USA 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris (pt II)

[Captivating]

I'm comfortable he meant a firing squad

So tell me. When has the person subject to execution by firing squad been allowed to have a rifle?

 

[JB1975]

Yeah k.

I'm unutterably shocked. People on web take issue with verbal imagery of woman and political opponent being stood in front of firing squad.

World has gorn mad.

 

[Satan]

He was upset with the microphone technicians as the Mike wasn’t loud enough for his liking. He’s looking tired and very very old.

A bad workman is a tool or something similar

 

[Crankyhawk]

I don't go on X, just read what is posted on here, but I do watch US TV and it did play what you just posted.

Do you even question why he would say that? What wars has she sent military to?

You don't think it was a message to his more extreme supporters?

You think it is okay for him to even say something like that?

Part of that is likely irresponsible/lazy mass media using the cropped version from x. The goal of media in the USA is ad revenue first and a full story is a distant second

 

[OneGreatClub]

So tell me. When has the person subject to execution by firing squad been allowed to have a rifle?

I love the contortions you people get up to.
How about this…contort this into Trump didn’t mean to have topless girls on his lap with Epstein.

 

[adogsfan5]

I'm unutterably shocked. People on web take issue with verbal imagery of woman and political opponent being stood in front of firing squad.

World has gorn mad.

I’m just going to leave it there. Not shocked that this is where it’s ended up.

 

[JB1975]

I’m just going to leave it there. Not shocked that this is where it’s ended up.

No, not shocking. People will try and defend anything nowadays.

 

[adogsfan5]

No, not shocking. People will try and defend anything nowadays.

Were all responsible for the information that’s posted on here. I am glad it was called out and agreed upon. Now we move onto the next made up nonsense when it arises.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Shooting people is fine, just don't butcher a video clip.

 

[Crankyhawk]

Agree which is why I am surprised by the uproar about Trump and so called 'misinformation'.

I seriously don't think that it was made more dangerous, they were words he has spoken and does so on many occasions, he knows what he is saying and for me is like a call to his supporters. Dog Whistling.

This I agree with and further it isn't misinformation as those were his words. Out of context? perhaps yes.

We also don’t know who created the cropped version. While it is likely done to make trump look more dangerous, if could also have been done by MAGA side in order to suck the democrats into getting all excited in order to point out misinformation and support the case of “both sides do it”

 

[Maggie5]

Agreed re voter fraud - which I have also called out.

The cropped video has created misinformation all over X. It also somewhat hit the mainstream news in that way. People are now using the shortered video to claim he’s calling for her execution or for people to shoot her. That is the misinformation I am talking about. It is how it was initially posted in this thread.

That’s the main point I’m trying to make. I can’t see how that is wrong or a problem.

I don't get why you don't respond to my full post, surely that is also relevant.

 

[adogsfan5]

We also don’t know who created the cropped version. While it is likely done to make trump look more dangerous, if could also have been done by MAGA side in order to suck the democrats into getting all excited in order to point out misinformation and support the case of “both sides do it”

How cooked is American politics that both of those options needs to be considered….

 

[Captivating]

You may be right

But the use of the term '' 9 guns pointed at your face '' is eerily similar to a firing squad detachment

Thats where the concern lies - why didnt he say 100 guns or an army etc

While he didnt specifically say his intent was quite clear

A firing squad traditionally has 6 shooters.

So only eerily similar to your biases

 

[Satan]

A firing squad traditionally has 6 shooters.

So only eerily similar to your biases

Or
A firing squad is normally composed of at least several soldiers, all of whom are usually instructed to fire simultaneously, thus preventing both disruption of the process by one member and identification of who fired the lethal shot

 

[adogsfan5]

I don't get why you don't respond to my full post, surely that is also relevant.

You want me to comment on him calling her a coward and him getting shot in the ear/calling for more restraint in the usage of violent language?

A) what does the coward comment have to do what with I’m saying? I’ve already said I think it’s ridiculous that he’s calling anyone else dumb and stupid. You can throw coward in there too.

B) I’ve already said that he has worded it POORLY. Yes it’s not the right language to be using.

What else do you want?

 

[Maggie5]

We also don’t know who created the cropped version. While it is likely done to make trump look more dangerous, if could also have been done by MAGA side in order to suck the democrats into getting all excited in order to point out misinformation and support the case of “both sides do it”

I don't get with the discussion purely around the video. The content and the words spoken are to me more important.

They are not factual (no evidence she is a war hawk), whether cropped/edited or not what Trump said incites violence.

This is purely to incite his followers because she dared be on the Jan 6 committee.

Carrying on about an edited video and not be concerned about the words he spoke is hypocritical.

I can't see any Cheney supporters going out to shoot Trump however it but I can see Trump supporters taking action against Cheney.

When did words not matter any more?

 

[Captivating]

The Dems are not even trying to hide their agenda anymore.

 

[Crankyhawk]

I don't get with the discussion purely around the video. The content and the words spoken are to me more important.

They are not factual (no evidence she is a war hawk), whether cropped/edited or not what Trump said incites violence.

This is purely to incite his followers because she dared be on the Jan 6 committee.

Carrying on about an edited video and not be concerned about the words he spoke is hypocritical.

I can't see any Cheney supporters going out to shoot Trump however it but I can see Trump supporters taking action against Cheney.

When did words not matter any more?

To trump supporters the words ceased to matter a long time ago. It’s all on the emotion of upsetting the elites.

 

[Satan]

To trump supporters the words ceased to matter a long time ago. It’s all on the emotion of upsetting the elites.

And owning the libz

 

[RandB]

The Dems are not even trying to hide their agenda anymore.

Agenda? You mean winning the election?

No, don't think they're hiding that at all.

 

[Maggie5]

To trump supporters the words ceased to matter a long time ago. It’s all on the emotion of upsetting the elites.

Which is why I don't get posters who are making a big deal about a shortened video and ignore the content.

Those words were violent and needed to be shown and the only context missing is of the extended version of the interview which should not be the focus of the discussion.

Trump apologists!

 

[swingdog]

The Dems are not even trying to hide their agenda anymore.

Ragnarok?

 

[carltonchelsea]

Odd or not odd, just take a look at how it’s been used over X and in the mainstream media. I know people will say meh, who cares, because of who it is.
People actually now think he’s calling for her to be executed / to be killed. It’s pretty cooked.

Here is a perfect example, two articles right on top of each other. One makes sense, the other is ridiculous.

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It was a threat, if you don’t understand that your a idi..!
Simple mate, build your bridge upside down if you’d like, but don’t be too surprised when no driver takes a chance on your engineering skillz!

 

[Maggie5]

So tell me. When has the person subject to execution by firing squad been allowed to have a rifle?

See Trump can't even get that right.

He has lost his... .

 

[BigTacoBandit]

I think he’s worded it poorly (as I’ve stated already), but I get what he is trying to say. It’s a hypothetical in that she wouldn’t like being on that front line with guns pointed at her. But she’s happy to send others there whilst she’s in her comfortable office.
Watching the full video basically confirms that.
I HATE him calling others stupid or dumb. Pot/kettle.

Again, context is everything, as has been stated multiple times on this forum.

Agree he's worded it poorly and meaning could go either way but you are forgetting the context that Trump has previously called for Cheney to face a military tribunal.

Bad things used to happen to people found guilty at military tribunals.