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LukeParkerno1 said:
Be one of the great races that one. It will take a WR to win that event.
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Of the top 10 times Regan has 4 and Kaylee has 6 of them. The final is the 4th night in Paris and will be first event for both of them.
 
RussellEbertHandball said:
Of the top 10 times Regan has 4 and Kaylee has 6 of them. The final is the 4th night in Paris and will be first event for both of them.
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It’s why I’ve been saying I don’t love her doing the IM much rather her win the backstroke double as priority
 

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danielnajdek said:
How’d the 200m Free Final go. Assuming it was today.
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My bad I fcked up yesterday.

You were correct in picking up the ticket in the tweet from the French guy I posted.

I had both the SF and Final nights pages opened up from SwimSwam and I thought only a maximum of 4 finals were on per night, I had already listed 4 finals results, and Ledecky's SF and Final times were almost identical. I said it was the SF when in fact, night 3 of both US trials and Paris has 5 finals including the women's 200m Free.

Ledecky swam a 1.55.25 in the SF and a 1.55.22 in the final.

If McIntosh swims a 1.53 like at the Canadian Trials time then Ledecky might not medal in Paris given Titmus and MOC are so far out in front.

Plus there is Hong Konger Sioban Haughey who has done a couple of 1.54s this year and won silver behind Titmus in Tokyo, who might also stop Ledecky picking up a medal.

Shit just checked the Tokyo results and Ledecky finished 5th and in 2023 world champs she didn't even swim the 200m, just the 4x200m relay. There she had the 2nd fastest leg of swimmers with a flying start. Titmus swam the anchor leg, not lead off like Tokyo, and was almost 2 seconds faster than Ledecky and Oz broke their own world record from Birmingham Comm games, by almost 2 seconds.

Anyway these were the results of 200m Free from night 3 of US trials.

swimswam.com

2024 U.S. Olympic Trials: Day 3 Finals Live Recap

Lilly King eyes a berth on her third straight Olympic team in the women's 100 breast tonight with the home Indianapolis crowd fully behind her.
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  1. Katie Ledecky (GSC-FL), 1:55.22
  2. Claire Weinstein (SAND), 1:56.18
  3. Paige Madden (NYAC), 1:56.36
  4. Erin Gemmell (NCAP), 1:56.75
  5. Anna Peplowski (ISC), 1:57.04
  6. Alex Shackell (CSC-IN), 1:57.05
  7. Simone Manuel (SUN), 1:57.13
  8. Katie Grimes (SAND), 1:57.33
Katie Ledecky would not be denied.

After Claire Weinstein made a move on the third 50 of the women’s 200 free, pulling nearly dead even with Ledecky, the greatest female swimmer we’ve ever seen responded by blazing down the final length in 29.87 to win comfortably.

Ledecky touched in 1:55.22, three one-hundredths faster than last night and a quarter of a second shy of the season-best 1:54.97 she established at the Pro Swim in San Antonio.

Weinstein wasn’t the only one pushing Ledecky through the 150, as Paige Madden, who qualified alongside Ledecky earlier in the meet in the 400 free, was right there with 50 meters to go as well.

The lactic acid started to catch up to Weinstein and Madden coming home, but they held tough, with Weinstein doing just enough to touch 2nd in 1:56.18 to qualify for her first Olympic team. Weinstein clocked in at 1:55.86 in the semis, and overall has responded well after the wheels fell off during the second half of her 400 free prelim during the first session of the competition.

Madden matched the personal best she set in the semis to place 3rd in 1:56.36, while Erin Gemmell moved up from 6th at the 100 to place 4th in 1:56.75, securing a spot on her first Olympic team.
 
The French trials are also on. Nothing great first two days but on day 3 in men's 100m Free there was;
  1. Maxime Grousset (CS Clichy 92) – 47.33

So with US trials on and only to SF stage a few hours ago, the top 5 rankings for 2024 are

1 ZHANLE PAN CHN WR 46.80 02/11
2 JACK ALEXY USA 47.08 06/18
3 CHRIS GUILIANO USA 47.25 06/18
4 MAXIME GROUSSET FRA 47.33 06/18
5 CAELEB DRESSEL USA 47.53 06/18

Chalmers will have to make sure he hasn't got a crook back and really pull something out to medal in Paris.
 
RussellEbertHandball said:
The French trials are also on. Nothing great first two days but on day 3 in men's 100m Free there was;
  1. Maxime Grousset (CS Clichy 92) – 47.33

So with US trials on and only to SF stage a few hours ago, the top 5 rankings for 2024 are

1 ZHANLE PAN CHN WR 46.80 02/11
2 JACK ALEXY USA 47.08 06/18
3 CHRIS GUILIANO USA 47.25 06/18
4 MAXIME GROUSSET FRA 47.33 06/18
5 CAELEB DRESSEL USA 47.53 06/18

Chalmers will have to make sure he hasn't got a crook back and really pull something out to medal in Paris.
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Popovici is still around too, his form hasn't been crash hot but the European Champs are on right now and he did a 47.90 in the Heats.

www.swimmingworldmagazine.com

European Championships: David Popovici Fires Off 47.90 100 Free Prelim

David Popovici posted 47.90 in the 100 free prelims on day two of the pool programme at the European Aquatics Championships Belgrade 2024.
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Be interesting to see how he goes come the Olympics, certainly with his age there's no reason he can't get back down in to the 46's.
 
Kram said:
Under 47 without a suit :fire: :eekv1:
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Its happened 6 times since the suits were banned. I looked at this the other day when Chalmers swam in our trials. I set the FINA rankings search from 1st Jan 2011.

3 times by Pan since September last year, inc twice this year, twice by Popovici in 2022 but he seems to have fallen off the pace, and Dressel did it at 2019 World champs to beat Chalmers and almost did it again in Tokyo to beat Chalmers and that's why I put number 7 rank up. Chalmers did a 47.08 both times for silvers.

Top 2 times were WRs as Brazilian Cielo's suit WR was a 46.91. Don't think the US trials finals tomorrow our time will be a WR but they might just break 47 sec.


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faible said:
Popovici is still around too, his form hasn't been crash hot but the European Champs are on right now and he did a 47.90 in the Heats.

www.swimmingworldmagazine.com

European Championships: David Popovici Fires Off 47.90 100 Free Prelim

David Popovici posted 47.90 in the 100 free prelims on day two of the pool programme at the European Aquatics Championships Belgrade 2024.
www.swimmingworldmagazine.com www.swimmingworldmagazine.com

Be interesting to see how he goes come the Olympics, certainly with his age there's no reason he can't get back down in to the 46's.
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Thanks for that, made me dig around for the SF results from this morning and he improved it marginally to 47.82.

They had a triple dead heat for the 5th fastest time in the semis. That's rare. Happened to Phelps in Rio in his last individual swim in 100m Fly. 3 blokes got silver. His two long time rivals Chad La Clos and Laszlo Cseh, just couldn't beat him in their last race together, but a young Singaporean, Schooling could.

  1. David Popovici (ROU) — 47.82
  2. Andrej Barna (SRB) — 48.04
  3. Nandor Nemeth (HUN) — 48.05
  4. Kristof Milak (HUN) — 48.26
  5. Danas Rapsys (LTU) / Shane Ryan (IRL) / Jere Hribar (CRO) — 48.39
 
RussellEbertHandball said:
Its happened 6 times since the suits were banned. I looked at this the other day when Chalmers swam in our trials. I set the FINA rankings search from 1st Jan 2011.

3 times by Pan since September last year, inc twice this year, twice by Popovici in 2022 but he seems to have fallen off the pace, and Dressel did it at 2019 World champs to beat Chalmers and almost did it again in Tokyo to beat Chalmers and that's why I put number 7 rank up. Chalmers did a 47.08 both times for silvers.

Top 2 times were WRs as Brazilian Cielo's suit WR was a 46.91. Don't think the US trials finals tomorrow our time will be a WR but they might just break 47 sec.


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Impressive consistency from Pan, Popovici has really never recaptured that form of that couple of months in 2022 has he.
 
faible said:
Impressive consistency from Pan, Popovici has really never recaptured that form of that couple of months in 2022 has he.
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Pan also did a 47.06 in September.
 

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LukeParkerno1 said:
Still can’t believe they haven’t eliminated all these suit records it was a bit farcical at the time
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Shows just how much of an advantage they gave swimmers.

To think 2009 200m WR holder German Paul Biedermann swam 2 seconds faster than Thorpe ever did, and is still about 1 second faster than Popovic's best 2 times and France's Yannick Angel did to win in London in 2012, and everyone else is 2 seconds or more slower than him since 2010, when Biedermann was a good, but not great swimmer at international level, is proof positive of how big the advantage was. That WR could stand for another decade decades.
 
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RussellEbertHandball said:
Shows just how much of an advantage they gave swimmers.

To think 2009 200m WR holder German Paul Biedermann swam 2 seconds faster than Thorpe ever did, and is still about 1 second faster than Popovic's best 2 times and France's Yannick Angel did to win in London in 2012, and everyone else is 2 seconds or more slower than him since 2010, when Biedermann was a good, but not great swimmer at international level, is proof positive of how bid the advantage was. That WR could stand for another decade.
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Not even sure that record will ever be beaten the 50m one I have doubts on too.
 
LukeParkerno1 said:
Not even sure that record will ever be beaten the 50m one I have doubts on too.
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Yeah thinking about it and some of the doping advantage female track and field athletes got in the 80's who still hold WRs, I have adjusted my post and struck out - another decade - and replaced it with decades. The suit was not really any different to a PED advantage, just legal for a short period.
 
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Oz top 4
1 O'CALLAGHAN, MO 20 STPET 52.57 52.33Q
r:+0.65 25.61 52.33 (26.72)
2 JACK, SHAYNA 25 STPET 52.65 52.72Q
r:+0.70 25.44 52.72 (27.28)
3 HARRIS, MEG 22 RACKL 52.52 52.97Q
r:+0.71 25.46 52.97 (27.51)
4 CAMPBELL, BRONT 30 CRUIZ 52.95 53.10Q
r:+0.68 25.43 53.10 (27.67)
 
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LukeParkerno1 said:
Mollie's race to lose that race, she should all things being equal win that race. However we all said the same before the Cate Campbell flop in the 100m a few Games ago
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2023-24 Rankings

1 SIOBHAN HAUGHEY HKG 52.02 10/08
2 MARRIT STEENBERGEN NED 52.26 02/16
3 MOLLIE O'CALLAGHAN AUS 52.27 04/17
4 MEG HARRIS AUS 52.52 06/14
5 KATE DOUGLASS USA 52.56 06/19
 
RussellEbertHandball said:
2023-24 Rankings

1 SIOBHAN HAUGHEY HKG 52.02 10/08
2 MARRIT STEENBERGEN NED 52.26 02/16
3 MOLLIE O'CALLAGHAN AUS 52.27 04/17
4 MEG HARRIS AUS 52.52 06/14
5 KATE DOUGLASS USA 52.56 06/19
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Completely forgot the HK swimmer, always do don't know why, you'd expect no one outside those top 3 can win. I haven't seen much of the second one can't comment there, assuming a young Dutch swimmer and it is good for Dutch swimming to have a few coming through
 
Youngest U.S. Olympic male swimmers in the last 35 years (OlyMADMen):
Michael Phelps (15), 2000
Aaron Peirsol (17), 2000
Thomas Heilman (17), 2024

 
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