Play Nice 47th President of the United States: Donald Trump - Part 20: If you want Capitalism, you got it

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USA - 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris (pt II)

Continued from Part 1 - https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2024-us-presidential-election-trump-vs-harris.1383317/

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USA - Kamala Harris Concedes. God Help America

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< - Trump 19 is back there.

 

[liz]

Exactly.

At least in America you get the choice not to vote, in Australia you have to pick someone, even if you don't like the candidates, at least outside of just doing a donkey vote via the classic drawing of a schlong on the form.

I think a lot of Aussies will be perplexed about ultimately voting for Albo or Dutton, same as Harris & Trump.

No one forces you to vote in Australia. They just require you to turn up to the polling station to cross your name off (or return a postal vote). You don’t even need to go to the effort of “the drawing of a schlong” if that requires a bit of effort.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

No one forces you to vote in Australia. They just require you to turn up to the polling station to cross your name off (or return a postal vote). You don’t even need to go to the effort of “the drawing of a schlong” if that requires a bit of effort.

Yep that's also true.

 

[Bloods86]

I think a lot of Aussies will be perplexed about ultimately voting for Albo or Dutton, same as Harris & Trump.

It becomes easier if they understand cause and effect of bad things that happen, and look at the track records of the parties (unfortunately closer these days).

At least here we can vote for someone else before preferencing Albo over Dutton (well, the parties), pity that isn't the case with Dems over a party of traitors. Not voting helps the worse outcome occur.

 

[Beerfish]

You know very well that Xtreme has no idea what's going on. Trump and/or Fox tells him what Trump is doing is <insert grandiose statement> and he simply repeats it.

And yet some people still don't have him on ignore or even respond to him..

 

[HirdsTheWord]

It becomes easier if they understand cause and effect of bad things that happen, and look at the track records of the parties (unfortunately closer these days).

At least here we can vote for someone else before preferencing Albo over Dutton (well, the parties), pity that isn't the case with Dems over a party of traitors. Not voting helps the worse outcome occur.

unfortunately, the far majority of people would not bother to look deeper than face value when ticking the box.

 

[Achy Blakey Heart]

Not sure, check the cricket thread, I deleted it I think.
Best to stick to the thread topic instead of obsessing over cricket banter mate.

As slimy as Trump

 

[RCAB]

i mean i obviously can't tell you what employees earn or what their visa split is as i don't work there but based on what google tells me the AVG tesla wage is pretty decent and seems to be pretty far above the avg american salary, and if a fair chunk of his workforce (60% total non-white, 35% of leadership non-white it would appear that regardless he is paying them pretty well?

nothing i have read alludes to the fact Elon is luring people in on these H1B visas, and then underpaying people en masse.

H1B visas are typically for skilled immigrants? Not the type of people who are putting batteries in phones in some sweatshop.

The fact that you can’t punctuate or write proper English when you post online, I reckon that’s reason enough for you to get deported.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

The fact that you can’t punctuate or write proper English when you post online, I reckon that’s reason enough for you to get deported.

is there any need for personal attacks?

it's a football forum guy...

 

[RCAB]

Yep... it's a fascist model. Conservatives who support Trump are no longer supporting their own ideology... because fascism is not the same as conservatism.

Nazism is not the point... fascism is the point. Whether the fascism takes hold and replaces democracy, and what the oligarchs do with their new popular fascism is still up for grabs.

Trump isn’t a full-on fascist like Hitler, but there’s certainly enough he’s espoused to suggest similarities. Hitler wasn’t fully fascist initially either, there was a lot of populist rhetoric used to mask his rise to power.

 

[Festerz]

Few subs on Reddit I follow have banned Twitter posts.

Be great if bigfooty followed suit.

Why?

Twitter is simply a medium, albeit owned by an self obsessed, power hungry, borderline psychopath who places his personal wealth way above values of honesty, truth, justice and commitment to a cohesive and equitable society. But such personalities have dominated the mass media market for centuries, even today.

While it's true that the content and misinformation bias of the twitter platform has shifted substantially since its acquisition by Musk, the same can be said of all large scale social and mainstream media platforms. And it's still relatively easy to filter out the crap by limiting those you follow and who follow you to respected individuals and organisations.

Twitter is still used by the vast majority of respected news outlets, journalists, scientists, environmental and social scientists, economists and other professional organisations as it represents the fastest way to broadcast and connect to links and summaries to reports, studies and opinions that have the capacity to change our life on this planet for good. Until there's a more equitable and more widely used platform available it still has a vital role to play.

I'm all in favour of banning, divisive, inflammatory, hateful or deliberately false content - not the medium upon which it's broadcast (edit: unless of course, the main purpose of that platform is to host and broadcast such content - which is not anywhere close to what 'X' is about, for now at least).

If the owner/moderators of BF or any other social media platform 'bans' twitter posts simply because of who owns it they would have missed the point and lost the war.

 

[RCAB]

HTW spending half a day arguing the technicality of him only using Nazi to mean 1940s Germany and definitely not the modern usage is peak HTW.

I had to read this twice, I still don't think I fully understand it.

 

[RCAB]

is there any need for personal attacks?

it's a football forum guy...

You’re supporting Trump, who likes to deport downtrodden people. At least my deportation policy would have some merit.


I'm not sure what the matter is with you, but we're on a political forum by the way, and you're talking about a football forum now. Context and nuance are not your strong suit either.

 

[Aussie in exile]

You’re supporting Trump, who likes to deport downtrodden people. At least my deportation policy would have some merit.


I'm not sure what the matter is with you, but we're on a political forum by the way, and you're talking about a football forum now. Context and nuance are not your strong suit either.

I think donny and his fans forget that his present wife worked in the US illegally when she was there on a tourist visa, so she should be deported under the new rules donny wants to bring in.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

As slimy as Trump

The trumpists are the corrupt racist slime and so are his supporters.

 

[Toump Ass]

Why?

Mainly because it's usually low effort, poor quality content. If I found Titus O'Reilly funny or cared what thought Rohan Connelly found pertinent to share with the universe, I'd log onto Twitter and look at it myself.

As far as news sources go, there's alternatives that aren't run by a fascist.

Edit: Dayne Swan the other one whose tweets here come up a lot. Guys a ****ing moron.

 

[BigTacoBandit]

I think donny and his fans forget that his present wife worked in the US illegally when she was there on a tourist visa, so she should be deported under the new rules donny wants to bring in.

And the "chain migrated" her parents in.

 

[RCAB]

I think donny and his fans forget that his present wife worked in the US illegally when she was there on a tourist visa, so she should be deported under the new rules donny wants to bring in.

Let's not forget that Trump's grandfather, skipped out on military duty and if he had entered the US today, he would have been turned back at the border and deported back to Germany.

 

[liz]

unfortunately, the far majority of people would not bother to look deeper than face value when ticking the box.

And then a country gets the government it deserves.

There are many weaknesses in the various models of democratic government around the world, but one is the failure of the population to properly engage.

We are both too hard and too soft on our elected officials. Too hard when we have unrealistic expectations on what they can fix in too short time frames, which results in them stopping trying to fix them over realistic time frames and instead pandering to the short term election cycle. And too soft on the behaviours that then arise from pandering to short term election cycles.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

First broken promise that he'd end the Ukraine war on day 1. What a clown.

 

[Aussie in exile]

Let's not forget that Trump's grandfather, skipped out on military duty and if he had entered the US today, he would have been turned back at the border and deported back to Germany.

Something else donny's fans don't want to discuss and also not a single member of the donny blood relatives has served in the US military

 

[Aussie in exile]

First broken promise that he'd end the Ukraine war on day 1. What a clown.

Probably going to increase military aid to Ukraine after them suppliers of military equipment to Ukraine reminded him that they contributed financially to his campaign fund

 

[ElectricG]

First broken promise that he'd end the Ukraine war on day 1. What a clown.

Dude he’s not the kind of president that follows through does things. It’s more like he says a thing or makes a gesture through executive order and we all clap like idiots at how the lefties have been owned and forget all about it the next day.

 

[TheSunGod]

If the earth were flat, cats would have pushed everything off the edge by now.

Flat Earth truth revealed,
Cats push mugs off the world’s edge—
Gravity’s betrayed.

My favourite cat Haiku though is about children -

Beware the small ones
They stroke the fur the wrong way
Abominations.

 

[faible]

I had to read this twice, I still don't think I fully understand it.

HTW is a poster on this forum.

 

[Bloods86]

Trump doesn't appreciate being given a Bible lesson in caring about strangers, being a good neighbour and supporting those in need. A GOP congressman has already called for the Bishop (a natural born citizen) to be deported.

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/donald-trump-begins-new-administration/live-coverage/267d7831fd7b44b89fb806f5a2bdf31e#/entry/23977000

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5098959-gop-member-wants-bishop-added-to-deportation-list-after-trump-prayer-service/?tbref=hp