Analysis 2024 National Draft

Who should Carlton take at Pick 3 if available?


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Wilson is a player. Moir never been convinced on but has started to show some signs athletically of getting back to the 'freak' he was talked about before his draft year. Speed and agility improved considerably over the season.
I'd like to see Wilson given a go as sub.
Probably not going to happen but far too often this year it's been Hewitt, Kennedy or even Owies as sub and that takes too much away from the team balance.
 
I'd like to see Wilson given a go as sub.
Probably not going to happen but far too often this year it's been Hewitt, Kennedy or even Owies as sub and that takes too much away from the team balance.
Wilson would get split in half right now. He and Binns need to add a lot of weight on before they get a run at AFL level imo
 
Wilson would get split in half right now. He and Binns need to add a lot of weight on before they get a run at AFL level imo
So we just keep playing the same unskilled players that won't run and handball and we keep getting smashed anyway.
Not to mention taking years off our captain.
 

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Referred to as a "crumbing specialist" I'd wager he would be our best small forward next season. Motlop, Owies, Durdin, Cottrell are woeful
Motlop isn’t woeful imo. He suffered some injury set backs but I think he will be a player for us.

Problem is we seem to keep playing talls and smalls only (well that’s how it feels) in the forward line and the smalls if they don’t kick a goal, render themselves useless when it comes to other factors we need from them. Owies, Motlop and Fogarty had 26 disposals between them. I like Fog with his pressure but 3 smalls doing not too much when it comes to play really sets us back.
 
Motlop isn’t woeful imo. He suffered some injury set backs but I think he will be a player for us.

Problem is we seem to keep playing talls and smalls only (well that’s how it feels) in the forward line and the smalls if they don’t kick a goal, render themselves useless when it comes to other factors we need from them. Owies, Motlop and Fogarty had 26 disposals between them. I like Fog with his pressure but 3 smalls doing not too much when it comes to play really sets us back.
Motlop is a low production, slow goal sneak. We could do much better imo. He's basically Owies 2.0 they just do their damage in a slightly different way.

There's 3 small forwards I'd take in this draft that I'd back to be better than either within 24 months
 
Motlop is a low production, slow goal sneak. We could do much better imo. He's basically Owies 2.0 they just do their damage in a slightly different way.

There's 3 small forwards I'd take in this draft that I'd back to be better than either within 24 months
Well in the meantime we remove Owies.

Let’s just draft Joe Berry and trade for Miles Bergman and Conor Stone and I’ll be happy
 
Well in the meantime we remove Owies.

Let’s just draft Joe Berry and trade for Miles Bergman and Conor Stone and I’ll be happy
I don't think Bergman is going anywhere, he had an interview where he said he'll always have the pull of going home to VIC but is happy with his mates at Port and Landsberger just made it up after that
 
I don't think Bergman is going anywhere, he had an interview where he said he'll always have the pull of going home to VIC but is happy with his mates at Port and Landsberger just made it up after that
Maybe. But we should be asking the question. He’s young and is now finding his feet. Would love him in our midfield in 2025
 
Adding those names and the Campos won't get us number 17, they'll just make us fall a little softer.
You don’t know that for sure now do you. 5 weeks ago we were premiership favourites.

Add Doc, TDK, JSOS, Williams and the names I’ve mentioned makes us a much stronger side than we have seen this year
 
Motlop is a low production, slow goal sneak. We could do much better imo. He's basically Owies 2.0 they just do their damage in a slightly different way.

There's 3 small forwards I'd take in this draft that I'd back to be better than either within 24 months

There nothing alike.


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There nothing alike.


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Both treacle paced for small forwards, poor below their knees, terrible overhead and find minimal amount of footy per game.

Motlop may kick bananas and snaps in contrast to Owies being a set shot specialist but they are incredibly alike as players. Martin puts them all to shame whenever he gets on the park.
 
Both treacle paced for small forwards, poor below their knees, terrible overhead and find minimal amount of footy per game.

Motlop may kick bananas and snaps in contrast to Owies being a set shot specialist but they are incredibly alike as players. Martin puts them all to shame whenever he gets on the park.

Nothing alike.

Motlop is more an agility based player. Not straight line speed. He is our one small forward who has shown he can take half chances because he can be clean, smart and has an instinct for where the goals are. He is not at his best because injury has made a mess of his season.

He is coming back from injury like many others.
Cerra - poor coming back from injury
Cottrell - poor coming back from injury

Notice a pattern.

You did the same thing with Finn O’Sullivan in draft because he hasn’t bounced back to top form after long injury layoff.


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Nothing alike.

Motlop is more an agility based player. Not straight line speed. He is our one small forward who has shown he can take half chances because he can be clean, smart and has an instinct for where the goals are. He is not at his best because injury has made a mess of his season.

He is coming back from injury like many others.
Cerra - poor coming back from injury
Cottrell - poor coming back from injury

Notice a pattern.

You did the same thing with Finn O’Sullivan in draft because he hasn’t bounced back to top form after long injury layoff.


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Motlop, Cerra and Cottrell you can argue about injury but I've never been convinced on Motlop from the get go and have been fairly vocal about that for a while. Other than bobbing up for a goal every now and then he does nothing for the team in terms of up the field output, pressure and bringing the ball to ground in the Aeriel contest.

And the FOS bit is funny to me, he injured his thumb and somehow lost all of his lower body athleticism? Doesn't compute to me but each to their own.
 
There’s your bias/agenda.

He’s shown plenty. Watch his footy in the back half of last year.
Had a horror run of injuries this year, and he’s only 20.
Has he ever shown high levels of production up the field or ability in the air? Even when put into the midfield at VFL level he couldn't get near the ball.

He's a goal sneak, hasn't shown anything more than that since he started - hence the comparison to Owies
 
Has he ever shown high levels of production up the field or ability in the air? Even when put into the midfield at VFL level he couldn't get near the ball.

He's a goal sneak, hasn't shown anything more than that since he started - hence the comparison to Owies

For gods sake, he’s only young and he didn’t come to us a natural endurance runner.

Motlop clearly needs to build fitness so he can contribute more. It would have been a focus since he’s been at the club. But guess what, he’s been injured.

He has shown some good signs but needs time to prove whether he’s good enough.

Owies is not as clean and can’t convert half chances.
I think of owies as a pop up sprinkler. You don’t know he’s there, then pops up in the forward 50, takes a mark, kicks a goal then disappears. He’s not much of a crumber like Motlop.


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