F1 2025 - Previous Rounds

[nobbyiscool]

Still have Monaco to come this year

Monaco is still lying in wait for us...

It exists in a class of it's own though, you know exactly what you're getting with Monaco.

 

[Barrybran]

Well, that was a pretty uneventful race

 

[Cromulant]

Strange it’s Suzuka. Would’ve thought maybe some drama on turn 1. But Max played it brilliantly

These cars are so big now that once they amazingly all got through there it was all over.

 

[Bradesmaen]

 

[Simon_Nesbit]

McLaren lost that race three times through poor tactical decisions. Coincidentally, each "neutral decision" favoured Lando.

1. Off the line, Lando was more focused on beating Oscar than Max. If Lando goes straight, he runs the inside line into turn one and at the very least compromises Max's entry.
2. When they brought Oscar in (nominally to protect against Russell), the instruction to Norris should have been do opposite of Max. Max comes in, Lando goes long and gaps the field. The speed advantage was enough, they had some evidence the undercut was weak/minimal.
3. When Oscar was SO much faster than Lando, they should have switched - giving Oscar around 10 laps to go at Max. Lando called his strategy (save tyres for late challenge) - so let Oscar go, burn Max's tyres fighting and then either:
   1. Oscar wins (Lando's strategy unaffected, probably benefited by Max fighting Oscar or in dirty air)
   2. Oscar can't get past Max and gives the place back (Papaya Rules!)
   3. Oscar burns his tyres and drops back (10+ seconds to 4th). Maybe Lando's tyre offset then gives him the win!

 

[Shifty1]

Really impressed with Antonelli. Currently above both Ferraris in the standings.

 

[Aussie pie]

McLaren lost that race three times through poor tactical decisions. Coincidentally, each "neutral decision" favoured Lando.

1. Off the line, Lando was more focused on beating Oscar than Max. If Lando goes straight, he runs the inside line into turn one and at the very least compromises Max's entry.
2. When they brought Oscar in (nominally to protect against Russell), the instruction to Norris should have been do opposite of Max. Max comes in, Lando goes long and gaps the field. The speed advantage was enough, they had some evidence the undercut was weak/minimal.
3. When Oscar was SO much faster than Lando, they should have switched - giving Oscar around 10 laps to go at Max. Lando called his strategy (save tyres for late challenge) - so let Oscar go, burn Max's tyres fighting and then either:
   1. Oscar wins (Lando's strategy unaffected, probably benefited by Max fighting Oscar or in dirty air)
   2. Oscar can't get past Max and gives the place back (Papaya Rules!)
   3. Oscar burns his tyres and drops back (10+ seconds to 4th). Maybe Lando's tyre offset then gives him the win!

It’s a British team as much as they say it’s a “team” it’s not. We know which way it’ll go every time.

 

[Aussie pie]

Just caught up with the race “yawn.”
The thing I take out of this race is that I’d rather listen to 24 hrs of BT commentary than listen to JV one more second and I hate BT.

 

[gaskin]

Got home from the footy and put it on. I Managed to skip 2/3rds of the race and not miss anything. They should really add an extra DRS zone to at least give a chance of some overtakes.

 

[my name was taken]

Yup just watched and what a snorer. Maybe the rules have changed at McLaren because Lando has had the privilege of attacking when he had pace previously.

Although I would have preferred a legitimate overtake on Lando so he could keep 2nd if he didn't chase down Max. If they finish 1 and 2 end of the year in a close battle, a swap here and then beating max would be a 13 point swing in Oscars favour. You just know it would be discussed at the end even if it was in the 3rd race.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Really impressed with Antonelli. Currently above both Ferraris in the standings.

That's not hard, one of them is Hamilton so he was always going to be above him. Ferrari's Perez

 

[Vader]

That's not hard, one of them is Hamilton so he was always going to be above him. Ferrari's Perez

OK... so why do you think Hamilton is failing so badly at Ferrari? As I see it, there are 3 contributing factors:

• The Ferrari car simply isn't fast enough - it's clearly slower than McLaren & Mercedes, and also slower than a Verstappen driven Red Bull.
• He's taking time to adjust to the new car, which has completely different handling characteristics to the Mercedes he's been driving for the last 10+ years.
• He's getting old, no longer has the outright pace of the younger drivers, and probably should have retired rather than boosting his superannuation by switching to Ferrari.

All of these factors are clearly at play here - but which do you think is the dominant factor?

 

[Cromulant]

OK... so why do you think Hamilton is failing so badly at Ferrari? As I see it, there are 3 contributing factors:

• The Ferrari car simply isn't fast enough - it's clearly slower than McLaren & Mercedes, and also slower than a Verstappen driven Red Bull.
• He's taking time to adjust to the new car, which has completely different handling characteristics to the Mercedes he's been driving for the last 10+ years.
• He's getting old, no longer has the outright pace of the younger drivers, and probably should have retired rather than boosting his superannuation by switching to Ferrari.

All of these factors are clearly at play here - but which do you think is the dominant factor?

Personally, I think its equal parts all of them

 

[Jatz]

This generation of cars are a punish.

That's now 3 races in a row that the pole leader has won, without really much threat of being overtaken.

Qualifying is essentially now dictating who's won - while it should help, that shouldn't be the case.

The other thing I think has hurt is all these hours these guys now spend on simulators. We've managed to make F1 races boringly predictable.

 

[imadodgyumpire]

Take away mandatory pit stops and multiple use of tyre compounds, and things change.

 

[Not Important]

Did McLaren's Strategy Cost Them a Race Win at the Japanese Grand Prix? - Fastest Pitstop

McLaren finished second and third at the Japanese GP, but could they have used strategy to challenge Max verstappen?

fastestpitstop.net

 

[manureid]

Sainz fined $36000 AUD for needing to take a shit during the National Anthem. Dr even had to give him medication due to a stomach complaint but apparently the FIA would prefer you shat yourself on the grid.

 

[DamoESP]

Sainz fined $36000 AUD for needing to take a shit during the National Anthem. Dr even had to give him medication due to a stomach complaint but apparently the FIA would prefer you shat yourself on the grid.

 

[largebus]

OK... so why do you think Hamilton is failing so badly at Ferrari? As I see it, there are 3 contributing factors:

• The Ferrari car simply isn't fast enough - it's clearly slower than McLaren & Mercedes, and also slower than a Verstappen driven Red Bull.
• He's taking time to adjust to the new car, which has completely different handling characteristics to the Mercedes he's been driving for the last 10+ years.
• He's getting old, no longer has the outright pace of the younger drivers, and probably should have retired rather than boosting his superannuation by switching to Ferrari.

All of these factors are clearly at play here - but which do you think is the dominant factor?

Hamilton could've won every race so far and Brades would say how if he was actually a good driver he'd have 12 WDCs by now.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Hamilton could've won every race so far and Brades would say how if he was actually a good driver he'd have 12 WDCs by now.

Let's face it, other than the sprint in China, he's been nowhere in qualifying in races compared to his teammate. When hes had a competitive teammate (i.e someone who wins on his own without relying on Hamilton to gift him a race - aka bottas), he's struggled to beat them regularly. That's just a pure fact.

 

[imadodgyumpire]

Let's face it, other than the sprint in China, he's been nowhere in qualifying in races compared to his teammate. When hes had a competitive teammate (i.e someone who wins on his own without relying on Hamilton to gift him a race - aka bottas), he's struggled to beat them regularly. That's just a pure fact.

When did that happen?

 

[Skull Face]

OK... so why do you think Hamilton is failing so badly at Ferrari? As I see it, there are 3 contributing factors:

• The Ferrari car simply isn't fast enough - it's clearly slower than McLaren & Mercedes, and also slower than a Verstappen driven Red Bull.
• He's taking time to adjust to the new car, which has completely different handling characteristics to the Mercedes he's been driving for the last 10+ years.
• He's getting old, no longer has the outright pace of the younger drivers, and probably should have retired rather than boosting his superannuation by switching to Ferrari.

All of these factors are clearly at play here - but which do you think is the dominant factor?

I'm a stick my neck out there and suggest its because he isn't quite as good as people like to think he is, he has made a career out of having a #2 at his side with a car a second to the good of the field but still lost to a number of teammates.
How many drivers in the goat conversation have lost a h2h against 5 different drivers over the course of a season? Alonso, Button, Rosberg, Russell and based on what we have seen this season so far you can probably add Leclerc to that list.

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

Lewis has gone on longer than other drivers have chosen to though, he could have retired four years ago at the peak of his powers and you wouldn't have to justify his two seasons finishing behind Russell. He's going to be as competitive at Ferrari as Schumacher was at Mercedes.

 

[Cromulant]

Lewis has gone on longer than other drivers have chosen to though, he could have retired four years ago at the peak of his powers and you wouldn't have to justify his two seasons finishing behind Russell. He's going to be as competitive at Ferrari as Schumacher was at Mercedes.

I've got a theory on it.

He's not there to win a championship, he knows that stage of his is probably gone. He's driving there because he can do whatever the hell he likes, and it's a drivers dream

There were stories about Senna, that he was going to have 2 or 3 years with Williams and finish at Ferrari, but fate obviously intervened

 

[gaskin]

The money Ferrari are allegedly paying him I don't think Lewis particularly gives a toss about winning races.