He was just a bit more inaccurate, it was a very good season for a 21 year old KPF? (actually 20 until the final month)
his last season was incredible for a kid who was 19 for most of the year
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his last season was incredible for a kid who was 19 for most of the year
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Significantly. Not saying Cerra is bad; he's a great player, but Young is projecting to be something else entirely.
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He actually played better than last year for the most part - bar the most important stat (kicking straight). Yips are a concern, and his leading seemed to drop off toward the season's end, but some of his general play has been unreal. Another preseason and 5kgs on him and he should take the next step.
Treacy has been superb (and you're right, arguably the better player long-term). Perfect compliment to Amiss's guile, looking forward to watching them develop.
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It's really just his goal accuracy that makes it look like he hasn't improved.
75 shots at 48% this year (36 goals) vs 67 shots at 61% last year (41 goals).
Would have had 46 goals if he went at the same accuracy as last year, from one less games after getting concussed in the opening 5 minutes of that derby. And he missed some incredibly easy shots that you'd back him in to make most times.
Then the fact that he just turned 21. I don't think many Freo fans will be disappointed with his season at all. And not in anyway comparable to Cerra.
It's not really a discussion for me. If Amiss was on the Blues list right now and we had Cerra I wouldn't blink at doing the trade.
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He was pretty good, he finished top 3 or top5 in our bnf two years running as a 21 year old at the time of trade. He was also pretty good for Carlton last year. Injuries are making this seem much worse than it was.
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I'd trust us as far as I can throw us
Agreed. Recency bias is playing a huge role here.
Cerra was borderline AA squad last year and finished 4th in the B&F for a team which made a prelim.
He has had a horrid run this year, but is a gun when fit.
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What an utterly average player. Not bad by any means but very vanilla.
He is good, he was very bloody good last year, without injury he should've won their B&F, he drifted off with interruptions
Couldn't get a run at it this year
Us Freo fans are only happy because we snagged Amiss out of it
A disappointing pick 5.
His best year might be ''very good'', but with a top 5 draft pick you're hoping to nail a bona fide ''star''.
So not a terrible pick 5, but for me a disappointing pick 5.
His best year might be ''very good'', but with a top 5 draft pick you're hoping to nail a bona fide ''star''.
So not a terrible pick 5, but for me a disappointing pick 5.
Progress is rarely linear. Are you implying Amiss’ season would have been a success had he kicked 20 goals last year instead of 40?
36 is a great return for any 21 year old.
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For the Dockers? Sure. You'd be hoping for a greater return than 76 games.
But if he can get over the injuries that plagued his 2024 season you've got a 25 year old with plenty of footy left in him, and a decent chance to hit 250 games over the course of his career.
I reckon most clubs would be pretty happy with that sort of "disappointing" return from an early draft pick.
5 hamstrings in 12 months, but there's a decent chance he hits 250?
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"If he can get over the injuries that plagued his 2024 season".
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He's already half way there... Not un reasonable to think he can get to 250, given he is still relatively young.
Plenty of players have overcome soft tissue injuries.
A couple of points. I reckon Cerra is a pretty talented footballer but there is literally no sane person (and I mean nobody on this planet) who thinks he's a better player than Hayden Young. Also, Amiss statistically had a better season than 23 in pretty much all aspects except goal accuracy. His 2024 season wasn't all that bad.
Young definitely improved this year, but shit the bed in the final 2 games when the pressure was on. I think Freo fans really overrate him.
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Not really much between Young's '24 and Cerra's '23
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He was rated the best player in the league since like round 10 according to CD. It’s not just Freo fans.
Champion Data? Come on..
He wasn't even the best midfielder from your own team this year, let alone the whole league.
Worth taking into account that it was Young’s first year as a midfielder.
But honestly this whole Cerra thing is just recency bias. He was a good player for us, probably didn’t explode as much as expected, but his 2023 was very good.
I still wouldn’t pick him over Amiss or Young, but it’s far from a bust for Carlton. He’s a good player and will be a good player for you guys if he sorts out those hamstrings. Genuinely think it’s a win win
