Australia v India - pre series discussion

[dogs105]

insanity to use a guy from 30 years ago as a good reason he'll make it, 43 bats is a lot of cricket and at 26 .

Ah, I'm not arguing that he'll make it. I'm saying it's a bit silly to say that he won't.

 

[Gough]

Steve Waugh was one of the long line of next Miller's when he was first picked.

 

[Cleavy]

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/...ws-story/dc42abcaef3b77986ef9153b7d718530?amp (paywall)

"But if there’s one thing we know about the Australia and India rivalry, it’s that there are often battles within the battle. Head-to-head rivalries, some which have extended beyond a decade, all that will have an impact on how the series is won and lost."
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oh, like EVERY bloody series?!?!

 

[jannissary]

i think this series has the potential of being disastrous for us.

youngest player in the side is mcsweeny. i hope he has a good run at it, but he's also 25 years old. our next youngest is 29 (inglis, who may not even get a game realistically). where does this put the future of our test team? who's meant to replace starc, cummins, hazlewood & lyon (amongst others) who're all 33 & above. i don't really follow domestic cricket anymore due to time constraints, but is there anyone in the shield who'll be pushing to replace any of these players?

 

[Around the Wicket]

McSweeney does have the best technique out of the options available and the most patience so I think the selectors got it right for once.. hopefully he starts well because if he starts to doubt himself he may nic off the whole series early.

 

[the_interloper]

McSweeney does have the best technique out of the options available and the most patience so I think the selectors got it right for once.. hopefully he starts well because if he starts to doubt himself he may nic off the whole series early.

Yeah I mean we need two openers and I think we've got the best two available, all you can do is pick em and hope they do well.

 

[Around the Wicket]

I'm putting $1000 on that

 

[cricketnut14]

i think this series has the potential of being disastrous for us.

youngest player in the side is mcsweeny. i hope he has a good run at it, but he's also 25 years old. our next youngest is 29 (inglis, who may not even get a game realistically). where does this put the future of our test team? who's meant to replace starc, cummins, hazlewood & lyon (amongst others) who're all 33 & above. i don't really follow domestic cricket anymore due to time constraints, but is there anyone in the shield who'll be pushing to replace any of these players?

probably time to skip half a generation - forget about looking at bancroft, harris and even renshaw.
it's why warner hung around without being dropped as his worst was bancroft & co's best in the international arena.

i think the only issue we have is finding anyone genuine batsmen that can grind out an innings or bat for a day.

if we can invest some time into quality bats, we'll be fine if mcsweeney is a success and green with marnus and head still about for 5 years.

 

[Around the Wicket]

i think the only issue we have is finding anyone genuine batsmen that can grind out an innings or bat for a day.

main issue with this is the youngsters are trying to be sloggers to cash in on the T20 leagues.

 

[cricketnut14]

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I'm putting $1000 on that

i hope sydney provides a few days of sunshine then

 

[sabso]

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Hi Pidge

 

[Jim Prideaux]

i think this series has the potential of being disastrous for us.

youngest player in the side is mcsweeny. i hope he has a good run at it, but he's also 25 years old. our next youngest is 29 (inglis, who may not even get a game realistically). where does this put the future of our test team? who's meant to replace starc, cummins, hazlewood & lyon (amongst others) who're all 33 & above. i don't really follow domestic cricket anymore due to time constraints, but is there anyone in the shield who'll be pushing to replace any of these players?

Bowlers we have fairly decent cover with the likes of Bartlett, Green, Morris, O’Neil, McAndrew, Paris, Murphy, Rocchiccioli. Bats we are less blessed.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Bowlers we have fairly decent cover with the likes of Bartlett, Green, Morris, O’Neil, McAndrew, Paris, Murphy, Rocchiccioli. Bats we are less blessed.

Buckingham imo probably the best of the lot surely you can’t rely on Paris, Morris and Bartlett they can’t stay on the park

 

[sabso]

Buckingham imo probably the best of the lot surely you can’t rely on Paris, Morris and Bartlett they can’t stay on the park

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He also currently has more wickets than runs in both FC and List A.

 

[Jim Prideaux]

Buckingham imo probably the best of the lot surely you can’t rely on Paris, Morris and Bartlett they can’t stay on the park

I knew I’d forgotten someone

 

[whatwhatsaywhat]

i think this series has the potential of being disastrous for us.

youngest player in the side is mcsweeny. i hope he has a good run at it, but he's also 25 years old. our next youngest is 29 (inglis, who may not even get a game realistically). where does this put the future of our test team? who's meant to replace starc, cummins, hazlewood & lyon (amongst others) who're all 33 & above. i don't really follow domestic cricket anymore due to time constraints, but is there anyone in the shield who'll be pushing to replace any of these players?

replacing a once-in-a-generation bowling unit ain't easy...

oztraya's cricketing ethos has ALWAYS been 'win now'

when it counts - test series, world cups - more often than not they've been proven to get it right

look at the quicks in the u/19 world cup win earlier this year - beardman, vidler (plus whitney who took 8 wickets in the last shield outing and has just turned 22) - for who will hopefully be emerging in the next five years

 

[jannissary]

replacing a once-in-a-generation bowling unit ain't easy...

oztraya's cricketing ethos has ALWAYS been 'win now'

when it counts - test series, world cups - more often than not they've been proven to get it right

look at the quicks in the u/19 world cup win earlier this year - beardman, vidler (plus whitney who took 8 wickets in the last shield outing and has just turned 22) - for who will hopefully be emerging in the next five years

it certainly isn’t, but surely there’d be someone in line that’s actually genuinely pushing selection, no?

 

[Voice of the G]

Yeah I mean we need two openers and I think we've got the best two available, all you can do is pick em and hope they do well.

If only the Vic.selectors would give Harry Dixon a extended go in the shield and red ball cricket and keep him away from white ball cricket especially T20.To much T20 type cricket in the 1 day stuff at the moment,remember Dean Jones in the old days just pushing it around along the ground for 2,s and 3,s and the occasional 4,s in a run a ball stuff.

 

[Golumless]

i think this series has the potential of being disastrous for us.

youngest player in the side is mcsweeny. i hope he has a good run at it, but he's also 25 years old. our next youngest is 29 (inglis, who may not even get a game realistically). where does this put the future of our test team? who's meant to replace starc, cummins, hazlewood & lyon (amongst others) who're all 33 & above. i don't really follow domestic cricket anymore due to time constraints, but is there anyone in the shield who'll be pushing to replace any of these players?

In the future, and it will sort itself out.

Really, it's probably something similar to the late 00's. As people retire, there will be a somewhat rough period for 4-5 years before the next generation cements itself - and as people get opportunities when they arise, some of them will run with it.

 

[Jim Prideaux]

it certainly isn’t, but surely there’d be someone in line that’s actually genuinely pushing selection, no?

They seem to run them (the quicks anyway) through A games and white ball stuff. I think with young fast bowlers that’s fine

 

[jannissary]

They seem to run them (the quicks anyway) through A games and white ball stuff. I think with young fast bowlers that’s fine

i do suppose you’re correct, ultimately in comparison to batting you’d not really end up butchering your bowling playing shorter forms of cricket

 

[Jim Prideaux]

it certainly isn’t, but surely there’d be someone in line that’s actually genuinely pushing selection, no?

For an example - https://www.cricket.com.au/videos/3...irst-odi-australia-west-indies-highlights-mcg

 

[Jim Prideaux]

i do suppose you’re correct, ultimately in comparison to batting you’d not really end up butchering your bowling playing shorter forms of cricket

Particularly ODIs as a quick, young quicks tend not to bowl long spells when the first play 5-day cricket as it is

 

[Whiskers]

Hang on, I thought we were preparing for tests? No one could play the deciding ODI yet here is Carey playing for SA in a one dayer.

How does that work? Are we concentrating on tests or not?

 

[74561347]

Hang on, I thought we were preparing for tests? No one could play the deciding ODI yet here is Carey playing for SA in a one dayer.

How does that work? Are we concentrating on tests or not?

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