AFL withdraws money for country footy for W.A

[The Falcon Strike]

You WA guys can afford to pay more, you have train drivers over there getting paid $230,000 a year.

Our football players don't get paid more...

 

[greatwhiteshark]

You WA guys can afford to pay more, you have train drivers over there getting paid $230,000 a year.

I think we should get a COLA here, most expensive place to live in Australia. lol

 

[questionable]

the guy from the WACFL was doing so well until he complained about money going to women and foreigners as if that's where all the AFL's budget goes

"I'd like to see where it actually goes. They're putting money into women's carnivals and inter- national carnivals and they're never going to get an AFL player out of any of those."

 

[Kwality]

give the swans zone rights to country wa...

How many players ex the Swans (Swan Districts WAFL) zone on the Pies list?
Which AFL club has any rights to a player from the Swans zone?

JA27, get with it !!

 

[telsor]

No...

The AFL should fund grassroots footy equally across all states. If $1.75 per participant is being funded in Victoria, the same should be applied in WA, SA, Tas. I can accept perhaps more may need to be spent in developing areas.

That is completely aside from the AFL wanting to get control of the revenue and profits from the two AFL clubs.

That's like saying the AFL won't fund country footy around Geelong, unless the GFC give up control of their revenue. Why would they do that? Or the EDFL doesn't get support unless the EFC give up control of their revenue.

Grassroots footy is a completely separate issue from two AFL sides. The only reason it looks complicated is because in addition to any national funding, the two WA teams also fund football locally as well.

Does Richmond do that? Does Richmond pour millions into the Ovens/Murray league?

Does WCE or Freo directly fund these things, or do they send money to the WAFL who does so?

Either way, the deal made between the (then) VFL and WAFL was that the WAFL controlled football in the state.

If you want the AFL to control football in WA as much as it does in the eastern states, then I'm sure they'll fund it equally.

 

[telsor]

I am not sure why the AFL continue to want to harm everything outside there world. Things in WA go fantastic, why try to change something that works so well?

If it's so great, why are you whining?

 

[greatwhiteshark]

If it's so great, why are you whining?

I am not whining, I just pointed out that we have it sorted here and don't need Demetriou and his chronies trying to muscle in and change things.
He has removed funding from grassroots football. How is that good for football?

 

[JRoo]

You would think...

The members of the WA clubs pay extortionately more for our memberships and access to games each year.

In fact, if the members of North / Bulldogs etc paid more than double for their memberships (bringing them to what we pay in WA) the Vic clubs wouldn't have financial issues.

That additional money is what significantly funds our large profits and also allows us to support local footy.

As soon as you ask a Victorian supporter how many millions their club spends supporting local footy - they all of a sudden go very quiet.

Which is due to both clubs owners, the WA Football Commission refusing for years to entertain any moves to build a larger stadium to meet the demand in WA for access to games. This refusal by the WAFC has allowed them to price gouge Freo and WC members and something they would rather not change.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

Does WCE or Freo directly fund these things, or do they send money to the WAFL who does so?

Either way, the deal made between the (then) VFL and WAFL was that the WAFL controlled football in the state.

If you want the AFL to control football in WA as much as it does in the eastern states, then I'm sure they'll fund it equally.

WCE and FReo pay 60% of their profits to the WAFC who look after WA football across the board.

We don't want the AFL to control footy here, in fact we don't even want them to visit us. AFL can run the AFL, we will run West Aussie football.

 

[master bate]

If it means less Cale Mortons and Hayden Ballantynes' then that has to be a good thing right?

 

[greatwhiteshark]

Which is due to both clubs owners, the WA Football Commission refusing for years to entertain any moves to build a larger stadium to meet the demand in WA for access to games. This refusal by the WAFC has allowed them to price gouge Freo and WC members and something they would rather not change.

That is very true JRoo but the facts are we pay twice what your members pay.
One would think if your club or others just added an extra $100 per membership then financially it would be better for your club.
Would your members not pay it?

 

[JRoo]

That is very true JRoo but the facts are we pay twice what your members pay.
One would think if your club or others just added an extra $100 per membership then financially it would be better for your club.
Would your members not pay it?

I was paying $5000 per year for a 3 game NMFC membership; how much is yours again?

North members having been contributing lots of $$$ to the club which will see the clubs debt reduce to about $2.7 million this year with a view to be debt free in 18 months.

That is very true JRoo but the facts are we pay twice what your members pay.

That would be your club owners fault you pay what you pay.

 

[DivideandMultiply]

This.

We keep hearing 2 things from WA to the AFL. (outside the comp itself)

"Keep out of WA football"
and
"Give us money"

Can people in WA not see that the two are tied together?

Errrrrr the AFL funds football across Australia, but is largely removed from WA which is funded primarily by WC and the state.

However, the AFL benefits from both the interest and players created by this situation.

Further to that, they get a net gain from equalization money they scoop off the clubs gate takings etc.

So, if anything it is the AFL saying, give us more money and surrender your licenses to the greater West Australian public.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

I was paying $5000 per year for a 3 game NMFC membership; how much is yours again?

North members having been contributing lots of $$$ to the club which will see the clubs debt reduce to about $2.7 million this year with a view to be debt free in 18 months.



That would be your club owners fault you pay what you pay.

$5000 for 3 game membership??? Do you get to sit on Brayshaws lap?

Our membership has tiers like everyones I guess. But mine personally is $600 for 11 games as a premium member. It goes up about about $30-50 Yearly

 

[JRoo]

$5000 for 3 game membership??? Do you get to sit on Brayshaws lap?

Our membership has tiers like everyones I guess. But mine personally is $600 for 11 games as a premium member. It goes up about about $30-50 Yearly

$5000 for 3 game membership??? Do you get to sit on Brayshaws lap?

It was under the Aylett Presidency and I was privy to all inner sanctum functions and seats at the presidents table as a guest prior to all 3 games.

Our membership has tiers like everyones I guess. But mine personally is $600 for 11 games as a premium member. It goes up about about $30-50 Yearly

If you removed the party that keeps bumping up the membership prices each year what do you think may happen to your clubs membership prices?

 

[DivideandMultiply]

If it means less Cale Mortons and Hayden Ballantynes' then that has to be a good thing right?

...and Harry Taylors, Jaeger O'Mearas, Nic Naitanuis, Lance Franklins and in your case Jesse Hogans.

 

[Papa G]

Who was the WAFL President back in the 1980's? Whoever it was, he and Max Basheer have a ****ing lot to answer for. Instead of fighting and doing back room deals to get a truely national football league off the ground they were more interested in trying to maintain their crumbling empires. Does anyone remember the the Player Retention Scheme the SANFL introduced back then? Jesus. So we end up with an expanded VFL with all power located in Melbourne, but old Maxy gets a stand at the new Adelaide Oval named after him (Even though he is fuming SA football is leaving the delapidated piece of shit at West Lakes that he was involved in building).

 

[RonSon]

Slight tangent... Surely Sydney's COLA allowance isn't actually funded by the AFL?

I'd imagine it's all atleast still coming from Sydney's coffers....

I'm pretty sure I read recently with all the talk about the COLA that it comes out of AFL coffers.


Sydney write a contract it goes to the AFL they sign it off and whack 10% of their cash on top.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

Who was the WAFL President back in the 1980's? Whoever it was, he and Max Basheer have a ******* lot to answer for. Instead of fighting and doing back room deals to get a truely national football league off the ground they were more interested in trying to maintain their crumbling empires. Does anyone remember the the Player Retention Scheme the SANFL introduced back then? Jesus. So we end up with an expanded VFL with all power located in Melbourne, but old Maxy gets a stand at the new Adelaide Oval named after him (Even though he is fuming SA football is leaving the delapidated piece of shit at West Lakes that he was involved in building).

Not sure who it was back then , but you are right they have a lot to answer for. They sold out the State to join a comp they had no say in how it run. Probably the biggest sporting mistake in the states history.

 

[yakka man]

If it's so great, why are you whining?

I'm not sure if you're mature enough to comment in this thread. WC supporters have made clear and informed posts and you are turning it into a WA vs Vic debate.

Freo and WC put millions of dollars into WA footy programs as it is, and now the AFL wants to take money away from Country footy (which has developed amazing footballers for the game) and waste it in expansion areas. For shame.

 

[clogged]

And WA is probably the biggers net contributor of players to the AFL.

Yep. Without the WAFC investing in junior football, there is no way Gold Coast would be the up and coming competitive outfit it looks like being.

 

[bkozican]

The AFL is like the US government.......enough said

 

[DivideandMultiply]

Yep. Without the WAFC investing in junior football, there is no way Gold Coast would be the up and coming competitive outfit it looks like being.

Harley Bennell, Jaerger O'Meara, David Swallow, Jack Martin and Brandon Matera... talk about WA talent vampires. The three highlighted are country products who have played in the regional leagues.

Oh and their coach is another WA product.

A ridiculous act of self sabotage by the AFL.

 

[Bacon Warrior]

You WA guys can afford to pay more, you have train drivers over there getting paid $230,000 a year.

So? Just because we can doesn't mean we should.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

I reckon the issue is they won't change their name from Western Australian Football Commission to AFL (WA).

It's poor branding and the word "football" confuses the hell out of people - how are we meant to know its not Gaelic or gridiron!!!!???