Trade McAsey, bundle up Lynch will him.
List Mgmt. Adelaide Crows 2021 List Management thread
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Ash is also an excellent ball user which you'd know if you watched him closely, he also has the speed, dare and want to take the game on...very suited to the style that looks to be the go with the new "stand" rule. Ash was the player I wanted for us when we held pick 4 as most would know. Both Lachlan Ash and Hayden Young are excellent ball users but Ash's speed and dare was always the big difference I saw. Mind you I don't think Ash will come cheap either.
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We can do better than Strachan even as a back up Ruck surely.
How have you seen Ash’s development?
I normally watch GWS games but haven’t been able to see any this year. His stats suggest he is building well into that uncontested receiving running defender type.
I’d be keen on him if he can be a Lachie Whitfield quality winger. But wouldn’t overpay if he will primarily be a running defender. We have Smith signed for several years and I’m ok with an experienced player in that role.
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Ronin was a mid all day. Fogarty played some bursts in there.
Ronin's numbers for a full-time mid don't support your argument.
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Gollant was always a high upside, long-term play. Murphy and O'Connor don't have the ceiling that Gollant does. They're good workmanlike players.
Murphy probably stays. I think O'Connor almost certainly leaves.
If Talia goes we have no control over what we get, it's AFL compo or nothing. I'm hoping Talia returns with the same refreshed body that we've seen from Tex and Sloane. He's also been playing under duress for years. I wonder if the guy that joined us that apparently works with the Burgess bloke has had something to do with repairing the damage to Tex and Sloane. High hopes for Talia I have.
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I know ash uses the ball well and has dash to his game a very promising player for sure. In my eyes though lukosius is the blue chip.option if he ever became available to us as he is almost key position height but also has a huge engine and an elite field kick which gives him the greatest versatility you could ask for. But hey..neither may ever pull on the crow tricolours but we can only hope
We'll be very hesitant to shed experience this year. If we lose our fringe performing seniors, it'll be left up the kids or the next unknown Keays/Crocker roll of the dice. We're not doing that. Salary cap clears this year, so I'd be asking them to back themselves in and give them more $ but 1 year only. Which is what was reported around here as happening with Sauce.
JIB is top notch with the bluster, not so good on the assessment.
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For those doing the math - I reckon we will take three picks in the draft, plus Dudley and O'Laughlin.
I also think we trade in at least one player.
So, before we look to upgrade anyone from the rookie to the main list, we have to make six main list cuts.
I also think we trade in at least one player.
So, before we look to upgrade anyone from the rookie to the main list, we have to make six main list cuts.
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Big year for many of the Crows' lads. It's easy to speculate, but I'm only brave enough to predict these four list management 'certainties'.
1) Mackay - Delisted (it's happening......)
2) Davis - Delisted
3) Tex - 1-Year Contract
4) Doedee - 3-5 Year Contract (just a matter of time)
Beyond these four, there's far too much to play out in 2021, before more 'certainties' flower up.
Uncontracted Players - Talia, Fogarty, McAsey, Newchurch, Borlase, Murray, O'Connor, Gollant, Lynch, Seedsman, Crouch, Kelly, Murphy, Strachan.
Contracted Players - Himmelberg... Trade?
1) Mackay - Delisted (it's happening......)
2) Davis - Delisted
3) Tex - 1-Year Contract
4) Doedee - 3-5 Year Contract (just a matter of time)
Beyond these four, there's far too much to play out in 2021, before more 'certainties' flower up.
Uncontracted Players - Talia, Fogarty, McAsey, Newchurch, Borlase, Murray, O'Connor, Gollant, Lynch, Seedsman, Crouch, Kelly, Murphy, Strachan.
Contracted Players - Himmelberg... Trade?
One of Himmelberg and Fog will be gone.
Maybe both.
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Having 12 disposals, 6 of them from marks, is a very poor effort for an inside midfielder. Suggests he only had a maximum of 6 disposals from ground balls, hard balls or handball receives playing as one of our primary mids.
He'll need to double his output this year to be in consideration for retention
People keep forgetting Stengle as one of our departures.
Murray has replaced Gibbs, but we do not currently have anyone filling Stengle's vacancy.
Murray has replaced Gibbs, but we do not currently have anyone filling Stengle's vacancy.
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Inside Midfielder/Defender, he's more versatile than you give him credit for.
Do you have the T.O.G stats for the SANFL or know where they can be sourced?
All this off one ****ing SANFL game....
Lynch on a 1 year deal and sent to the rookie list makes a lot of sense. Seems to be winding down, 2022 probably his last season and it'd be nice if he finishes his career with us,
Mrouch is the interesting one - I don't see a lot of certain delistees, so we might have to look to move on some more experienced players. Our midfield seems to be working fine without him at present, with Sloane/Laird/Keays as the experienced bodies. Need to give an opportunity for guys like Berry/Schoenberg/Pedlar to develop, too. I'd probably take a higher pick for Mrouch if I could. Talk of giving him a 2/3 year deal maximum is not happening though, if he does re-sign it's gonna be on a four-year deal probably
Mrouch is the interesting one - I don't see a lot of certain delistees, so we might have to look to move on some more experienced players. Our midfield seems to be working fine without him at present, with Sloane/Laird/Keays as the experienced bodies. Need to give an opportunity for guys like Berry/Schoenberg/Pedlar to develop, too. I'd probably take a higher pick for Mrouch if I could. Talk of giving him a 2/3 year deal maximum is not happening though, if he does re-sign it's gonna be on a four-year deal probably
Heritier Lumumba, formerly known as Harry O'Brien, was a reasonable player at Collingwood.
Mark O'Connor at Geelong is also a reasonable player.
We can't keep all of Sloane, Laird and Crouch. All are too slow and none are great users of the ball and don't hurt the opposition. On top of that, Crouch is a poor decision maker, often setting up hospital passes for teammates, which leads to turnovers. Have a bad feeling we will give Crouch a 5 year deal though.
Does that mean we already have two vacancies? Actually, no dont worry about it. Murray took our vacancy didn't he. So we already have made one of the 3 compulsory changes. Think this year will be a three or 4 change year. Stengle and Mackay r defs. Davis will go if he doesn't pull the finger out. Strachan? Maybe a trade??
Murray is only contracted for this year, and effectively takes Gibbs' position on the list.
There is currently no replacement for Stengle. Assuming we don't make any selections at the mid-season draft, that would be one less vacancy we will need to create at the end of the year.
I think Mackay & Davis are certainties to depart, but both are on the rookie list. The only way that helps us meet the minimum 3 ND selections is if we move someone else (e.g. Lynch) to the rookie list in their place.
It's hard to see Strachan getting another contract, but stranger things have happened.
It's quite possible that Stengle, Mackay & Davis are our only departures. That would meet our ND requirement, if we then shuffle 2 players from the senior list to the rookie list.
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