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Which realistically available player SHOULD we pick at #4?

  • Sid Draper

  • Jagga Smith

  • Harvey Langford

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Chief Crow said:
Information from Jay Clarke

The Kangaroos could shuffle back from pick two in a swap with Adelaide where Tauru could still be available if North elects to take the backman over another jet midfielder.
Carlton has pick three and are strongly considering O’Sullivan – who is Sam Walsh’s cousin, as well as South Australian midfielder Sid Draper, and Oakleigh ball magnet Jagga Smith.
Adelaide at pick four could overlook the local talent Draper if he was still available for big-bodied 190cm onballer Harvey Langford to help give the Crows some midfield size and strength.
The Crows overlooked local talent Brad Ebert for champion midfielder Patrick Dangerfield amid significant backlash from fans in 2007 and a similar situation could unfold this week with the 180cm Draper from South Adelaide

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Well, a lot of the phrasing used are from the HS article of 4-5 days ago .....and saying our midfield needs size shows Jays ignorance

I know Jay, he's a light-weight .....a snippet from here, a snippet from there .....and you have an article

Some American University Leader lost their job over such things
 
Chief Crow said:
Note to self, don't post links with information as it will get shot down by randoms 👍
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No, keep posting like many others post what journalists are saying.

I was just saying that these rumours had been previously mentioned on this thread, but so many conflicting stories so all we really know is there is no clear draft order & clubs are playing ducks & drakes.
 
Chief Crow said:
Information from Jay Clarke

The Kangaroos could shuffle back from pick two in a swap with Adelaide where Tauru could still be available if North elects to take the backman over another jet midfielder.
Carlton has pick three and are strongly considering O’Sullivan – who is Sam Walsh’s cousin, as well as South Australian midfielder Sid Draper, and Oakleigh ball magnet Jagga Smith.
Adelaide at pick four could overlook the local talent Draper if he was still available for big-bodied 190cm onballer Harvey Langford to help give the Crows some midfield size and strength.
The Crows overlooked local talent Brad Ebert for champion midfielder Patrick Dangerfield amid significant backlash from fans in 2007 and a similar situation could unfold this week with the 180cm Draper from South Adelaide

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"The crows overlooked ebert for dangerfield".

As you would. The gap was massive. That's not the same for draper and langford.
 
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Jeffcrowe said:
When they do re drafts in years to come of this draft it wouldn’t surprise me if this kid is in the top 5



You also wonder if there would be much more fanfare if he was regularly having 20 possession games in Coates league instead of 30 possession games in WAFL U18s

And if he comes off we had him and TT playing forward and ruck and swapping we wouldn’t really need a regular ruck

Shame we don’t have flexibility to draft him or Dodson
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Yeah this guy looks the goods. Highly skilled from what I've seen.
 
The way I see the potential trade up to pick 2 is that Hamish has a clear top 3 (impossible to know what order we rank them in, but Lalor, Draper and Smith are the players) in “tier 1” of this draft, and now that Carlton are seemingly preferring Draper over FOS, we are worried that our top 3 ranked picks are going to be drafted before us, leaving us with someone we rank a tier lower (possibly Langford).

Clearly Richmond are taking Lalor. Do we fear North drafting Draper or Smith? No, I don’t think that is happening, BUT, if we don’t trade up to Pick 2 to take one of Smith or Draper, Richmond or another club absolutely will (and its very likely that the club trading up to 2 takes Smith), leaving Carlton to take Draper, and us feeling like we’re in a whole tier down.


With that in mind, I’m fine with trading up. Not hugely fussed on whether we take Draper or Smith once we’ve done the trade, but it needs to be one of them assuming Lalor goes at 1 (Ashcroft bid aside).

So yep, use the 3 future 3rds, get a future 2nd off a lowly rated club, and package that with pick 4. Fine with it. Much rather that than “settling” for a player that is not as good a list fit / not as good a prospect in general.

If the landscape changes and the word in clubland is that one of Draper or Smith will slide through to pick 4 without us trading up, then we stand firm. But if it’s a choice between settling for Langford at 4 or trading up for Smith or Draper at 2, I’m in camp trade up.

I’m sure some would argue “why not just take FOS over Langford”. It just seems to me like there is absolutely no link between us and FOS. Not 100% sure why, but sometimes certain players just aren’t on recruiters wish lists, and rightly or wrongly it seems like that’s the case with Hamish and FOS to me.
 

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Chief Crow said:
Information from Jay Clarke

The Kangaroos could shuffle back from pick two in a swap with Adelaide where Tauru could still be available if North elects to take the backman over another jet midfielder.
Carlton has pick three and are strongly considering O’Sullivan – who is Sam Walsh’s cousin, as well as South Australian midfielder Sid Draper, and Oakleigh ball magnet Jagga Smith.
Adelaide at pick four could overlook the local talent Draper if he was still available for big-bodied 190cm onballer Harvey Langford to help give the Crows some midfield size and strength.
The Crows overlooked local talent Brad Ebert for champion midfielder Patrick Dangerfield amid significant backlash from fans in 2007 and a similar situation could unfold this week with the 180cm Draper from South Adelaide

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Trading up for Langford would be a choice
 
Anything can happen... Last year I'm pretty sure nobody had Curtin sliding to us... He was supposed to be a top 3 pick. And if you asked anyone if we could get Curtin, they'd fall off their chair.

If i were a north fan, id be pretty annoyed that somehow everyone knew who they were picking 2 months out which appears to have weakened their bargaining position.

My current position is we will draft Draper if he's available given he is from SA. Same factor as to why we selected TT at 1 effectively. However i probably would rather Smith.
 
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hippyhippy said:
Anything can happen... Last year I'm pretty sure nobody had Curtin sliding to us... He was supposed to be a top 3 pick. And if you asked anyone if we could get Curtin, they'd fall off their chair.

If i were a north fan, id be pretty annoyed that somehow everyone knew who they were picking 2 months out which appears to have weakened their bargaining position.

My current position is we will draft Draper if he's available given he is from SA. Same factor as to why we selected TT at 1 effectively. However i probably would rather Smith.
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We were always taking Thilthorpe in 2020 even if he was from Antartica - clearly the best talent after JUH.

I really want Smith now and if not Smith, then Langford. Draper will be a quality AFL player and maybe a top 10 player in the competition but I think Smith and Langford have stronger claims
 
Mostyn said:
I really don't want FOS.

That's the only pick I feel nervous about - lack of progress this year seems worrying.

Smith or Draper for mine.
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Pretty sure in that interview Mutineer posted FOS referred to his brothers wanting to join him in Melbourne next year... I'm not sure if anyone else picked up on that or I misheard it but for me that means Adelaide has zero interest, or he's told them he has zero interest in moving to Adelaide.

McClure announcing Lalor is going pick 1 means he's definitely not going pick 1 ;)

So based on these two things and everything else that's been posted in the media here's my phantom top 10:

1. RICH Jagga
2. ADEL Lalor
3. CARL FOS
4. NM Tauru
5. BRIS Ashcroft*
6. MELB Langford
7. RICH Smillie
8. StK Draper
9. GC Lombard*
10. StK Travaglia
11. MELB Bo Allan
12. RICH Armstrong
 
hippyhippy said:
Anything can happen... Last year I'm pretty sure nobody had Curtin sliding to us... He was supposed to be a top 3 pick. And if you asked anyone if we could get Curtin, they'd fall off their chair.

If i were a north fan, id be pretty annoyed that somehow everyone knew who they were picking 2 months out which appears to have weakened their bargaining position.

My current position is we will draft Draper if he's available given he is from SA. Same factor as to why we selected TT at 1 effectively. However i probably would rather Smith.
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If both Smith and Draper were available- Draper for me

I just think we need that explosive burst out of a stoppage - that teams can’t defend

We get that that from Rankine and we look so much more dangerous when he can burst from a stoppage, but we need more than Izak with this attribute

Draper feels like the right type of mid we need for our mix


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Jeffcrowe said:
When they do re drafts in years to come of this draft it wouldn’t surprise me if this kid is in the top 5



You also wonder if there would be much more fanfare if he was regularly having 20 possession games in Coates league instead of 30 possession games in WAFL U18s

And if he comes off we had him and TT playing forward and ruck and swapping we wouldn’t really need a regular ruck

Shame we don’t have flexibility to draft him or Dodson
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Cue geelong picking him, their WA talent scouting is top notch.
 
Draft Bored said:
Pretty sure in that interview Mutineer posted FOS referred to his brothers wanting to join him in Melbourne next year... I'm not sure if anyone else picked up on that or I misheard it but for me that means Adelaide has zero interest, or he's told them he has zero interest in moving to Adelaide.

McClure announcing Lalor is going pick 1 means he's definitely not going pick 1 ;)

So based on these two things and everything else that's been posted in the media here's my phantom top 10:

1. RICH Jagga
2. ADEL Lalor
3. CARL FOS
4. NM Tauru
5. BRIS Ashcroft*
6. MELB Langford
7. RICH Smillie
8. StK Draper
9. GC Lombard*
10. StK Travaglia
11. MELB Bo Allan
12. RICH Armstrong
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I did notice that and also thought some nice subtle draft tampering “hopefully get to spend time with them” or similar saying he wants to stay in Victoria.
 

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