Ultimate Glory 2023 Trade speculation and Shinbeggars discussion

[GinniAndTonic]

We all know it is happening, it is just a question of how, and for what ?

Any news on if Brocky is staying?

 

[H00t]

Maybe he just knows when to use his energy.
A lot of people thought Stevie J was lazy.
Players like this are the difference in September

Stevie J was crazy talented. Ryan while talented isn’t the sort to be able to keep rocking up at the start of the year overweight like the west coast board have suggested.

Plus now his injury further decreasing his value.

I’m not saying don’t get him. But only get him for very little. Players can find it very difficult to come back from long layoffs.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I like the idea of Ryan and his young family coming across to the Hawks and being there for Brockman’s family.

Those two in the same forward line would be pretty special.

 

[hawkinoz]

Maybe he just knows when to use his energy.
A lot of people thought Stevie J was lazy.
Players like this are the difference in September

Some champions have this down to an art, saw this recently on Messi on how he spends the start of every game, walking "aimlessly"

 

[Topiary]

Any news on if Brocky is staying?

Not sure, but I doubt it. Just remember, Brocky was going home this year, next year or the year after. The good news is, he wants a deal that can hopefully advantage or have some efficacy for the HFC. That was not the case at the end of last year. Circumstances between Brocky and the HFC are much, much better.

Now Brocky may be a better player than Ryan will be for the HFC. Brocky may not even play for the WCE. It is all subjective. Only time will tell. Because of the relationship with Sam, at least we have something of a chance.

 

[The Spirit of Cricket]

targeting Ryan as a replacement for Brockman if he wants to go home makes sense but isn't that enticing

but getting Ryan over to team up with Brockman is pretty exciting. Butler/Watson added to that and you've got a serious small fwd setup

 

[TylerDurden]

I like the idea of Ryan and his young family coming across to the Hawks and being their for Brockman’s family.

Those two in the same forward line would be pretty special.

With Wiz.

 

[eaglevision]

You seem to be lost.

Getting a Hawks opinion on a Hawks trade? How do you figure that?

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Getting a Hawks opinion on a Hawks trade? How do you figure that?

No thanks.

 

[The German Hunter]

A hypothetical question TheFourPillars
If we re signed Brocky and somehow traded for Ryan, do you think we would still draft the Wiz?

I hope we can get Caleb Windsor in the draft. I’ve seen him and his brother both play and they just ooze class. Unfortunately we never grabbed Kai as a rookie. I was sure he would have put in a great season for The Stangers and got selected in the mid season but his ankles have failed him and he hasn’t even played a game this season.
Caleb has the drive and professionalism while Kai had the material flair.
Anyway, I believe we need to really draft and trade for our front half this season.
Dursma for me thanks MM

 

[NICE1]

Whilst we are building a good core group of players, we are still severely lacking match winners. Richmond's list is no longer what it was, but they still have match winners - this allowed them to do what they did to us on the weekend.

If Brockman reaches his potential, he becomes a genuine match winner. The type of player that can turn a game on its head very quickly. He also plays a position that is a clear deficiency with respect to our list profile. I can only hope we find a way to keep him, but if we can't, we need to make replacing him x 2 a priority in the upcoming draft or trade period.

Understandably, we like to go for known quantites, the safe bet so to speak. Over the next 24 months, I'd like to see some bold high risk/high reward recruiting where possible, to try and get some elite talent through the door at a more economical price.

 

[The Kipster]

Whilst we are building a good core group of players, we are still severely lacking match winners. Richmond's list is no longer what it was, but they still have match winners - this allowed them to do what they did to us on the weekend.

If Brockman reaches his potential, he becomes a genuine match winner. The type of player that can turn a game on its head very quickly. He also plays a position that is a clear deficiency with respect to our list profile. I can only hope we find a way to keep him, but if we can't, we need to make replacing him x 2 a priority in the upcoming draft or trade period.

Understandably, we like to go for known quantites, the safe bet so to speak. Over the next 24 months, I'd like to see some bold high risk/high reward recruiting where possible, to try and get some elite talent through the door at a more economical price.

I agree and if we review the messages from the club for the last couple of years, it will happen.

 

[MasterSamurai]

Ryan for our second round pick from the dogs this year. İt's fair.

 

[MJA33]

Liam Ryan and Brockman family hanging out tonight, as per Instagram.

I noticed this as well. Maybe instead of Brocky going home we are looking to bring Ryan in to pair with him and mentor. Great idea.

 

[Hawk the Talk]

I like the idea of Ryan and his young family coming across to the Hawks and being there for Brockman’s family.

Those two in the same forward line would be pretty special.

If that is the plan, could it mean that the Wizard isn’t in our plans at pick 3?

 

[chopflop]

If that is the plan, could it mean that the Wizard isn’t in our plans at pick 3?

Colby

 

[TallyHawk]

Underestimate Gresham at your peril.

He is the type of player that doesn’t prosper under Ross Lyon.


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[grumbleguts]

But he’s not though. He’s a really great guy off the field who just also happens to be a competitive beast who likes riling up the opposition every now and again. People say the same about Sicily. I’m sure we’d all love him in our colours (though I’d only want him on the cheap which won’t happen).

The only reason I'd want him in our colours is because he wouldn't see it coming from behind. Free shot.

 

[tl92]

If that is the plan, could it mean that the Wizard isn’t in our plans at pick 3?

given how many small forwards we are linked to (Liam Ryan, Zac Fisher, Kai Lohmann), I reckon Watson still on the cards. Seems like an area they want to bolster significantly.

 

[The Jet From Poowong]

given how many small forwards we are linked to (Liam Ryan, Zac Fisher, Kai Lohmann), I reckon Watson still on the cards. Seems like an area they want to bolster significantly.

So what does this mean for Chad moving forward considering there is also Butler and O’Sullivan yet to debut. And Breust only has a further 12 months

 

[Blackhawk42]

Liam Ryan and Brockman family hanging out tonight, as per Instagram.

Talking about playing TOGETHER at Hawthorn next year?

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

If that is the plan, could it mean that the Wizard isn’t in our plans at pick 3?

I’d still take him. He’s electric.

We’d have an extremely exciting forward half if Ryan and Wizard were added, on top of Brockman.

 

[chopflop]

What does Jack salvagni cost?

Could allow us to play one ruck!

 

[Billyc]

DGB may part of a Ryan trade

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

DGB may part of a Ryan trade

You couldn’t really rule anything out at this stage. Going to be an interesting trade period.