Ultimate Glory 2023 Trade speculation and Shinbeggars discussion

[Simon Crawshay]

Not the greatest example of an KP early burner. In the first two seasons, Kozi was rotting in Box Hill with some pretty regular injuries. DGB has done far better than that and been first-team worthy at least.

Sure - the third season shares in Kozi's favour, but then he also has never hit those peaks since. Still time for DGB to develop into what he needs to be.

Agreed he needs to show more - but tbh, the coaching staff keep moving him around, so it's pretty hard for him to develop consistently when his position isn't even locked down. I just hope we can give him a clear set position for him to develop in, rather than this chop and change stuff.

Final thing I'll say is to quote Littlejohn, development is not a linear path. Dips, slumps and explosions are all part of youth development - hoping the latter clicks for DGB

For what it’s worth the Hawks AFL website has him listed as a Key Forward now.

Suggests that where they see his future lying?

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Wake up Sleepy Mark, it's your time to shine

 

[Bugs1977]

So is Tom Jones. It's not unusual.

 

[Kuuz]

For what it’s worth the Hawks AFL website has him listed as a Key Forward now.

Suggests that where they see his future lying?

Well based on Brocky and Kozi leaving, at the very least, there are plenty of spots to be filled

Fingers crossed he follows Kozi's 3rd season lead, and explodes up forward for us in 2024 I do love how he flies at the ball - it's near kamikaze like at times. He's also a beautiful field kick. Just needs a little more poise.

 

[almuz]

If WCE trade down I feel like it can only be North trading up.

If Eagles trade down with us, Dees or any other team then surely North just stay put with 2 and 3 to pick Curtin and another.

This is assuming North pick a KPD they desperately need and not two more mids

 

[Bugs1977]

For pick 6 I'd take him.

Yep and I'd even send them back pick 30 for there trouble

 

[butlers hawks]

Not really Hawks related directly, however it might effect the Kosi deal.

My mate works at the AFL and messaged me yesterday saying that the Clayton Oliver

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stuff has some legs, Richmond and Swans have both lodged interest.

Today he messaged me saying he keeps hearing Tom Lynch to Melbourne although he wasnt sure if it had anything to do with Clarry.

To me this all sounds too big to not be out there already and with Riewoldt leaving, trading Tom Lynch off as well would be hard to sell to the fans but it might mean that they are more desperate to bring in Kosi than originally thought

 

[HairyO]

Not really Hawks related directly, however it might effect the Kosi deal.

My mate works at the AFL and messaged me yesterday saying that the Clayton Oliver stuff has some legs, Richmond and Swans have both lodged interest.

Today he messaged me saying he keeps hearing Tom Lynch to Melbourne although he wasnt sure if it had anything to do with Clarry.

To me this all sounds too big to not be out there already and with Riewoldt leaving, trading Tom Lynch off as well would be hard to sell to the fans but it might mean that they are more desperate to bring in Kosi than originally thought

Tigers are screwed if thats true.

 

[Lickmesocks]

Not really Hawks related directly, however it might effect the Kosi deal.

My mate works at the AFL and messaged me yesterday saying that the Clayton Oliver stuff has some legs, Richmond and Swans have both lodged interest.

Today he messaged me saying he keeps hearing Tom Lynch to Melbourne although he wasnt sure if it had anything to do with Clarry.

To me this all sounds too big to not be out there already and with Riewoldt leaving, trading Tom Lynch off as well would be hard to sell to the fans but it might mean that they are more desperate to bring in Kosi than originally thought

Richmond have a huge contract on their hands who is injury prone and maybe got another 2-3 years max.

Melbourne have 2-3 years left to win one and missing a key forward target.

Lynch would be a risk but one you take if you are Melbourne and he is seen as the missing piece.

Tigers if they can get a decent return and clear the 1.2 from their books would be crazy to not explore further.

 

[lyger]

Not really Hawks related directly, however it might effect the Kosi deal.

My mate works at the AFL and messaged me yesterday saying that the Clayton Oliver stuff has some legs, Richmond and Swans have both lodged interest.

Today he messaged me saying he keeps hearing Tom Lynch to Melbourne although he wasnt sure if it had anything to do with Clarry.

To me this all sounds too big to not be out there already and with Riewoldt leaving, trading Tom Lynch off as well would be hard to sell to the fans but it might mean that they are more desperate to bring in Kosi than originally thought

Thanks for sharing. On the surface hard to fathom trading out Lynch even if you are offered significant overs.

 

[TylerDurden]

 

[FB19]

Thanks for sharing. On the surface hard to fathom trading out Lynch even if you are offered significant overs.

Hard to fathom really? Dees need a forward tigers cooked with no draft capital. It’s totally obvious. I raised the idea weeks ago on here.

 

[Iceman!]

Hopefully he is right but i do not trust a word coming out of his mouth unless it is Collingwood related.

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

Barrett still begging to wish Reid into North existence.

I hope WCE stick fat and draft Reid.

 

[MasterSamurai]

I just can't see how he fits the lions tbh. They have enough tall timber up frwd as it is. So, it's between us and crows but I hope we get him as he , Lewis and Denver could make for a very interesting forward line.

 

[FB19]

After listening to a bit of trade radio and seeing the vomit that Cooney poses as a “mega trade” after having a twirl of the glass barbie, I thought I’d have a crack at a mega trade free of charge for Trade Radio

Essendon offer Gresham first round compo contract
St Kilda get pick 13

St Kilda trade pick 32 for Shiel

St Kilda trade pick 12 and 13 to Suns for pick 4 and future 2nd

Essendon trade pick 28, 32 and F3 to Suns for 12

WCE trade pick 34 to Hawks for Brockman

Hawks trade 30, 34 and F3 to Suns for Chol and 13

Which to sum it all up would mean:

So WCE give 34, Get Brockman
St Kilda give 12,13 Get 4 and F2
Essendon give Shiel, 28, 31, F3 for Pick 12,
Hawks give Brockman, 30 and F3 for 13 and Chol
Suns give 4, F2 and Chol, Get 28,30,31,34, F3 (Haw), F3 (ESS)

Suns give up 2048 in points and get back 2432

Hawks get their man in Chol, get a mid range R1 pick and get adequate compo for Brockman, thoughts?

Always love when people have a go and outcomes seem what teams would want, but several flaws unfortunately. First trade wouldn’t be allowed it is media nonsense. Second suns already have 8 scoring picks they won’t trade pick 4 until draft night to avoid the list spots restriction. Eagles don’t give up 39 for brockman let alone 34 it most likely will be 53.

 

[Big Hotdog]

Richmond need to pay fair price

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[Bugs1977]

I love Jay but he shouldn't float that unless he knows 100%. We've all been hurt too much the last couple of years with people going the early crow. Case in point recently with Ben McKay.

 

[butlers hawks]

Trade Radio is back and as strong as always*



*has always been weak

 

[Faithful Hawk]

Trade Radio is back and as strong as always*



*has always been weak

Phil Davis won’t last the week with way he answering with ‘Common Sense’.

 

[KeeperLeaguer]

Clark isn't wrong, we're balls-deep in the Chol deal. He's open but now leaning towards us. Things may change but we're discussing the trade atm.

 

[Platten44]

That’s from an article that has way too many errors for a professional journalist.

 

[tl92]

Let’s hope with the Chol interest we can also get front position to trade for pick 4.

 

[Tuck In]

You actually turned it on?

I foolishly did a number of years back and had had Rheem and Bertocchi ham ear worms for days. Never again, lesson learned

 

[HawksILove]

Clark isn't wrong, we're balls-deep in the Chol deal. He's open but now leaning towards us. Things may change but we're discussing the trade atm.

Chol and Pick 4 be nice