Australia will grow to like Tony Abbott as PM

[Pessimistic]

Europe has a free movement of labour within it borders, Is a free marketer's dream. but when it doesn't fit the agenda, we need to call in the troops.
I realise refugees need to enter a EU country first by the way.

That's the dangerous bit, calling in the troops

These people are absolute fakes. I'm more in danger from my own country's politicians than an army of terrorists

 

[madmug]

Some people will backlash no matter the level of people movement. They should be ignored and disenfranchised like extremists on the other side.
If climate change is added to the drivers of desperate people on the move, people like tony will have is spending 80% of whats left of the economy on border control (like its really worked well in mexico)

Like Gough said. Absolute lightweight

Yes I too have little time for a biggot like Abbott. Climate change will affect Australia as well. The drying Australian climate will bring its own challenges to sustainability & our ability to support a bigger population at a decent standard of living/quality of life.

Unfortunately the biggots will use all this to hide their hate & racism.

Again we/Europe need an orderly migration system to help refugees & screen economic migrants.

When it comes to biggots, I include Islamic countries who have done SFA to help the situation.

 

[GuruJane]

Europe has a free movement of labour within it borders, Is a free marketer's dream. but when it doesn't fit the agenda, we need to call in the troops.
I realise refugees need to enter a EU country first by the way.

So anyone can go to any EU country and then ,move to another EU country and work and live there legally.
Can they Pess? Really?
Like you? Or your children? Really and truly?

 

[Nikita Blue]

My "living in England in 2 years" prediction is looking slow.

Why is Margie still going along with the charade?

Is she wearing a handcuff? Maybe that explains it.

 

[pazza]

Is she wearing a handcuff? Maybe that explains it.

Nah her hands up his arse making him grimace!

 

[swingdog]

Good, behind the scenes of the Abbott take-down:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...ll-staged-a-coup/story-fn59niix-1227574950588

 

[GuruJane]

Europe has a free movement of labour within it borders, Is a free marketer's dream. but when it doesn't fit the agenda, we need to call in the troops.

And on the subject of you posting tosh, Pessimistic, the EU has permitted free movement of labour within its borders for some years - to residents of other EU countries.

Please enlighten us as to when the EU extended this right to everybody else in the world who rocks up?

 

[Pessimistic]

Middle east countries/isla

And on the subject of you posting tosh, Pessimistic, the EU has permitted free movement of labour within its borders for some years - to residents of other EU countries.

Please enlighten us as to when the EU extended this right to everybody else in the world who rocks up?

So whats the waiting period. Its been 2 years for a new new zealander before yo can flit across to oz

 

[GuruJane]

Middle east countries/isla


So whats the waiting period. Its been 2 years for a new new zealander before yo can flit across to oz

Excuse me, this is tad incoherent Pess. When did Middle East citizens get the same rights as citizens of the EU?
When did everybody else in the world get the same rights to work and settle in EU as citizens of EU countries?

And at what point did everybody else in the world get the right to settle in Australia as citizens just because they arrive here?

 

[Malifice]

Excuse me, this is tad incoherent Pess. When did Middle East citizens get the same rights as citizens of the EU?
When did everybody else in the world get the same rights to work and settle in EU as citizens of EU countries?

And at what point did everybody else in the world get the right to settle in Australia as citizens just because they arrive here?

When we signed and ratified the UN Convention on Refugees?

It creates all the above rights (and more). For refugees.

 

[Pessimistic]

Excuse me, this is tad incoherent Pess. When did Middle East citizens get the same rights as citizens of the EU?
When did everybody else in the world get the same rights to work and settle in EU as citizens of EU countries?

And at what point did everybody else in the world get the right to settle in Australia as citizens just because they arrive here?

Clearly the first bits of text were just ipad refugees from another thread. Anyway whats the fasciation with this tangent when I clearly set the scope of history at milennia. EEC or EU is younger than you or I

 

[GuruJane]

Clearly the first bits of text were just ipad refugees from another thread. Anyway whats the fasciation with this tangent when I clearly set the scope of history at milennia. EEC or EU is younger than you or I

Milennia? What date would that be?

 

[Pessimistic]

For jane


No it isn't !

 

[GuruJane]

What date are you referring to?

 

[GuruJane]

When we signed and ratified the UN Convention on Refugees?

It creates all the above rights (and more). For refugees.

Yes once they have arrived and claimed asylum, until then they are illegal according to the convention.

That's the whole point of the turn back policy Malcolm Turnbull and Peter Dutton are ruthlessly pursuing. Isn't it?

 

[Pessimistic]

What date are you referring to?

What on earth are you going on about ?

 

[GuruJane]

Millenia Pess. Which actual date are you referring to? You know, the last time Europe was over run from outside?

 

[Pessimistic]

Millenia Pess. Which actual date are you referring to? You know, the last time Europe was over run from outside?

did you read that before posting ? I said genes of so called indigenous Europeans show ancestors came from all over Africa, Asia, Europe.

its been happening since before dates were invented, so why are arbitrary dates relevant at all ? But you do know that and are just acting out the monty python sketch repeatedly

I find it incredible when an ex PM delivers a speech full of inconsistencies and crap that you are so focused on the messenger so to speak

I can, however, give you a good date on when Australia was invaded by foreign hoards, tides of humanity though - roundabout 1788 onwards

wow, people actually leave Europe as well. didn't hear Tony asking that they be locked in as well

 

[Gough]

He was PM for under two years, and achieved next to nothing, happy to simply wreck. He has to talk himself up a legacy, nobody else will, it's telling he considers human rights abuse to be one of his finest achievements.

 

[romeohwho]

He was PM for under two years, and achieved next to nothing, happy to simply wreck. He has to talk himself up a legacy, nobody else will, it's telling he considers human rights abuse to be one of his finest achievements.

Exactly. Says it all really, doesn't it. Actually proud of himself. Clueless.

 

[Sydney Bloods]

can the UK keep him this time?

 

[Chief]

wow, people actually leave Europe as well. didn't hear Tony asking that they be locked in as well

Including his own parents running from the London blitz. To Australia.

 

[Chief]

I was always willing to consider that Tony was only using the abuse of vulnerable people to further his political career, and maybe even believed the "we're saving lives" malarkey, and wasn't doing it because he actually thought brown people are inferior.

Now we know different.

 

[apparentlydead]

can the UK keep him this time?

Apparently asking for this is considered as racist by some.

Go figure

 

[Sydney Bloods]

Apparently asking for this is considered as racist by some.

Go figure

i'm just using his own government's understanding of immigration.
its clearly safe for abbott to return to the UK as the second world war has finished so i'm fairly sure his god wants him to stay there.