Rack Watts
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Leuenberger.
Not sure this needs to be a thread tbh.
Not sure this needs to be a thread tbh.
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Leuenberger clearly last in terms of stats....
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Leuenberger. Cause he's the tallest.
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But Luey played deep forward in a basket case of a side quite often last year. That would have impacted his stats considerably.
Luey is our 1st ruck and by some distance I believe.
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yeah fair enough - I didn't see much of him at the lions last year and if hes had to play forward instead of his natural game in the ruck that would have impacted stats for sure. still think Smack deserves a crack though - let TBell & Leuy fight over second position...
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Rack Watts
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They played him as a full-forward last year, which is why he wanted to leave, he is a potential AA ruckman.
Bellchambers is good when he's not whinging about injury.
McKernan is an extremely tall midfielder.
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eth-dog
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In the two games he played without Martin (playing #1 ruck), Leuenberger got 93 hitouts
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wow - didnt know that...so I guess based on that hes number 1...
eth-dog
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Another way to put it (given most would agree Luey looks like being no 1 at the moment): who is the better/gives most value forward/backup ruck out of Belly and McKernan?
I'd side with smack at this point .... Very impressed with what he did in 2015, including vfl.
I'd side with smack at this point .... Very impressed with what he did in 2015, including vfl.
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. I say Daniher, but nobody ever listens to me.
But rucking ...
I guess the issue has been, apart from being poor so far in the ruck, it has seemed to be a risk to test his durability in the ruck when he has been our only genuine KPF... Daniher is a weird beast, hard to say exactly what he'll become; hopefully with more support that'll will pave the way for him further push his leading/jumping/marking/derp-fist-pumping/50+goals a year agenda.
In terms of balance Leuenberger as first ruck with Mckernan giving 5 minutes of relief ruck work each quarter is probably the best combo. I think Mckernan will end up being a much better forward than Bellchambers. Bellchambers may kick as many goals as Mckernan (if played up forward) but will do far less around the ground. I think Leuenberger is just a better tap ruckman albeit nothing special around the ground. However after a year of getting trashed in the hitouts - i just want a ruckman that can actually win the hitouts and then i'll back the mids to do the other work.
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Yeah, I have faith that as he matures he could begin to have a real impact for us in the middle of the ground, but he is sadly lacking in ruck experience at present. I think he's smart enough, tall enough, and he'll get stronger.
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Smack is just such a versatile player. Extremely agile when the ball hits the deck for a man his size.
Very hard match up given his reach when contested marking. Provides ruck relief.
Also he's a bloke who's been delisted. Every game is something he doesn't take for granted.
#smackthesaviour
Very hard match up given his reach when contested marking. Provides ruck relief.
Also he's a bloke who's been delisted. Every game is something he doesn't take for granted.
#smackthesaviour
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Daniher is just a shit ruck.
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For me it depends on whether TBC is played as a CHF/FF. If there is no intention to play TBC at CHF/FF then Mckernan is the better 3rd tall because of his mobility. We just get too slow with all of JD, TBC and Hooker up forward, whereas JD, Hooker and Mckernan looks about right.
But the idea of Mckernan being our first choice ruck is laughable.
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Wow Ethan! Great moves, keep it up, proud of you.Fixed
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if we don't play TBC at FF, who will we blinding be bombing the ball to in the F50s?
the lack of having Tippa at CHF in this thread is disappointing
the lack of having Tippa at CHF in this thread is disappointing
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Even bigger issue is that he hasn't got the motor to ruck around the ground and then return to the forward line and be effective.
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I don't think it's the motor, I think he gets crashed into too much which makes him less effective IMO.
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The fact that Leuey is even being debated says a lot about the average intelligence of Dons supporters (*friendly banter!* 
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He absolutely monstered Sandilands in their game last year, when Stef Martin was out and he played first ruck.
7 disposals, 9 tackles (huge), 51 hitouts (wow), 2 goals (nice)
If he's fit, he's first ruck. That's all
If you guys play him forward or even worse, in the reserves, I will laugh. Loudly.
)He absolutely monstered Sandilands in their game last year, when Stef Martin was out and he played first ruck.
7 disposals, 9 tackles (huge), 51 hitouts (wow), 2 goals (nice)
If he's fit, he's first ruck. That's all
If you guys play him forward or even worse, in the reserves, I will laugh. Loudly.
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