger was played forward to see just how bad we got smashed at centre clearances. He spent full quarters forward without even touching the ball because we couldn't win it in there and get it to him. He is wasted forward. To suggest the team struggles because Danger is playing midfield is crazy.Is the suggestion that he helped us do well and then they took him out of midfield? That doesn't really match with the results. The games where our midfield did really well we didn't really open up a gap on the opposition. Port away and Sydney away were tight in the last quarter. Richmond the first time was close all day until they kicked away late and Melbourne he didn't play so wasn't responsible for the lead we opened up. Collingwood's the only match against a good team where we really opened up alead early.
I agree that when games were close or we were behind we rarely if ever moved Danger out of midfield. The problem is that it didn't work and there was a clear correlation between Danger getting lots of clearances and the team struggling.
And here i was thinking am i the only one to see that.You should really go back and watch the games from this season when Danger was played forward to see just how bad we got smashed at centre clearances. He spent full quarters forward without even touching the ball because we couldn't win it in there and get it to him. He is wasted forward. To suggest the team struggles because Danger is playing midfield is crazy.
You should really go back and watch the games from this season when Danger was played forward to see just how bad we got smashed at centre clearances. He spent full quarters forward without even touching the ball because we couldn't win it in there and get it to him. He is wasted forward. To suggest the team struggles because Danger is playing midfield is crazy.
I expect the coaches will be asking him to perform some dirty deeds?Direct quote from a member of the recruiting team: “Rohan was dirt cheap, and is a bit of a punt”