AFL withdraws money for country footy for W.A

[earthquake]

The AFL again shows it doesnt really care much for country W.A .
Withdrawing money from that area is wrong and and by doing so ,it will lead to the demise of many areas of country footy in WA.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/afl/19311669/afl-lets-down-wa-grassroots/




Country football legend Terry House has accused the AFL of abandoning the game at grassroots level in WA.
He expected the AFL's bid to wrest licences for West Coast and Fremantle away from the WA Football Commission would mean the end of the WACFL and rob country football bodies of any direct access to help in times of trouble.


Many top footballers have come from the country in WA .

Its a disgrace and the AFL must reinvest that money back to WA country footy ASAP.

Take COLA off the Swans is a start , that way you will have money .

 

[DanWA]

Always the way, the state that is keeping the whole country afloat gets robbed.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

WC & Freo pour millions into WA local footy.

Clubs complain of stadium deals etc - but none have to prop up grassroots footy (maybe SA I'm unsure) like the WA clubs do.

This is just another reason why the licenses should remain as is. At least WA footy, can support WA footy.

AFL media relations manager Patrick Keane confirmed the WACFL's funding had ceased "due to a number of key changes in our pathway program over the last two years for country and regional talent".
He admitted the AFL had seen greater value in increased funding for the North East Australian Football League - comprising teams from the Northern Territory, NSW, Queensland and the ACT - and for a side from WA's Kimberley in the national junior championships.

 

[1873 United]

Maybe if the WAFC would hand over the licenses, the AFL might be more accommodating.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

Maybe if the WAFC would hand over the licenses, the AFL might be more accommodating.

Why should we? We paid for them to prop up a failing VFL?

Profits from WC also funded Freo for many years when it was close to failing. As such, WA haven't relied on the AFL for bailouts, we have invested into our local clubs and as such the WAFC should benefit from such an investment.

Unless I am mistaken the A in AFL stands for Australia. It should be there to fund all of Australia.

The WA in WAFC stands for Western Australian, ergo - it is there to fund WA football.

How many millions do St Kilda pour into the local amateurs/country footy or VFA?

Didn't think so...

 

[Upgrayedd]

Maybe if the WAFC would hand over the licenses, the AFL might be more accommodating.

Tell me how many Blank Cheques the St Kilda football club has given out to suburban teams in Victoria compared to the WA football teams.

 

[UpForGrabs]

Maybe if the WAFC would hand over the licenses, the AFL might be more accommodating.

It cost $4 million to get the WCE license in 1986... why should it be simply handed back?

 

[MarkT2]

Why should we? .

WE?
Shouldn't WE be WCE and Freo members?
FMD the things people complain about.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

WE?
Shouldn't WE be WCE and Freo members?
FMD the things people complain about.

I am a member...

And also a participant in multiple levels of grassroots footy in WA

Yes this is "We"

 

[Tas]

It was always part of the agreement between the AFL and WAFC that the AFL keep out of football in WA, it is just a political move to free the licences from state control but doubt it is going to achieve the desired result.

 

[MarkT2]

It cost $4 million to get the WCE license in 1986... why should it be simply handed back?

Back?

 

[MarkT2]

I am a member...

And also a participant in multiple levels of grassroots footy in WA

Yes this is "We"

Members should control clubs. Clubs should control licences.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

Year by year it gets closer and closer, the complete destruction of every league big or small everywhere under the AFL.

Surely that was not the goal when the VFL wanted to expand?

It should be the total opposite. The AFL should be pumping millions into 2nd tier football as thats where they get their players from. Instead of 2nd tier football being demoted further on a yearly basis it should be increasing in popularity but no it is seen as something to destroy.
As long as Victoria is ok though.
As the years go by I just can't see how forming the AFL out of the VFL was good for football across Australia. It has decimated football across australia.

 

[Purple Suit]

Maybe if the WAFC would hand over the licenses, the AFL might be more accommodating.

Once you hand over control you lose all your bargaining power. We have already seen that the AFL would rather spend millions in untapped markets than support the foundation areas.

Who would trust the current administration of the AFL with the way they run it? The KGB were more transparent.

 

[jenny61_99]

It cost $4 million to get the WCE license in 1986... why should it be simply handed back?

Hang on - do West Coast actually own their license? Or does the WAFL? The SANFL owns Adelaide (and Ports) license and they fleece us constantly (Port not so much) to keep their competition alive. AFL is supposed to be taking control of the licenses for a while, then handing them to the Clubs. At least, that's the plan. Not sure what impact that will have on local or grass roots comps.

 

[telsor]

It was always part of the agreement between the AFL and WAFC that the AFL keep out of football in WA, it is just a political move to free the licences from state control but doubt it is going to achieve the desired result.

This.

We keep hearing 2 things from WA to the AFL. (outside the comp itself)

"Keep out of WA football"
and
"Give us money"

Can people in WA not see that the two are tied together?

 

[The_Reaper]

Hang on - do West Coast actually own their license? Or does the WAFL? The SANFL owns Adelaide (and Ports) license and they fleece us constantly (Port not so much) to keep their competition alive. AFL is supposed to be taking control of the licenses for a while, then handing them to the Clubs. At least, that's the plan. Not sure what impact that will have on local or grass roots comps.

The WAFC (which is seperate from the WAFL) owns the licenses and the WAFC has proven that it does act in the best interests of football in the state.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

This.

We keep hearing 2 things from WA to the AFL. (outside the comp itself)

"Keep out of WA football"
and
"Give us money"

Can people in WA not see that the two are tied together?

No...

The AFL should fund grassroots footy equally across all states. If $1.75 per participant is being funded in Victoria, the same should be applied in WA, SA, Tas. I can accept perhaps more may need to be spent in developing areas.

That is completely aside from the AFL wanting to get control of the revenue and profits from the two AFL clubs.

That's like saying the AFL won't fund country footy around Geelong, unless the GFC give up control of their revenue. Why would they do that? Or the EDFL doesn't get support unless the EFC give up control of their revenue.

Grassroots footy is a completely separate issue from two AFL sides. The only reason it looks complicated is because in addition to any national funding, the two WA teams also fund football locally as well.

Does Richmond do that? Does Richmond pour millions into the Ovens/Murray league?

 

[greatwhiteshark]

This.

We keep hearing 2 things from WA to the AFL. (outside the comp itself)

"Keep out of WA football"
and
"Give us money"

Can people in WA not see that the two are tied together?

Yes they are tied together but its not that simple and you know it.
The AFL run the Australian Football league. They do not run the WAFL. The WAFC run football in WA. They work with the AFL as much as they can to keep the AFL clubs happy and the WAFL clubs happy.
If the AFL are going to support grassroots football then they need to do it everywhere not just where it suits them.
WA never asks for money, not sure where that came from. This funding is part of a national structure and it has been removed in another bid to try and take control of football in WA.

If they take control of football in WA then they will look after the two AFL clubs and forget about the rest. is that good for football?
The Eagles and Dockers put more money into Football below them than the rest of the AFL clubs together.

Does your club Richmond have 60% of its profits every year put into football in the VFL and Below? Do collingwood? or anyone else?

I am not sure why the AFL continue to want to harm everything outside there world. Things in WA go fantastic, why try to change something that works so well?

 

[The Falcon Strike]

You would think grass roots footy would be continued to be funded... we have a pretty good junior comp in Brisbane and its funded by AFL QLD via the AFLBJ (Brisbane Juniors). I would expect the AFL QLD is funded by the AFL. Is there an AFL WA? Who runs the junior footy programs over there?

You would think...

The members of the WA clubs pay extortionately more for our memberships and access to games each year.

In fact, if the members of North / Bulldogs etc paid more than double for their memberships (bringing them to what we pay in WA) the Vic clubs wouldn't have financial issues.

That additional money is what significantly funds our large profits and also allows us to support local footy.

As soon as you ask a Victorian supporter how many millions their club spends supporting local footy - they all of a sudden go very quiet.

 

[The_Reaper]

And WA is probably the biggers net contributor of players to the AFL.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

You would think...

The members of the WA clubs pay extortionately more for our memberships and access to games each year.

In fact, if the members of North / Bulldogs etc paid more than double for their memberships (bringing them to what we pay in WA) the Vic clubs wouldn't have financial issues.

That additional money is what significantly funds our large profits and also allows us to support local footy.

As soon as you ask a Victorian supporter how many millions their club spends supporting local footy - they all of a sudden go very quiet.

And even giving 60% of our profits away the two AFL clubs are still extremely financial.

 

[JA27]

give the swans zone rights to country wa...

 

[thetank]

You WA guys can afford to pay more, you have train drivers over there getting paid $230,000 a year.

 

[radiojake]

Take COLA off the Swans is a start , that way you will have money .

Slight tangent... Surely Sydney's COLA allowance isn't actually funded by the AFL?

I'd imagine it's all atleast still coming from Sydney's coffers....