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You realise we're taking money from them right? Not funding them to do more drilling.

Yeah, but they don't sponsor us for nothing. Big red logo over every jumper and on the sponsorship boards behind press conferences. They get a lot of visibility.

I always liked the way Roy & HG would broadcast sporting games by calling the teams by the product advertising logos on their jumpers.

Regardless of where you stand on the positives or negatives of the companies that sponsor your favourite teams, it's one of the crass elements of major sports when teams in the throes of excitement of winning a premiership in the next 5 minutes they're putting on the product placement baseball cap or whatever. The hilarious Hawthorn football club in the 1980's doing a victory lap and putting loaves of bread into the premiership cup.
 
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Yeah, but they don't sponsor us for nothing. Big red logo over every jumper and on the sponsorship boards behind press conferences. They get a lot of visibility.

I always liked the way Roy & HG would broadcast sporting games by calling the teams by the product advertising logos on their jumpers.

Regardless of where you stand on the positives or negatives of the companies that sponsor your favourite teams, it's one of the crass elements of major sports when teams in the throes of excitement of winning a premiership in the next 5 minutes they're putting on the product placement baseball cap or whatever. The hilarious Hawthorn football club in the 1980's doing a victory lap and putting loaves of bread into the premiership cup.
They got a lot of mileage recently out of the Wallabies being sponsored by Cadbury.

I mean even satire aside, given even a passing knowledge of Australian history leaving yourself open to the label "Choco" seems like bad marketing.
 

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I have bigger problems with our sponsorship from TAB than Woodside.

Also I just learned that Corporate Sports Australia is a sponsor. How are they allowed to sponsor an AFL club when they manage players?
I wish they would remove all betting adds, and stop betting companies from sponsoring clubs.

Not sure if that, or clubs being dependent on pokies is the bigger issue.
 
I wish they would remove all betting adds, and stop betting companies from sponsoring clubs.

Not sure if that, or clubs being dependent on pokies is the bigger issue.
Deal with the gambling ads and sponsorship first.

Pokies aren't normally front and centre of kids attention.
 
Are you talking track and field athlete? Or general athlete? Even if he becomes a 100/200m gold medallist, there would be a number of people that I doubt he gets anywhere near from golf, tennis, NBA, F1, soccer. Mailata in NFL. Greg Norman is worth US$400 million. Dwarfs what Usain Bolt would be worth.

Ben Simmons no. 1 at $60million pa

Dyson Daniels and Josh Giddey will be on a lot more very soon.

Oscar Piastri will no doubt push up. The demon (Alex) has had a big year.

I assume he means athletics. Track and field get peanuts compared to Sports like NBA, MLB, NFL, Soccer, golf, tennis etc.
 
So a recent article on afl.com.au discussed the list changes for season 2025 Looking at our list changes I love how many multiple positional players we have added while delisting players that mostly played one position.
Eg.
IN
Shai Bolton (trade, Richmond), Jaren Carr (No.63 draft pick, father-son), Quinton Narkle (SSP), Charlie Nicholls (No.34 draft pick), Murphy Reid (No.17 draft pick), Aiden Riddle (Rookie Draft)

OUT

Josh Corbett (retired), Tom Emmett (delisted), Ethan Hughes (delisted), Max Knobel (delisted), Sebit Kuek (delisted), Ethan Stanley (delisted), Matt Taberner (delisted), Conrad Williams (delisted)

I think the balance of our list looks way better and we've added some significant skill to our list in Bolton and Reid (Narkle's also pretty skilled) Early days but the training reports on all of draftees appear super promising too.

Plus it turns out we almost certainly would have drafted Reid if we'd kept pick 11 according to Cal Twomey who said we tried to move up offering our first and second picks to get Reid and not Berry like most thought including me. Our pick 11 turned into 14 which Richmond used on Jonty Faull (who we would have overlooked) so basically we got the trade most wanted in effect as we got Bolton and the player we would have taken if we had kept pick 11 for the 1st and third first rounder we owned plus a bonus of an early 3rd rounder from Richmond in the 2025 draft too.
 
So a recent article on afl.com.au discussed the list changes for season 2025 Looking at our list changes I love how many multiple positional players we have added while delisting players that mostly played one position.
Eg.
IN
Shai Bolton (trade, Richmond), Jaren Carr (No.63 draft pick, father-son), Quinton Narkle (SSP), Charlie Nicholls (No.34 draft pick), Murphy Reid (No.17 draft pick), Aiden Riddle (Rookie Draft)

OUT

Josh Corbett (retired), Tom Emmett (delisted), Ethan Hughes (delisted), Max Knobel (delisted), Sebit Kuek (delisted), Ethan Stanley (delisted), Matt Taberner (delisted), Conrad Williams (delisted)

I think the balance of our list looks way better and we've added some significant skill to our list in Bolton and Reid (Narkle's also pretty skilled) Early days but the training reports on all of draftees appear super promising too.

Plus it turns out we almost certainly would have drafted Reid if we'd kept pick 11 according to Cal Twomey who said we tried to move up offering our first and second picks to get Reid and not Berry like most thought including me. Our pick 11 turned into 14 which Richmond used on Jonty Faull (who we would have overlooked) so basically we got the trade most wanted in effect as we got Bolton and the player we would have taken if we had kept pick 11 for the 1st and third first rounder we owned plus a bonus of an early 3rd rounder from Richmond in the 2025 draft too.
I am with you on the multi positional players, and especially the talls Nicholls and Riddle. Assuming they develop well, we have increased depth on every line.

There also seems to be potential for Chapman and Draper to explore other roles.



Amazing!
 
Plus it turns out we almost certainly would have drafted Reid if we'd kept pick 11 according to Cal Twomey who said we tried to move up offering our first and second picks to get Reid and not Berry like most thought including me. Our pick 11 turned into 14 which Richmond used on Jonty Faull (who we would have overlooked) so basically we got the trade most wanted in effect as we got Bolton and the player we would have taken if we had kept pick 11 for the 1st and third first rounder we owned plus a bonus of an early 3rd rounder from Richmond in the 2025 draft too.
Not suggesting you are incorrect, but we’ll never know in all honesty. I reckon every club says this whenever they are in this situation. I can recall dozens of examples over the years. I can still remember SOS telling everyone after the 2018 superdraft that he would have taken Liam Stocker in the top 6 of that draft when they swapped future 1st with Adelaide to get him at pick 19.
“Couldn’t believe he fell to 19, absolute steal”

To the point where it’s become an oft ridiculed draft cliche from list managers around the league.
They would be all telling Twomey this kind of stuff after the draft too for some nice positive PR from afl.com.au after the draft. Everyone’s a winner on draft night!

If I recall correctly we said we would have taken Cooper Simpson with the pick 19 we traded to Collingwood last year too if we hadn’t done the trade.

Anyway I’m happy enough with Murphy Reid myself, his highlights look great but like every draftee, reserving any meaningful judgement until we see him in a few games at AFL level first.
 
Not suggesting you are incorrect, but we’ll never know in all honesty. I reckon every club says this whenever they are in this situation. I can recall dozens of examples over the years. I can still remember SOS telling everyone after the 2018 superdraft that he would have taken Liam Stocker in the top 6 of that draft when they swapped future 1st with Adelaide to get him at pick 19.
“Couldn’t believe he fell to 19, absolute steal”
I don't think he was lying about this so it's not a great example, they gave their future 1st (top 6) to get him


I agree with your thoughts though, we would definitely say this as a club in the position we are in, having not actually traded up


edit: Carlton actually had pick 1 in 2018 so the pick they gave up was ranked as the future pick 1 (worse than top 6 at the time), they definitely had Stocker very high
 

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I wonder if Brayshaw will be announced soon or if he's changed his mind. If he's signed on the club would have announced it by now.
Leonardo Dicaprio Enthusiasm GIF by Jordan Belfort

He's not leaving!!!!
 
Channel 10 said last week it will be done in early 2025 at the earliest. Whether that was just the club trying to protect a Christmas announcement.... we will know in about 48 hours.
Yeah I was convinced it was gonna be an Xmas day present but with that news and the Young news dropping a few days ago I’m not as certain
 
They got a lot of mileage recently out of the Wallabies being sponsored by Cadbury.

I mean even satire aside, given even a passing knowledge of Australian history leaving yourself open to the label "Choco" seems like bad marketing.

I don't get any of the references in this post. I rarely watch rugby so I take it Cadbury might be a sponsor but I'm not familiar with how "Choco" was used historically, other than it's the (probably unrelated to your whatever point you're making) nickname of a former footballer and coach, or how is it connected with mileage.

Edit: I see you bolded the Roy & HG part of my post so I guess that's who you're referring to with "they". I'll have to listen to that episode of "Bludging On the Blindside" titled 'Examination of Stoolage'.
 
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